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AlchemicMelody -> RE: "Serving" (6/27/2009 6:22:43 PM)

To do what my Domme/Mistress requires of me. To make things easier and better for Her and thus make us both happy. To show through actions how much I care. That's what it means to me. Whether it be through sexual actions, through things like housework, or even something as simple as a smile. 




OwnedbyShayne -> RE: "Serving" (6/27/2009 11:03:44 PM)

Serving can mean any one thing to each different slave/sub or otherwise named. To each His own I guess, but its more than that. Its about what your Dom/Domme expects from you and fufilling that expectation to the fullest. I can't tell what serving means to any of you - because I'm not inside your head, or with you while you do serve...but for me its making my Daddy as pleased as I can. If He tells me to do something- I do it...no questions asked, no hesitation. Its trusting your Dom/Domme and showing them that you respect them and their authority over you. Serving can include anything from gagging, body worshiping or whatever else your Dom/Domme is into sexually...to real-life "serving" like sitting down and watching a scary movie, or listeing to your favorite songs and dancing to them. Serving is just giving your Dom/Domme in whatever they want because thats what we do...what we enjoy. Whatever the moment, whatever the day...serving your Dom/Domme is something that should be special to the both of you, something that you both enjoy.




ranja -> RE: "Serving" (6/30/2009 1:57:03 AM)

serving is simply being of use




TreasureKY -> RE: "Serving" (6/30/2009 8:27:48 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Firebirdseeking

What does "serving" mean to you?  my dominant and I were discussing the use and meaning of this term....


Re-posting a portion of a comment I made in a thread I started three years ago, "On Service"...

... it seems that the concept of service usually gets stuck around the idea that it relates only to performing duties that provide for (or having responsibilities that are related to) either the comfort or pleasure of a dominant.

... Beyond these common ideas of service there is one type that may be universally understood, but I believe is often forgotten or at least not spoken of frequently. The service that I’m referring to is the kind of service that one thinks about a Knight giving his king... it is fealty.  The desire to be in the presence of someone who embodies the essence of all that you hold dear in humanity.  To be on bended knee (or knees) pledging all that you are in adoration.  If you look up “fealty” in a thesaurus, you get the synonyms of allegiance, adherence, ardor, constancy, dedication, deference, devotion, duty, faithfulness, fidelity, homage, honor, loyalty, obedience, obligation, and piety.  To me, those words describe the ultimate service... the ultimate submission... the ultimate turn-on.




agirl -> RE: "Serving" (7/1/2009 4:58:30 AM)

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ORIGINAL: TreasureKY

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ORIGINAL: Firebirdseeking

What does "serving" mean to you?  my dominant and I were discussing the use and meaning of this term....


Re-posting a portion of a comment I made in a thread I started three years ago, "On Service"...

... it seems that the concept of service usually gets stuck around the idea that it relates only to performing duties that provide for (or having responsibilities that are related to) either the comfort or pleasure of a dominant.

... Beyond these common ideas of service there is one type that may be universally understood, but I believe is often forgotten or at least not spoken of frequently. The service that I’m referring to is the kind of service that one thinks about a Knight giving his king... it is fealty.  The desire to be in the presence of someone who embodies the essence of all that you hold dear in humanity.  To be on bended knee (or knees) pledging all that you are in adoration.  If you look up “fealty” in a thesaurus, you get the synonyms of allegiance, adherence, ardor, constancy, dedication, deference, devotion, duty, faithfulness, fidelity, homage, honor, loyalty, obedience, obligation, and piety.  To me, those words describe the ultimate service... the ultimate submission... the ultimate turn-on.



That's closer to any idea of *service* that I might have.

I know it's pleasant to do *nice* things for people you care about but I feel LESS compulsion to *serve* in the most common ways expressed, for my Owner.

It's not the same for everyone, that's obvious......but I've never had much of a drive to *look after* him. It's actually an effort to pay attention to what he may or may not want because if he wants something he asks for it. I *serve* people that I'm responsible for........but I'm *in service* to him.

The difference, for me, is that the comfort and well-being of people that I am responsible for is MY responsibility, and the comfort and well-being of my Owner is HIS responsibility.

I may not leap up to get him a drink, or offer to do things that I might do for people that rely on me ........for precisely that reason. But, he wouldn't be in any doubt about the fact that I would *walk hot coals* for him. He isn't in any doubt that I would do my utmost in many areas that would simply cause most people to walk away.

