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IronBear -> RE: Anyone into the smoking fetish? (6/28/2009 8:27:04 AM)

Using a clay pipe, I will occasionally use a variety of herbs which I experiment with such as Hops, Mug Wart, Cloves, Black Lotus etc all which are both legal and readily available here. A blend comprising mostly with camomile for example has a similar effect as drinking camomile tea. However normally I load my pipe with Irish mixure tobacco. I quit using chewing tobacco when I came home from 'Nam. I will say in defence of us smokers, cigarettes (Pipes and cigars too) are an incredable short term method of stress relief which is one reason why many law Inforcement officers smoke. before any wants to jump in and inform me that there are very good anti stress medications available, which my medical folk used to do untill I informed them that all Anti Srtess medication has as a side effect, creating psychocis and seeing that I not only have a Special Fores Weapons Bag at home as required by my Government (including naturally ammunition) When I go out at night I carry a loaded hand gun as I am again required and often do duruing the day, no one in theor right mind wants a trained person armed taking medication which can and will make him psychotic. Ergo Smoking de stresses me. If it killes me ahh well shit happens and who wants to live forever anyway. If my smoking costs me a possible relationship, the loss is theirs not mine. 




BarnacleBill -> RE: Anyone into the smoking fetish? (6/28/2009 9:55:59 AM)

So true and if Postal workers were allowed to smoke on the job they would be lots happier. If people dont like smoking and I refer to outside my home or outside period. Dont stand down wind of me okay? Some like it others dont but we all have the freedom of choice dont we?




Arpig -> RE: Anyone into the smoking fetish? (6/28/2009 10:13:53 AM)

I smoke, and I agree with those that find it a nasty stinking habit. Starting was the stupidest thing I ever did, and I urge all and sundry to never light up their first. And to those, like me, for whom it is too late, well you have my sympathy...lets go out for a smoke.




NYLass -> RE: Anyone into the smoking fetish? (6/28/2009 10:19:19 AM)

I smoke (cigarettes & cigars) because I enjoy it.  Not an addiction, nor a fetish.  If I didn't smoke for a week, I wouldn't miss it.  Now, get between me and my coffee...We gots us a serious "brew"-haha...




variation30 -> RE: Anyone into the smoking fetish? (6/28/2009 12:27:27 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Arpig

I smoke, and I agree with those that find it a nasty stinking habit. Starting was the stupidest thing I ever did, and I urge all and sundry to never light up their first. And to those, like me, for whom it is too late, well you have my sympathy...lets go out for a smoke.


I encourage all youngsters to try smoking. who knows, it may turn out to be an activity which enriches their lives as it has mine.




janiebelle -> RE: Anyone into the smoking fetish? (6/28/2009 1:14:14 PM)

I don't smoke.  I find it unattractive and unladylike.
That said, I don't care who does.  I keep a smoker friendly home.  There are ashtrays in my living room and dining room.  I would find it rude to tell an invited guest in my home to go outside.  And it would be unpleasant for everyone if smokers were run off before after-dinner coffee. 
Of course, I tend to get a lot of visits from those whose wives won't tolerate smoking in the house.  So if the weather gets foul, or there is an important football game on, my home is sure to be occupied by a group of people with a cloud of smoke around them. 
And it doesn't bother me a bit.
j




MarsBonfire -> RE: Anyone into the smoking fetish? (6/28/2009 1:32:16 PM)

Chia,

LOL! (Can I steal that?)




Esinn -> RE: Anyone into the smoking fetish? (6/28/2009 1:46:29 PM)

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ORIGINAL: johnnyluca

Cigarettes and sometimes cigars?


Yes - cigarettes
No - Cigars




BoundBrosef -> RE: Anyone into the smoking fetish? (6/28/2009 1:49:17 PM)

most of my friends smoke, but it's only to cover up the smell of other smoke...I'd say I might buy a pack every two to three weeks, and I usually smoke for aesthetic reasons...I've always wondered, though, what is it about smoking as a fetish that people like? Is it the control of making someone accept the smell or the taste? I'm curious.




chiaThePet -> RE: Anyone into the smoking fetish? (6/28/2009 5:23:51 PM)

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ORIGINAL: MarsBonfire

Chia,

LOL! (Can I steal that?)


Butt of course.

