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RE: feeling owned without a collar???? - 7/2/2009 1:20:07 PM   
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ORIGINAL: vinylchick42

does it mean i have been 'owned' if my mind swarms of thoughts of the Dom literly all day long?  or when i hear his ring tone on my phone and it causes an instant automatic rush of wetness in my panties? also making my heart race like a young girl on her first date. even after months of being with him, he still makes my palms sweat with giddy nervousness and excitement.

are these some feelings of being 'owned'?


Sounds more like sub frenzy mixed with new relationship energy.

He called earlier and my panties didn't get wet. But after 7 years in, most times his calls are about more mundane issues.

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RE: feeling owned without a collar???? - 7/3/2009 1:41:48 AM   
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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

someone told me long, long ago

the collar is worn within long before it is ever placed around your pretty neck.

the physical collar just removes all doubt

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A collar is merely an adornment, a physical representation of the spiritual and heart bond that endures longer than leather or steel. i am sure that once i am in the US, the feeling of His collar around my neck will reinforce to me, every second of every day, my absolute devotion to serving Him and my commitment to Him. i however, do not NEED a collar while i am still in New Zealand, in order to feel this love for Him, and He knows what is in my heart, He knows my complete loyalty to Him, we both know without beyond any doubt that, even in another continent, He is everything to me. He knows what i am about to say before i say it, He knows what i am feeling without me having to say a word. Those are the binds that cannot be broken.

But yes, i do long for the moment when He decides to make His ownership of me official as my Master.

k. ( three more weeks left before i leave for Pennsylvania!! i am counting the days and hours)

< Message edited by KateyCaine -- 7/3/2009 1:43:46 AM >


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RE: feeling owned without a collar???? - 7/3/2009 2:48:09 AM   
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I think they are feelings of being infatuated or even in love...
About ownership of eachother i remain in favour of a wedding certificate above any piece of jewellery or pet wear...though they are very nice too

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RE: feeling owned without a collar???? - 7/3/2009 4:44:29 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: vinylchick42

being fairly new to the wonderful world of BDSM i am curious as to what it means to be owned without the obvious physical collaring of someone.  does it mean i have been 'owned' if my mind swarms of thoughts of the Dom literly all day long?  or when i hear his ring tone on my phone and it causes an instant automatic rush of wetness in my panties? also making my heart race like a young girl on her first date. even after months of being with him, he still makes my palms sweat with giddy nervousness and excitement.

are these some feelings of being 'owned'?


You know the centuries-old saying, "Trust in God, but lock your car?" ;)

I almost never "trust my heart" about matters of import because my heart happens to sit in a souped-up muscle car pulled by the eight wild cylinders of broad imagination. So while I can usually "trust" (due largely to the exciting sensation of wind on my face and the observation of smashed bugs on the windshield) that I'm going somewhere, and pretty fast, I don't always get the destination right, or even close to right.

All 'gita metaphor aside, if he tells you that you are owned and you also feel this way...then you might very well be owned! At least you're likely to feel a lot more certain about this than if it was just you believing it and he never uttered the words "you're mine."

Then again, anyone can say or think any words. It takes time and experiences that do not contradict your feelings for a reality and the certainty it brings to sink in. That, and as someone else mentioned, times of trial, will tell you who's who and what's what. If during a time of difficulty you want to leave with all your heart and you cannot, you'll have as much certainty as you can get that, at least on your end of things, you are owned.

Never forget ownership isn't something a slave does, it's what a master does, and no matter how strong your feelings or how much you want this condition, you can't exactly impose ownership on yourself. You're only owned as long as he or she says (or shows you without words) that you are. That sounds kind of threatening or gloomy. I don't mean it that way. It's just a fact, an intergal part of being in a relationship where someone else calls the shots.

PS: Oh yeah, the collar. I agree with other posters who have said it's a symbol, not the thing itself. In this case, collars are like words: in most circumstances they can communicate a reality but they cannot create one.

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RE: feeling owned without a collar???? - 7/4/2009 5:40:18 AM   
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your description doesn't sound like being owned to me; more like still in the honeymoon stage of the relationship. enjoy it while it lasts.

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RE: feeling owned without a collar???? - 7/4/2009 4:55:57 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: vinylchick42

being fairly new to the wonderful world of BDSM i am curious as to what it means to be owned without the obvious physical collaring of someone.  does it mean i have been 'owned' if my mind swarms of thoughts of the Dom literly all day long?  or when i hear his ring tone on my phone and it causes an instant automatic rush of wetness in my panties? also making my heart race like a young girl on her first date. even after months of being with him, he still makes my palms sweat with giddy nervousness and excitement.

are these some feelings of being 'owned'?


As my Dad would say; "You're just in heat".
being owned is purely a mental state and a collar has nothing to do with being owned.

My .02 worth


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RE: feeling owned without a collar???? - 7/5/2009 5:24:38 AM   
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I am a handsome athletic 28 yr old guy in Leicester. I am submissive and looking for a Dominant Girl of any age to worship.

