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RE: Is bisexuality part of being submissive??? - 2/16/2006 4:56:58 PM

Lenina

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In my opinion, the majority of submissives are female.

Interesting. On what do you base your opinion?

Celeste

Dittoing that.

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ORIGINAL: BitaTruble

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In my opinion, the majority of submissives are female.

Interesting. On what do you base your opinion?

Celeste

Dittoing that.

I Just base it on my observations. Since I've been involved in this life, I've met many submissives, both male and female. I have simply noticed that there are more submissive females than males. To give a better idea of what I meant, I would guess 75% of the submissives I know are female, 25% male.
Like I said, just my opinion.

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RE: Is bisexuality part of being submissive??? - 2/17/2006 3:50:15 AM

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wow i had wondered if this would ever cum up here i hadnt seen it before . but i have met a few Mistreses whos wanted this toooo seeing too males both sub playing and makeing them or forecing them into the bi play scene but only at that time ???/ i knew some sub males whos crossdress have done this and some Mistreses ive spoken too say the sub cd have this want in the fantsay s i know you all will hit me with ohh bad tatse but this is my feelings

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RE: Is bisexuality part of being submissive??? - 2/18/2006 6:31:51 AM

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well having been in Gor and read about amazons i think it would be a draw. Maybe not but thas just my 2 cents.

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On any day any one person irrespective of sex can win in combat. No one is unbeatable as history has shown. With my Mercenary teams, about half were females. In a combat sense they were as Amazons (who were part of the Greek Society and migrated to the Steps and their blood is in the Mongolian Women). My girls were trained by people like me and some had been trained by members of the FFL. I’ve also been in action with women commandos in the Israeli forces too. Lets just agree it would normally be a close match with each sex having advantages and disadvantages.. BTW, My late Sensei’s daughter, a Japanese lass, who stood to her full height of 5’ could often beat my arse in all martial arts weapons except the katana and shirikin as well as knife fighting. I saw her wipe out a biker bar on her own one night too.

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RE: Is bisexuality part of being submissive??? - 2/18/2006 7:16:24 AM

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No, being bisexual is NOT part of being a submissive. It is however a requirement of being my submissive

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RE: Is bisexuality part of being submissive??? - 2/18/2006 7:24:43 AM

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Littlepita.....

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I'm not bi and I am very submissive.

I have had sex with a woman and I might again. I still don't think I would consider myself bisexual. For me, I think of being bi meaning you have feelings other then just sexual for the opposite sex and for me that simply isn't the case.

If you are sexually attracted to members of both sexes, then you are bisexual (that's what it means, it has nothing to do with deeper feelings at all...I am bisexual in that I am attracted to men as well as women. However, to this point (and I think after 46 years it is pretty safe to say a trend has been established) I have never felt anything romantic towards a man. To me they are purely sexual, there is no emotional bond or draw whatsoever, beyond those of friendship.

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RE: Is bisexuality part of being submissive??? - 2/18/2006 8:38:18 AM

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No, being bisexual is NOT part of being a submissive. It is however a requirement of being my submissive

Interestingly said. i am not bi-sexual. i have had one very brief encounter with a woman years ago and didn't enjoy it. i do know, however, that playing with another woman for my Master's pleasure/enjoyment/amusement will be required of me, and i look forward to pleasing him by doing so.

Simply put, i would not seek a woman on my own, but would gladly/happily/eagerly play with a woman for my Master.

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RE: Is bisexuality part of being submissive??? - 2/18/2006 9:42:45 PM

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ORIGINAL: Lenina

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To give a better idea of what I meant, I would guess 75% of the submissives I know are female, 25% male.
Like I said, just my opinion.

I would love to know what the true stats are on that. I would have agreed with you until i started reviewing new profiles. I wouldn't be a bit surprised if the numbers were reveresed...my guess would be somewhere around 70% male and 30% female.

Oops sorry, didn't mean to change the direction of the post....carry on.

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RE: Is bisexuality part of being submissive??? - 2/18/2006 11:08:54 PM

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Bisexuality is neither required, nor desired in my submissive. Just a personal preference.

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RE: Is bisexuality part of being submissive??? - 2/18/2006 11:14:06 PM

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Interestingly said. i am not bi-sexual. i have had one very brief encounter with a woman years ago and didn't enjoy it. i do know, however, that playing with another woman for my Master's pleasure/enjoyment/amusement will be required of me, and i look forward to pleasing him by doing so.

i will never submit to a Mistress if any envolvement on my part was a requirement, even if it pleases Her. it is the strongest limit i have.