I did.

chia* (the pet)




JoanieHoney2001 -> RE: Anyone into the smoking fetish? (6/28/2009 10:02:06 PM)

I smoke but if I am in a public place that allows me to smoke I will ask the people around me if it would bother them, if they say yes then I will go outside. My parents both smoke but not in the house, we go to the back porch in the summer or the garage in the winter. I personal feel that if it would offend the people around me I have no problem going outside or if we are outside, away from them. I know it is a nasty habit, the last time I tried to quit I was managing a pizza place and after two days the kids working for me all came to the break room and presented me with a cigarette, they said "smoke it, chew it, eat it, we don't care. You are such a pain in the ass we all want to quit working here." So, of course I smoked the damn thing and got hooked again.




ranja -> RE: Anyone into the smoking fetish? (6/29/2009 2:06:22 AM)

Smoking stinks

it makes your mouth taste faul and your hair and entire body stink of it.
It can give you the nastiest deceases and make your gums recede so you get horrible teeth... some peple start to cough with this horrible flem and they sound disgustingly pathetic
It is a rediculous expensive habit and for men: it makes your dick limp eventually.

it is beyond me why any sane person would want to stink up their sexlife




ranja -> RE: Anyone into the smoking fetish? (6/29/2009 2:16:49 AM)

IronBear...i think you are mistaken on the stress relief issue...smoking causes far more stress than it relieves...it makes your heart beat faster not slower and your body has to work harder to get rid of the toxins...and for heavy addicts there is all the stress of making sure the next ciggy is there to light...the only stress relief is in your mind...it is a lie though...if you (mistakenly) think you need the nicotine i think it might be better to stick a patch on or chew the gum (but thats quite a disgusting habit too)

I mean no disrespect, but smoking really does stink on so many levels...




plushiecat -> RE: Anyone into the smoking fetish? (6/29/2009 2:28:48 AM)

I cannot fathom why anyone would wish to light up a cancer stick.  They got that moniker for a reason.  >.<  There will NEVER be smoking allowed anywhere that I call home, but thankfully that matters little, as no one I call friend smokes.  The stench lingers for days, it makes the clothes reek, the breath foul, and the smoke clings to any fabric it can for who knows how long.  Who wants to kiss an ashtray, anyway?  I, for one, am quite glad smoking has been regularly banned from the majority of public places.  I once saw a lovely poster:  Having a smoking section in a restaurant is about as effective as having a peeing section in a public pool.




ranja -> RE: Anyone into the smoking fetish? (6/29/2009 4:02:14 AM)

as for it being a fetish...i forgot to say that i once saw a bit of porn movie where a woman smoked a cigaret with her fanny... of course one could consider everyone who smokes a bit of a twat but this just really brought it home...how disgusting...




IronBear -> RE: Anyone into the smoking fetish? (6/29/2009 7:29:48 AM)

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ORIGINAL: ranja

IronBear...i think you are mistaken on the stress relief issue...smoking causes far more stress than it relieves...it makes your heart beat faster not slower and your body has to work harder to get rid of the toxins...and for heavy addicts there is all the stress of making sure the next ciggy is there to light...the only stress relief is in your mind...it is a lie though...if you (mistakenly) think you need the nicotine i think it might be better to stick a patch on or chew the gum (but thats quite a disgusting habit too)

I mean no disrespect, but smoking really does stink on so many levels...


I suggest that my experience with the effects of smoking as a stress relief and that of many others should discount your opinion which unless based on personal experience of high levels of stress such as police and similar occupations experience when walking or driving into a volatile situation and where your life is on the line often. There is also sufficient medical opinions which support my comments about anti-stress medication causing psychosis should you wish to research the matter. I seriously doubt were your own life at risk and you could afford to hire myself with my team, you would not question my smoking at times to get the stress levels down to an operational basis.

Long term, your comments is accurate however if you re-read my post I'm sure you will find that I did stipulate short term stress relief. Your comments are valuable and I do not intend to rubbish you, however I posted as I often do, based on personal experience as pertaining to my lifestyles or occupations. I should add that as a certified paramedic with combat experience in field surgery under fire, I am not unaware of the side effects of medications I use. Still perhaps we can agree to disagree in this matter..
[;)]




angelikaJ -> RE: Anyone into the smoking fetish? (6/29/2009 7:38:49 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: IronBear

quote:

ORIGINAL: ranja

IronBear...i think you are mistaken on the stress relief issue...smoking causes far more stress than it relieves...it makes your heart beat faster not slower and your body has to work harder to get rid of the toxins...and for heavy addicts there is all the stress of making sure the next ciggy is there to light...the only stress relief is in your mind...it is a lie though...if you (mistakenly) think you need the nicotine i think it might be better to stick a patch on or chew the gum (but thats quite a disgusting habit too)

I mean no disrespect, but smoking really does stink on so many levels...


I suggest that my experience with the effects of smoking as a stress relief and that of many others should discount your opinion which unless based on personal experience of high levels of stress such as police and similar occupations experience when walking or driving into a volatile situation and where your life is on the line often. There is also sufficient medical opinions which support my comments about anti-stress medication causing psychosis should you wish to research the matter. I seriously doubt were your own life at risk and you could afford to hire myself with my team, you would not question my smoking at times to get the stress levels down to an operational basis.