He *serves* me........but I am*in service* to him.

He wouldn't *walk hot coals* for me and I'd never expect him to.

agirl










CaringandReal -> RE: "Serving" (7/1/2009 5:26:10 AM)


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ORIGINAL: vasha

to take care of her wants and desires before my own


I like your definition. The "before my own" part gets at the heart of service, for me. It's harder to do this than it looks!




CaringandReal -> RE: "Serving" (7/1/2009 5:40:31 AM)


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ORIGINAL: leadership527

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ORIGINAL: catize
I think it is just as important to accept the realities of emotional limitations.  If, as the dominant partner, you know that a certain command would push your partner to say ‘no’ out of a sense of self preservation, isn’t that ‘no’  serving as well as preserving the relationship?  If your command would negatively affect the partner’s self esteem, affect how he/she views you as well as the dynamic, is that worth the risk? 


[sm=threadhijack.gif] TO ME, it is not worth the risk. I've made it quite plain that I would not sacrifice my marriage let alone my wife herself on the alter of some BDSM terminology. But there are more answers here than simply in or out of scope. What I am actually doing is rewiring her value system so that such commands would not cause the emotional harm and therefor not contain the risk. Clearly, I need to be very cautious about unintended consequences related to that effort. Just as clearly, I'm going to get a ration of shit for posting that.



Who is going to give you the shit? Your Carol? :p

From the sub perspective, I see nothing wrong with rewiring, particularly by someone you trust and didn't just meet online yesterday. I've experienced it and am none the worse for wear...I don't think. Hmm, how would you know you are worse for wear afer such an experience? You'd be "wired," I expect, to think it was great. Hmmmmm. But I can still work, pay bills, buy groceries, feed the cat (the most important), so I'm probably Ok. ;)

At any rate, thanks to this post I've now got that oracular song by Styx repeating endlessly through my head:

"My heart is human
My blood is boiling
My brain IBM"

Domo Arigato! :/




CallaFirestormBW -> RE: "Serving" (7/1/2009 12:26:58 PM)

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ORIGINAL: daddysprop

your definition of service would be our definition of proactive service. my Master strictly forbids proactive service as it requires presumption, and he also feels that it can be a subtle way for someone to exert control.


It's amazing how different households can be. In our household, I cherish our servants who are able and willing to provide "proactive service". Admittedly, it isn't something we encourage right away, since it really requires knowing the free members -very- well, in order to be able to anticipate their needs... and, overall, not a lot of the people we've worked with over the years have the knack of being both proactive and non-intrusive in their service. I like -subtle-, near-invisible, seamless service, and someone who is going to be providing proactive service had better know me pretty well to be able to sense what I might want. There are some things that are common-sense... like picking up my clothing when I am too tired to put it where it belongs myself. There are other things that are person-related (and, frankly, provide some of the biggest challenges of a multi-free-member household), like the fact that, when it's scorching outside, I like either kombucha with -no- ice or a soda with... but SR hates anything carbonated when it's hot out and won't put -ice- in anything... and she'd rather have a cup of lukewarm Earl Grey than a cold drink any day.

On the other hand, for me, I adore the servant who is able to excel at having -just- the right thing in -just- the right place at -just- the right time... when I didn't ask for it, and, sometimes, when I didn't even know what I needed/wanted myself. We've had two of those in the 12 years I've been with the House, and it is a bonus beyond words. I concur, though, that it often indicates someone with a propensity towards leadership. Both of the servants we had who excelled at this went on to become head-servants and manage staff, although, to this day, they still drop a knee or curtsey when they come by the house, and are as impeccably obedient as they ever were, so I don't necessarily think that taking initiative means being less inclined to yield in servitude.

Dame Calla




softness -> RE: "Serving" (7/5/2009 12:42:44 PM)

Serving?
Performing duties ... which duties rather depends on the context of the situation *winks*

I am a service kind of girl ... I like to fetch, carry, cook for, clean for coddle and generally run around for the people I care about .. and its would feel wrong to not be doing that for my Dominants.

I have come across people who confuse my service giving to being a skivvy for all comers ... they usually do not make this mistake twice. If I am in service to an event or a venue then I am still Sir's submissive and so deserve the respect due to that position.

I take pride in giving attentive, loving, and pleasing service to those whom I serve. I take pride in finding ways to make my service smoother, less intrusive and as intuitive as I can ... and I take great joy in it being appreciated




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