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RE: Is bisexuality part of being submissive??? - 2/19/2006 4:49:59 AM

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While being bisexual isn't a requirement for me to consider a sub, being open minded, tolerant, and not homophobic is.

While I've never run into this issue with femsubs, I have run into homophobia in male subs - being soooo paranoid about being even in any kind of proximity (meaning: being at small parties with other males, being played with at events where other males will be, co-serving at a dinner party with another male) to another male. That level of homophobia is absolute nonsense, IMHO, and the male in question needs to get over himself and focus on what he's supposed to be doing - serving the Domme. It's as if they are paranoid about, if they come withint a mile of another male, that other male might get a stiffy and accidentally fall on top of them. ::eyeroll::

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RE: Is bisexuality part of being submissive??? - 2/19/2006 5:25:49 AM

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my distaste for men has nothing to do with sexual orientation, it stems from the streotyping of men that has caused this. i have stated this in another thread but will be as brief as i possibly can in my explaination.

men are expected to know about, pariciapte and LOVE sports

now, moving on to something alittle more important. thank you all for playing...LOL

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RE: Is bisexuality part of being submissive??? - 2/19/2006 5:35:04 AM

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I do sense that some males use the strength of a dom, to explore their fem side for lack of a better phrase. The excuse made ( while unless it was rape for real) is usally I was force to do it. That some how a Woman with a cane or riding crop, behind closed doors and after a level of trust has been developed, somehow broke a male slave down and went about forcing him to perform on another male. And the next question I always ask is "so was the last time you saw here?" The answer I get it , " Oh no, I am seeing her this weekend". Please , admit you have the desire and you wanted to explore it?

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RE: Is bisexuality part of being submissive??? - 2/19/2006 5:55:01 AM

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ORIGINAL: michaelGA

my distaste for men has nothing to do with sexual orientation, it stems from the streotyping of men that has caused this. i have stated this in another thread but will be as brief as i possibly can in my explaination.

men are expected to know about, pariciapte and LOVE sports

now, moving on to something alittle more important. thank you all for playing...LOL

Actually michael old lad, I just have to completely disagree with you in this.... Amongst my friends and aquaintences, Ther are quite a few men, and I do mean manly men who have not only no iterest in sport but abhore it. Theye find more productive things to do with their spare time. However I must say that neither they or I consider a fitness program as sport but rather as an ongoing part of their wellness. On a personal basis, I've never considered The martial Arts I have doe and taught as a sport. My belief and philosophy regarding Martial Arts is that it is part opf my growth in fitness, spiritually and disclipline. It is after as the name suggests Martial (War or Combat) Arts.

Cheers mate.

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RE: Is bisexuality part of being submissive??? - 2/19/2006 6:08:02 AM

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i agree with that, Sir as i don't consider martial arts as a sport, but a life-long philosophy, a wellness activity and a form of self-defense.

i just get tired of going out in public, especially after some sporting event that occured on TV or whatnot, and being asked by people, mostly men, "Did you catch the game last night?" or "Who's your favorite team?"

now, honestly, how many ladies out there have to contend with this?

and, to clear things up just a little more, if i WERE female, i still wouldn't have much want, need or desire to be around men. hopefully this will clear up the homophobic issue.

something else on this last issue i must say before moving on.

i love to cook, sew, shop, watch soaps and some "chick-flix" and this has caused a few people, mostly male, to take it upon themselves, to lable me as gay...this upsets me to no end. i hope this clears it all up for everyone.

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RE: Is bisexuality part of being submissive??? - 2/19/2006 6:31:56 AM

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ORIGINAL: IronBear

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my distaste for men has nothing to do with sexual orientation, it stems from the streotyping of men that has caused this. i have stated this in another thread but will be as brief as i possibly can in my explaination.

men are expected to know about, pariciapte and LOVE sports

now, moving on to something alittle more important. thank you all for playing...LOL

Actually michael old lad, I just have to completely disagree with you in this.... Amongst my friends and aquaintences, Ther are quite a few men, and I do mean manly men who have not only no iterest in sport but abhore it. Theye find more productive things to do with their spare time. However I must say that neither they or I consider a fitness program as sport but rather as an ongoing part of their wellness. On a personal basis, I've never considered The martial Arts I have doe and taught as a sport. My belief and philosophy regarding Martial Arts is that it is part opf my growth in fitness, spiritually and disclipline. It is after as the name suggests Martial (War or Combat) Arts.