Long term, your comments is accurate however if you re-read my post I'm sure you will find that I did stipulate short term stress relief. Your comments are valuable and I do not intend to rubbish you, however I posted as I often do, based on personal experience as pertaining to my lifestyles or occupations. I should add that as a certified paramedic with combat experience in field surgery under fire, I am not unaware of the side effects of medications I use. Still perhaps we can agree to disagree in this matter..
[;)]



I remembered a post from this thread

http://www.collarchat.com/m_1900770/mpage_1/key_nicotine/tm.htm#1901514 

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ORIGINAL: Emperor1956


You are completely wrong.  In fact, nicotine is an amazing drug.  It improves concentration.  It improves short term memory.  Depending on the delivery concentrations, it can calm the CNS, or it can stimulate it.   

The amazing thing about smoking is how it is perfectly adapted to the human physiology.   Take for example, the ability of the body to self-regulate the nicotine uptake.   Envision the classic stressed smoker -- puffing fast, shallow breaths, rapid draw on the cigarette one after another, no pauses.  What she's doing is shallow oxygenation.  The nicotine gets into the bloodstream and to the brain (amazingly quickly, but that's a whole 'nother post) and begins to "damp down" the adrenaline.  NOW, imagine the same smoker, relaxed, languid (the famous post-coital cigarette comes to mind).  What is she doing?  Drawing on the cigarette with long, slow puffs.  Usually putting it down between draws.  Chatting.  slowly exhaling.  And that draws in the nicotine to stimulate the CNS, excite some of the brain chemical receptors, and give the smoker a more focused sense and a sense of well-being.

The problem is the delivery system.  It kills the smoker, and those around her.  Patches don't work well.  Smokeless cigarettes have been useless, and don't really prevent the health problems.  The person who comes up with a safe nicotine delivery system will rule the planet.  

E (who doesn't smoke cigarettes, but loves a good cigar, and a few other modalities) 

Edited to add:   Angelika is right of course in that nicotine, orally ingested, is a deadly poison.  Then again, misused, so is insulin.  You pays your money and you takes your chances, like so much in life.   My points were (1) faery is just dead wrong when she says you don't get anything from cigarettes -- as any nicotine addict will of course tell you and (2) but for the nasty delivery system (nails, teeth, clothing, smell -- I hate the smell of old cigarette smoke -- not to mention the disease factors we all know so well) nicotine is, to quote Rick James, "a helluva drug"!




IronBear -> RE: Anyone into the smoking fetish? (6/29/2009 7:43:17 AM)

Thank you angelikaj. Q.E.D. 




ranja -> RE: Anyone into the smoking fetish? (6/29/2009 12:52:30 PM)

Sir...anyone who wants to smoke will have their (at least to themselves) legitimate reasons...my dad thinks he needs it as well, i still love him...i myself did for long enough and both my brothers do...we were brought up in a smoking household we all smoked from very young ages....some people even believe some people are more susceptible to the 'need' like it can be in your genes to need to smoke...what ever suits the person to have an excuse i think of such reasoning.

I quit because i was pregnant and i am a whimp for public opinion what that is concerned...i know what i think about pregnant girls smoking...i would rather die than anyone thinking such thinks about myself.

It was quite surprising to me that my Husband had never earlier expressed a wish (or rather command) for me to stop this bad habit as He Himself had knocked it on the head and i did feel a bit lousy to say the least to continue stinking out the house...but He never put His foot down so i puffed away merrily, i am awfully weak like that...even settled to go without the snogs... so eventually it was our child that made me stop this unhealthy and in my opinion rather selfish and childish behaviour...
i still get cravings at times.

I did use to get quite frightening sort of panick attacks with scares about dreadful illness... that i would have to go to hospital with lungcancer and the doctors would tell me that it really was my own stupid fault... like what did i expect smoking all this filth... would i think that i would stay healthy? and i would feel really stupid and guilty and die because of my own stupidity... and then i would feel a little twinge in my chest....
To combat these awful thoughts i would usually pretend i had not thought this and light another cigaret to prove the point to myself...

So Sir, to me smoking was a selfish, childish, stinky, expencive and indeed quite stressful habit...i am very pleased with myself that i managed to get a grip before it was too late.
Like you said...we all look upon things from our own experiences.

I hope you stay well




MistressRage -> RE: Anyone into the smoking fetish? (6/29/2009 1:27:36 PM)

Never cigarettes but always cigars and sometimes cigarillos. Macanudo anyone?




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