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Prinsexx -> Vietnam or Thetford? (6/25/2009 11:57:16 PM)

I was texting Stella, like we do. It was late and I was at the end of the text and wanted to say, text number one:~ helicopters down by the river...must be a search down by the river
and text two: at least it drowns out the whine of mosquitoes its like Thetford.

Now of course that's not what I intended to text. Being facetious and ironic I wanted to text its like Vietnam BUT my predictive text offered me the choice between Vietrnam and Thetford.

Now all but the politically dead surely know where and what Vietnam is? And Thetford by the way is rural Thetford in Norfolk Englan and is traditionally thought of as the royal residence of Boudica, Queen of the Iceni. The Iceni were a Celtic tribe living in Norfolk and parts of Cambridgeshire. Archaeological evidence suggests that Thetford was an important tribal centre during the late Iron Age and early Roman period. Noting much has happened there since then I don’t think apart from celebrations of the Autumnal Eqyinox (much quieter than Stonehenge).

By a simple press of a key I could have sent the wrong text, given the wrong impression, made a wrong choice. You have to admit it's a polarity of intellenet text is the choice between Nietnam and Thetford.


I'm at a crossroads right now big time. Do I chose to go into relationship in this direction or that? But then life is like that and you might say bdsm choices are no different. Except to me they are. They balance of a knife's edges. Do I accept the xollar? Do I ask for limits (and numb out my submission)? Do I spend time abroad for a week or so in what at the moment would be a long Distance Relationship. (I yearn to get out of this stuck in rut England feeling in three years time when my youngsters are all old enough to be self suddicient.


Or do I go for a ciffee up the road with a man I know is is going to nore me within a few eels and I will release myself? Shall I was for a beloved friend to see if he will have me back and we can play once every 4 weeks. He and I are only an hours drive apart.


So my questions are:
Has your bdsm ever offerred you a choice? A sliding door? A Vietnam versus Thetford?  Thetford? Did you make the right choice? Do you always make the right choice? Did you make a wrong choice and what were the consequences?



IronBear -> RE: Vietnam or Thetford? (6/26/2009 1:13:57 AM)

G'day Prinsexx,

Vietnam or Thetford ehh ? Oh the choppers and mossies could be either, but for memory unless you can smell napalm, the odds are you are listing to and looking at Thetford. Great info about the early Celt settlements there, matches what I have read and been told too..



Fitznicely -> RE: Vietnam or Thetford? (6/26/2009 2:27:15 AM)

Predictive text will give you "slave" as the first option if you try typing "plate".

I would love to be in the head of whoever thought "slave" was going to be used more often than "plate"...



Whenready -> RE: Vietnam or Thetford? (6/26/2009 2:38:56 AM)

Quote: So my questions are:
Has your bdsm ever offerred you a choice? A sliding door? A Vietnam versus Thetford? Thetford? Did you make the right choice? Do you always make the right choice? Did you make a wrong choice and what were the consequences?

Isn't it always a choice? Every day, every decision. Isn't this life rather than bdsm?

And sure, some of My choices were right; others were wrong. The consequences of right were wonderful; of wrong, not os great until I acknowledged and corrected them.

Oh, if you do choose thetford, take some paint. You can always watch it dry.... (Sorry - well - a bit...) And thats unfair really given the helicopters and other US air forces in the area. Hang on thetford IS just vietnam, but cooler...



CallaFirestormBW -> RE: Vietnam or Thetford? (6/26/2009 5:35:24 AM)

quote:

Has your bdsm ever offerred you a choice? A sliding door? A Vietnam versus Thetford? Thetford? Did you make the right choice? Do you always make the right choice? Did you make a wrong choice and what were the consequences?


Life is nothing -but- choices. Even for the most abjectly kept individual, the decision to wake in the morning and move through the day is a choice... sometimes a more profound choice than what many consider a "major decision". Sometimes, too, the choice isn't an 'either/or' choice. Sometimes, exploring options without immediately committing to any of the available options provides valuable insight, allowing one to maximize the benefits and ameliorate some of the risks of more than one option at once.

Nobody makes the right choice every time, and I've made my share of wrong choices. Most of the time, the consequences have been simply the need to go back to 'square one' and step out again on the other road -- it set my progress back a bit, but in the end, I learned from the experience and moved forward, and life progressed at pace, with only the occasional bobble in the road. On several occasions, however, my bad judgment actually nearly cost me my life, and -those- were real "sit up and take notice and get your crap together" moments. I am pleased to say that, 22 years after my last really, truly -stupid- choice, I haven't repeated any of those really nasty lessons, and I have made good enough choices since not to end up in a similar pickle over the last 2 decades.

