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RE: Masters, what about domination is most fullfilling ... - 6/19/2009 1:41:56 PM   
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I aksed the same question...her theory is that while men dominate out of insecurity, women dominate out of anger. Of course, this topic could go so deep one could do a dissertation on it...


Wow so her contention is that Domination comes from a negative place.

I am not going to judge your friend however I can see where she sees so, the Frame Model for how she sees Domination must have come from that kind of paradigm.

I believe that there do exist women who Dominate out of anger and struggle to find internal acceptance out of an external power dynamic.

I can also see that there are men who Dominate simply to feel they have control over something feeling insecure over the amount of control they can maintain on the outside world.

However there are those who surrender out of necessity and the Dominance that is exuded upon them usually comes from the submissive need, one could question if that is in fact any kind of dominance at all however it would be precieved as real to those who partisipate knowingly or unknowingly.

I would offer the question of where the desire to Dominate comes from how Anger and Insecurity lead someone to desire Control over another being rather than take it internally?

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RE: Masters, what about domination is most fullfilling ... - 6/19/2009 2:42:01 PM   
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I asked Master your question and all he said was "Control"

He likes knowing that he is in control of someone else.

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RE: Masters, what about domination is most fullfilling ... - 6/20/2009 5:51:53 AM   
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I love seeing how passionate she is about pleasing me, even when it involves doing something difficult or embarassing or painful. I love seeing her improve herself, improving her diet for example, under my guidance.

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RE: Masters, what about domination is most fullfilling ... - 6/20/2009 9:26:00 AM   
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ORIGINAL: SteelofUtah

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ORIGINAL: Goddess2002

I aksed the same question...her theory is that while men dominate out of insecurity, women dominate out of anger. Of course, this topic could go so deep one could do a dissertation on it...


Wow so her contention is that Domination comes from a negative place....


I was wondering something similar; would your friend see a "normal" relationship as the only healthy and balanced one?

I would guess not necessarily.
I would guess (and it's just a guess) that she'd see dominance as a sort of coping mechanism.
Some coping mechanisms are healthier than others (like drinking excessively, say).

This is not to say that I agree with your friend, Goddess2002, but I do like this kind of stuff. Thanks for sharing it.

Some might say it's mental masturbation of a sort (and another sort of coping mechanism, perhaps - maybe one in which we get busy explaining away stuff to neutralize what we fear?), ; but what's wrong with masturbation?

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...I would offer the question of where the desire to Dominate comes from how Anger and Insecurity lead someone to desire Control over another being rather than take it internally?....

Well, lets see - the standard script would be that males want to control or own (or punish) mommy....maybe because mommy was less available or attentive to them when they needed her. For women, I dunno. Something about taking the wind out of pop's sails, rendering him more human, less aloof and powerful, maybe.

I mean - just to throw some more guesses out there, while I'm in the business.

Goddess's friend might have a whole different angle on it.


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