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RE: no limit slave - 2/15/2006 10:36:43 PM   
seaturtle50


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In my understanding, someone with no limits is someone who will adhere to my limits (no matter how tame/outrageous) being the slave. Having no limits shouldn't come with an attached list of things I will be doing to him so that he will be satisfied I'm edgy enough for him. M


Thank You Ms. M., and if that was poetry than this should be textbook ;-)

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RE: no limit slave - 2/15/2006 10:53:52 PM   
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Ms Texas Ma'am i dont see where i have added you to my admirirers list

there are certainley sadists here in cal , and yes i would beg not to die but i do offer total control to my Owner and seek the strictest harshest training and treatment that is possible.
i am sorry if that bothers people who think they should be able to tell me what my kink should look like, my real question really stays here unanswered, talking with one Domme she kept emphasizing that i would be ok even though i would be used hard.
mystery is exciting and if you trust someone do you have to say that ?


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RE: no limit slave - 2/16/2006 3:52:54 AM   
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It's the sarbonnic law of disproportionality: "All that ye seek shall be located slightly out of your reach, yet be in abundance." This coincides with the sarbonnic corollary of disproportionality that states: "If ye move to the location of abundance, the universe shall shift slightly so that the abundance is now relocated to where you had once begun."

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RE: no limit slave - 2/16/2006 7:38:01 AM   
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ORIGINAL: nolimitslaveCA

Ms Texas Ma'am i dont see where i have added you to my admirirers list

there are certainley sadists here in cal , and yes i would beg not to die but i do offer total control to my Owner and seek the strictest harshest training and treatment that is possible.
i am sorry if that bothers people who think they should be able to tell me what my kink should look like, my real question really stays here unanswered, talking with one Domme she kept emphasizing that i would be ok even though i would be used hard.
mystery is exciting and if you trust someone do you have to say that ?




I think I may understand where you are coming from... You want to EVENTUALLY have no need for limits because you would so trust your Dominant after years of playing together?

Is that correct?

Because that's the only sane way that I can interpret what you are saying. You clearly have limits as you said "I would beg not to die". That's a limit, a limit of death. It's a limit that my subs that I have played with do not need to state with me because it's something that we have come to understand as a mutual limit through discussion of needs, desires, and LIMITS.

We have established which of our limits are compatible and do not need to be reestablished with each successive play session. We have also come to an agreement on other limits which are not shared and discuss where we are with those limits, what boundaries will be respected, and what boundaries will be expanded.

Or, is it possible that your self esteem is so low that you think you are more attractive to a Domina if there are no limits to what they can do to you? Is that why you have such a problem with that word and admitting that you have some?

Limits are not a bad thing. They are not negatives or draw backs to be used against a sub or slave. They are boundaries, some used for protection of life and limb, some used for protection of mental health, and others used for comfort level. Those limits that exist solely for comfort level are usually pushed and expanded on until the boundaries have been erased by comfortability, knowledge of your partner, and self awareness.

Those limits that exist for the protection of mental health are debatable, some Dominants will help a sub/slave work through a difficult subject or event in their life through play, some things will forever be left alone. Whether or not they are hard or soft limits needs to be established, discussed and well considered as other aspects of play may trigger the same feelings.

The goal of a relationship based on complete trust is a wonderful goal. The desire to have no need for limits to be stated is a great fantasy. But the facts of life are such that to play with anyone, ANYONE without limits is inviting the worst. Offering yourself up to any sadist that will treat you as strict and harsh as possible and saying "do what you will, I have no limits"? That is asking to be maimed at the least.

I don't see where anyone is telling you what your kink should be. I see a whole lot of people giving you advice on how not to get killed. Unless that is your kink.


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RE: no limit slave - 2/16/2006 8:35:10 PM   
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i dont think it would have to take years of play to get to a " no limit" situation and i dont think limits are bad but i really dont want any other than perm harm and no illegal acts.
im really not sure why people have a hard time with someone not having other limits.

no i dont think my self esteem is bad i have really good self esteem actually i hope not having limits would be attractive yes Ma'am.