Most of my poor choices came from trying to be something that I wasn't, or deny something that I was... basically, being less than completely honest with -myself-. A few more came out of a genuine desire to try to do something that I really wasn't sure I could do. The choice gave me the chance to -try-, and for the things that didn't work out, I feel good that I now -know- that I'm not suited to XYZ (as an example, I paid a substantial amount of money to attend cooking school... only to discover that I -hate- "bulk", restaurant cooking. I'm only happy cooking when its' a small group, and I get to both share the meal and watch the people I cook for enjoy it)... and I'm also glad that I at least -tried-, plus I came out of the experience with a phenomenal knowledge of the French kitchen and patisserie. -Bonus-!

Where relationships are concerned, sometimes the hardest thing to sort out is when we're not in a position to be -in- a relationship. We, as a culture, are so conditioned to the idea that people come in pairs or groups that we ignore opportunities to be by ourselves and learn who we are in a manner that will enable us to -flourish- when we -are- in a relationship. It seems to me that, with all the choices you listed, you didn't give yourself an option to choose "none of the above", and just enjoy being on your own and learning about yourself for a while before making -any- choice.

One other thing that I think is important is that, when we are healthy and self-aware, most of the time our 'best' choices are self-evident. We know what feels right, and we are strong and secure about letting go of the addictions that keep us clinging to choices that aren't really choices, because we already know that they're not suited to our nature or our circumstances at the time. Many times, we rush into things -knowing- that they're not suitable, with the idea that, if we hurry up and 'grab the golden ring', we'll be able to adapt the situation so that it is more like what we -really- want. In contrast to the earlier thread on risk-taking, there is a point at which we move -so- quickly that we blatantly ignore the clues telling us that something either -is- or -isn't- a fit for us. Initiating new things is good... but it is also important to be self-aware enough to be able to let -go- of new things that turn out to be a poor fit before anyone involved is excessively damaged by the exploratory process.

I hope these thoughts help.

Dame Calla



pompeii -> RE: Vietnam or Thetford? (6/26/2009 5:54:29 AM)

Thetford is a name you can trust, and a company you can count on. Thetford brand products include Permanent and Portable Toilets, Chemicals and Cleaners, ...
www.thetford.com/



CelticPrince -> RE: Vietnam or Thetford? (6/26/2009 6:51:15 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Prinsexx

I was texting Stella, like we do. It was late and I was at the end of the text and wanted to say, text number one:~ helicopters down by the river...must be a search down by the river
and text two: at least it drowns out the whine of mosquitoes its like Thetford.

Now of course that's not what I intended to text. Being facetious and ironic I wanted to text its like Vietnam BUT my predictive text offered me the choice between Vietrnam and Thetford.

Now all but the politically dead surely know where and what Vietnam is? And Thetford by the way is rural Thetford in Norfolk Englan and is traditionally thought of as the royal residence of Boudica, Queen of the Iceni. The Iceni were a Celtic tribe living in Norfolk and parts of Cambridgeshire. Archaeological evidence suggests that Thetford was an important tribal centre during the late Iron Age and early Roman period. Noting much has happened there since then I don’t think apart from celebrations of the Autumnal Eqyinox (much quieter than Stonehenge).

By a simple press of a key I could have sent the wrong text, given the wrong impression, made a wrong choice. You have to admit it's a polarity of intellenet text is the choice between Nietnam and Thetford.


I'm at a crossroads right now big time. Do I chose to go into relationship in this direction or that? But then life is like that and you might say bdsm choices are no different. Except to me they are. They balance of a knife's edges. Do I accept the xollar? Do I ask for limits (and numb out my submission)? Do I spend time abroad for a week or so in what at the moment would be a long Distance Relationship. (I yearn to get out of this stuck in rut England feeling in three years time when my youngsters are all old enough to be self suddicient.


Or do I go for a ciffee up the road with a man I know is is going to nore me within a few eels and I will release myself? Shall I was for a beloved friend to see if he will have me back and we can play once every 4 weeks. He and I are only an hours drive apart.


So my questions are:
Has your bdsm ever offerred you a choice? A sliding door? A Vietnam versus Thetford?  Thetford? Did you make the right choice? Do you always make the right choice? Did you make a wrong choice and what were the consequences?

quote:

I was texting Stella, like we do. It was late and I was at the end of the text and wanted to say, text number one:~ helicopters down by the river...must be a search down by the river
and text two: at least it drowns out the whine of mosquitoes its like Thetford.

Now of course that's not what I intended to text. Being facetious and ironic I wanted to text its like Vietnam BUT my predictive text offered me the choice between Vietrnam and Thetford.

Now all but the politically dead surely know where and what Vietnam is? And Thetford by the way is rural Thetford in Norfolk Englan and is traditionally thought of as the royal residence of Boudica, Queen of the Iceni. The Iceni were a Celtic tribe living in Norfolk and parts of Cambridgeshire. Archaeological evidence suggests that Thetford was an important tribal centre during the late Iron Age and early Roman period. Noting much has happened there since then I don’t think apart from celebrations of the Autumnal Eqyinox (much quieter than Stonehenge).

By a simple press of a key I could have sent the wrong text, given the wrong impression, made a wrong choice. You have to admit it's a polarity of intellenet text is the choice between Nietnam and Thetford.