Cheers mate.

Yet again I'm lining up with you IronBear. I have little interest in sports, as sports. Oh, I hunt, parachute, scuba dive, motorcycle and a bunch of other things, but I don't see them as sports, I see them as skill sets.

Moreover, I think Michael is really speaking of team sports, and in those, I have absolutely no interest.

What's really amusing is that more gays of my acquaintance than straight men don't care for organized sports. By his present statement (and a number of others) he's made himself sound as if he'd fit in to many of the gay groups I know.

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RE: Is bisexuality part of being submissive??? - 2/19/2006 7:11:26 AM

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Oops, did it again.

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RE: Is bisexuality part of being submissive??? - 2/19/2006 7:16:25 AM

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Sharing a computer can be dangerous. That's the second time I've posted something logged in under her account. (See above.) Anyway...

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ORIGINAL: MsSonnetMarwood

While being bisexual isn't a requirement for me to consider a sub, being open minded, tolerant, and not homophobic is.

As an ex jock, I'm getting a bit put off by all this jockaphobia. The sports bashing has to stop.

On point. Forced bi is an absolute hard limit for me. It's true I have been "overboard" homophobic in the past. But being in the vicinity, in a scene, or even the idea of being topped by another man doesn't bother me, unless forced bi would be involved, which it wouldn't. I owe my Ma'am a lot for knocking the homophobia out of me. She has put me in some spots that really made me uncomfortable, no forced bi or anything resembling it was involved, and my mind has been enlightened.

MichaelGA, open your mind up a bit. Don't let something some assclowns have said or done to you in the past prejudice you against all men (jocks in particular). As a former HS football player I extend to you the hand of friendship.

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RE: Is bisexuality part of being submissive??? - 2/19/2006 7:28:11 AM

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No, it is definitely not a requirement. Infact many submissives are opposed to same-sex encounters and list them as a hard limit.

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I have had sex with a woman and I might again. I still don't think I would consider myself bisexual. For me, I think of being bi meaning you have feelings other then just sexual for the opposite sex and for me that simply isn't the case.

I tend to agree with your opinion. I find women to be beautiful, wonderful creatures, but I could never have any sort of romantic partnership with them. The only reason I'd ever fool around with a women would be to please my partner. Not that I find the idea disgusting, but just because I doubt I'd ever come upon the situation on my own.

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RE: Is bisexuality part of being submissive??? - 2/19/2006 7:48:14 AM

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i agree with that, Sir as i don't consider martial arts as a sport, but a life-long philosophy, a wellness activity and a form of self-defense.

i just get tired of going out in public, especially after some sporting event that occured on TV or whatnot, and being asked by people, mostly men, "Did you catch the game last night?" or "Who's your favorite team?"

now, honestly, how many ladies out there have to contend with this?

and, to clear things up just a little more, if i WERE female, i still wouldn't have much want, need or desire to be around men. hopefully this will clear up the homophobic issue.

something else on this last issue i must say before moving on.

i love to cook, sew, shop, watch soaps and some "chick-flix" and this has caused a few people, mostly male, to take it upon themselves, to lable me as gay...this upsets me to no end. i hope this clears it all up for everyone.

Bravo michael... For the record, I never figured you as gay. I have enjoyed team sports and have a passion for American Football (Fanatic Dallas Cowboy follower) as well as both codes of rugby and cricket (especially when be beat the Poms or Kiwis). However I tend to use a comment about sport as an opener amongst guys unless i know it isn't their thing. I tend to have an aversion to soaps but will watch Vampyre movies at the drop of the hat. Shopping is fum especially with Neets unless it's at a hardwaer store where I drool over tools and fun stuff. When I get off my arse I can prepare Gourmet weals or savagely burn steak in the BBQ. All my medieval and Pagan clothes are hand sewn by me (Lodge Gear is custom made). before I left home my parents ensured i could iron and repair my own cloths as well as being familiar with a sowing machine. The only person who has ever ironed my uniforms is me. I see you as pretty well versed in self care and well rounded out.... You mate have my support. (No, not supporter i.e jockstrap)

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RE: Is bisexuality part of being submissive??? - 2/19/2006 7:51:25 AM

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What's really amusing is that more gays of my acquaintance than straight men don't care for organized sports. By his present statement (and a number of others) he's made himself sound as if he'd fit in to many of the gay groups I know.

i would rather be with a group of ladies.

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