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RE: no limit slave - 2/16/2006 8:56:33 PM   
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ORIGINAL: nolimitslaveCA

i dont think it would have to take years of play to get to a " no limit" situation and i dont think limits are bad but i really dont want any other than perm harm and no illegal acts.
im really not sure why people have a hard time with someone not having other limits.

no i dont think my self esteem is bad i have really good self esteem actually i hope not having limits would be attractive yes Ma'am.


the bold part=limits...you have limits...you can't say that you have no limits. NO ONE has a problem with you not having OTHER limits, we all had a problem with you having NO limits. But clearly you have SOME limits.

now, onto the next thing here...no illegal acts? hmmmmm, I suggest you look up what's illegal in CA...you may change your mind.

And now...I shall take my leave, good luck to you.




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RE: no limit slave - 2/16/2006 9:43:11 PM   
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LOL yes she does...

I gotta say though....anyone who says "no limits" to someone who straight out SAYS they are a sadist...just isn't all there.

Believe me. We'll find things you won't do.


*laughs* Oh hell.. I'm not that sadistic.. but I find people who say they have "no limits" a challenge. I'd would seek and seek and seek to find that one thing that becomes a limit.

Even if its force feeding them brussel sprouts. Sometimes its odd what people find is a limit.

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RE: no limit slave - 2/16/2006 10:27:23 PM   
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ORIGINAL: SimplyV

*laughs* Oh hell.. I'm not that sadistic.. but I find people who say they have "no limits" a challenge. I'd would seek and seek and seek to find that one thing that becomes a limit.

Even if its force feeding them brussel sprouts. Sometimes its odd what people find is a limit.


Okay, Okay, I admit it! Brussel Sprouts are a hard limit for Me!

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RE: no limit slave - 2/17/2006 3:16:03 AM   
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im really not sure why people have a hard time with someone not having other limits.


No one has a hard time with "few limits". It's the claim of "no limits" that we have a hard time with, because we know its simply not true.


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RE: no limit slave - 2/17/2006 4:21:17 AM   
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i have never met a no limit Domme and i am pretty sure i wouldn't want to. i have also never met a no limit sub in real life, although i have seen a few posts online from people claiming to be no limits. i had one ask for a castration scene and i offered to cut it off for him, but explained i had never done it before and i hoped he wasn't worried about bleeding to death. Never heard back from him, so i don't know if he got his scene or not.

i did make a comment to a Domme that i felt i had no limits with her, because i trusted her to do anything she wanted to me. She pointed out that i still had limits, i just knew her and trusted her enough to know she had the same limits.

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RE: no limit slave - 2/17/2006 4:31:32 AM   
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i don't think anyone is trying to tell you what your kink should be. They are just trying to explain to you that saying "no limits" is a red flag to a lot of people. It shows a lack of experience and understanding of what limits are all about. There are a lot of very smart people on this board and sometimes its good to just sit and listen for a while. Try not to take what they say personally, but use it to learn and grow.

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RE: no limit slave - 2/17/2006 6:28:23 AM   
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i have gotten that i dont want to die or be maimed and to be honest i dont want to to be taken advantage of financially.
other than that and not doing kids or other illegal things i do want to be taken and live a life of full slavery
i hope to be pushed to be made to do things i dont find erotic and to be used emotionally and physically as property.


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RE: no limit slave - 2/18/2006 11:40:20 AM   
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ORIGINAL: slv4manhaterWomy

i have gotten that i dont want to die or be maimed and to be honest i dont want to to be taken advantage of financially.
other than that and not doing kids or other illegal things i do want to be taken and live a life of full slavery
i hope to be pushed to be made to do things i dont find erotic and to be used emotionally and physically as property.




Oh.. good points.. I need to add "take advantage of financially" to my list of things to do to a "no limits" sub. Maybe I could find a "win/win" situation.

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