I'm at a crossroads right now big time. Do I chose to go into relationship in this direction or that? But then life is like that and you might say bdsm choices are no different. Except to me they are. They balance of a knife's edges. Do I accept the xollar? Do I ask for limits (and numb out my submission)? Do I spend time abroad for a week or so in what at the moment would be a long Distance Relationship. (I yearn to get out of this stuck in rut England feeling in three years time when my youngsters are all old enough to be self suddicient.


Or do I go for a ciffee up the road with a man I know is is going to nore me within a few eels and I will release myself? Shall I was for a beloved friend to see if he will have me back and we can play once every 4 weeks. He and I are only an hours drive apart.


So my questions are:
Has your bdsm ever offerred you a choice? A sliding door? A Vietnam versus Thetford? Thetford? Did you make the right choice? Do you always make the right choice? Did you make a wrong choice and what were the consequences?


Prin,

Methinks the Iceni were a branch of the Pics! But I digress. Choices on the path present themselves all the time and yours are classice,stay with the familiar or spread the wings and venture out. In my view it depends alot on how long you have been communicating with this Yankee Dominant and your comfort level. Has he first cometo you? If not then my answer is no the relationship has not yet seasoned.

CP



Prinsexx -> RE: Vietnam or Thetford? (6/26/2009 8:30:16 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: CallaFirestormBW


I hope these thoughts help.

Dame Calla

Thank you Dame Calla.
Eloquent as well as supportive as usual.




Prinsexx -> RE: Vietnam or Thetford? (6/26/2009 8:31:57 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: pompeii

Thetford is a name you can trust, and a company you can count on. Thetford brand products include Permanent and Portable Toilets, Chemicals and Cleaners, ...
www.thetford.com/

How safe can some things be?
'going thetford'.. think i will submit it to the urban dictionary.



Prinsexx -> RE: Vietnam or Thetford? (6/26/2009 8:44:46 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: CelticPrince


Methinks the Iceni were a branch of the Pics! But I digress. Choices on the path present themselves all the time and yours are classice,stay with the familiar or spread the wings and venture out. In my view it depends alot on how long you have been communicating with this Yankee Dominant and your comfort level. Has he first cometo you? If not then my answer is no the relationship has not yet seasoned.

CP

I don't know why my OP got repeated twice in your reply. Maybe i do repeat myself though. Sometimes choices seem alternatives, sometimes mutually exclusive and sometimes mutually inclusive.
I'm far more equipped to make sound choices in most of my life but am beginning to wonder if i have much as to what i base my bdsm activities on other than lets day: male, dominant. Looks yes i suppose are very important but i do so wish that i could get some 'matching' (the matching psychological principle) with the intelligence thing as well.
My bdsm choices just go on intuition and it's gailing me. In other words i end up in Nam when I just wanted to go sit in a stone circle and feel the rain.
And as time passes i'm taking more and more risks. I get bored, restless and feeled trapped by the familiar.
It's truly choking me at the moment and not in a good way.




variation30 -> RE: Vietnam or Thetford? (6/26/2009 9:28:58 AM)

just by definition, human action (every human action) is both a fulfillment and a renunciation.

I'm about to go shower. by doing that, I am forfeiting the infinite alternatives to going an taking a shower.

substitute shower for married, collared, sex, dating, calling, texting, etc. and you'll see that yes, any relationship is a vietnam or thetford.



BarnacleBill -> RE: Vietnam or Thetford? (6/26/2009 10:06:53 AM)

Hmm interesting thread love it! Dont recall the smell of Napalm or Agent Orange in jolly old England so hey go with England okay?[;)]

Well there is a influence on us poor humans and its much older than then the celtics or pics. They are called the fates, three sisters from before man who do their best to cause us much trouble for their fun.

No matter our choice right for us or wrong they will toy with it and for no other reason than to enjoy our re=actions! So make the choice that you want and you have to live with.

And as a certain Knight once said..."Choose but Choose wisely!"



Prinsexx -> RE: Vietnam or Thetford? (6/26/2009 11:24:04 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: variation30

just by definition, human action (every human action) is both a fulfillment and a renunciation.

I'm about to go shower. by doing that, I am forfeiting the infinite alternatives to going an taking a shower.

substitute shower for married, collared, sex, dating, calling, texting, etc. and you'll see that yes, any relationship is a vietnam or thetford.


Yes i agree about the nature of choices BUT i just don't feel the same decision processes involved in mundane, everyday decision making. Let's say a trip round my supermarket. Choice is limited, all within a range (say free-range or battery  produced eggs) all within a sell by date. My choices there are done in public, from a limited range of goods, all having to be paid for on the ticket price.
My bdsm on the other hand is private, choice is transferred into the hands of the dominant. The sense of pleasure far far outweighs anything i can 'but' at an agreed price, but that pleasure is not nurturing to those around me, only to me.
That's it's kick if i am honest.




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