I am looking for Girls who will force me to do what they say..

In the past i have been told to Worship Feet, Sniff Socks, Carry Shopping, Had my face sat on, been farted on and used as a Footstool after her working day.

I am available to do anything in private.

07529497559


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RE: feeling owned without a collar???? - 7/7/2009 6:29:54 PM   
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ORIGINAL: maia09

quote:

ORIGINAL: vinylchick42

being fairly new to the wonderful world of BDSM i am curious as to what it means to be owned without the obvious physical collaring of someone.  does it mean i have been 'owned' if my mind swarms of thoughts of the Dom literly all day long?  or when i hear his ring tone on my phone and it causes an instant automatic rush of wetness in my panties? also making my heart race like a young girl on her first date. even after months of being with him, he still makes my palms sweat with giddy nervousness and excitement.

are these some feelings of being 'owned'?


Well my take on it is yes, you are owned alright, but i'm not sure if it's by your Dom or your own reactions to him. So what happens if the day comes and you don't feel giddy nervousness, excitement, sweaty palms and an automatic rush of wetness in your panties? Then what - are you then not owned? This kind of ties in a little with another thread about subs knowing or not what they're asking. Lust and excitement are oh so fun, but for me, ownership entails a great deal more. The physical collar is not the significant factor, nor do i believe the things you've mentioned. But then i have to say - being owned is probably just as much a personal perception as anything else.  Too often subs and slaves rush into a "ownership" relationship because of the feelings they have and what they get - not because they have a strong desire to give to the Dominant. It's a tricky thing.



I absolutely agree! I have someone asking me constantly if I understand what I am asking and explaining to me what things like a collar mean for him. We converse very regularly on these matters. I have actually been forced to slow down when it was needed and had the heat turned up when I was I thought I was doing such a peachy job. It can be a real pain in the rear to be with someone who actually cares about you and wants you to enter into such a thing knowingly, willingly, and still want it just the same. There are parts of this that scare me, that are not going to be "the fun part", that I downright don't like, but they are not dealbreakers. To me, a collar is rather meaningless if it doesn't carry some difficult sacrifices.

I can have all the fluffy bunny feelings I want. It is when I am standing in the stark reality of what it actually means that any of it matters. Either I faulter and show that my submission runs only surface deep, or I take the plunge and put action to those words like trust, respect, obedience.

A great example of this happened about two months ago for me. I didn't want to do something. I was told plainly it WOULD happen. As much as I didn't want to talk about why I didn't want to do this thing (required reliving some horribly painful stuff from my past), I did so anyway knowing full well I would still have to go through with the act I was begging to not have to do. He understood and knew better how to support me through the whole ordeal, but, yes, the time came and I had to either do or die. It was awful. It was wonderful. I am glad I did it. I can't say every time something similar has come up, I've done so well, but I am ever trying to be able to take that next step and the next.

That's where the good emotions come from. Knowing we've both been tested and tried time and again and still our bond is true and even stronger than ever. He says it's so. I say it's so. It is so. The collar will come in time and will be a very special formal announcement of what we already know to be true. We have invested and continue to do so to see to it that this collar will be worth far more than the adornment around my neck. It will be a big and very special occassion. For now, I will just wear it in my heart.

lovingpet

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RE: feeling owned without a collar???? - 7/8/2009 1:48:22 PM   
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Gee these things would all indicte that I am owned without a collar, but I'm the dom, is that possible?

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RE: feeling owned without a collar???? - 7/8/2009 2:18:06 PM   
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ORIGINAL: overfiend

Gee these things would all indicte that I am owned without a collar, but I'm the dom, is that possible?


Nahhhh!!!! It just means you might actually have found a subling you would like to keep around for a long long time.

lovingpet

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RE: feeling owned without a collar???? - 7/8/2009 6:36:30 PM   
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Well said Iron Bear.

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RE: feeling owned without a collar???? - 7/10/2009 9:56:23 AM   
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ORIGINAL: vinylchick42

being fairly new to the wonderful world of BDSM i am curious as to what it means to be owned without the obvious physical collaring of someone.  does it mean i have been 'owned' if my mind swarms of thoughts of the Dom literly all day long?  or when i hear his ring tone on my phone and it causes an instant automatic rush of wetness in my panties? also making my heart race like a young girl on her first date. even after months of being with him, he still makes my palms sweat with giddy nervousness and excitement.

are these some feelings of being 'owned'?


NO!  This sounds so silly to me... no I am not making fun of you as you say you are new.
I am Sir's owned Property.  It is something I know and feel deep in my mind, heart and spirit.
I belong to Sir just as my dogs belong to me.  They obey me, they rely on my for every need (altho Sir expects me to be capable of this), I protect them, I take responsiblity for them, I care for them, they are companions and they empathize with my feelings.
 
I do NOT wear a collar or outside symbol of my ownership.  In my heart, soul and mind the knowledge is enough for me.
 
 
 

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