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ishyB -> RE: Is it wrong to receive what you give? (7/5/2009 9:42:22 AM)

Greetings sgs,

I think it's more complicated than that, because he does care about and acknowledges my need -my need to be owned that is.
It's more the case that he understands that my needs are different then those of most other people.
I need him to own me, he fulfills that need, and he understands that fulfill that need in me, he has to place his desires over the needs of my emotional of physical well-being. That doesn't mean he doesn't care about my emotional of physical well-being. And thus it doesn't mean that he doesn't care about my needs. It's just that he understands that in order to fulfill my most important need -to be owned- he has to place his own desires over my secondary needs.
Truly not caring about my needs would be counter-productive to him, because it would render him with a slave incapable or unwilling to serve. He just doesn't let any of my needs dictate anything he does or does not do, because he knows that that would destroy the whole foundation on which our relationship is build.

I wish you well,

ishy



slaveluci -> RE: Is it wrong to receive what you give? (7/5/2009 2:21:28 PM)


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ORIGINAL: ishyB


Greetings luci,

You are right of course, my expectation that he keeps me only on his own terms is being met... If not, I'd walk in a heartbeat.
Basically I guess I have the expectation that he does not take my expectations into consideration in any way.
Wait.... so by doing that he's doing the opposite? See now what you have done, you're confusing me. [8D]

I guess what I'm trying to say is that I do not have expectation as to how he fills in what slavery means to him. He can keep me as a spoiled princess if he likes, or chained, naked, half-starved and sleeping on wet concrete... It's his choice, and with neither I would feel like my expectations weren't being met, simple because the only thing I expect is that he makes that choice.

I wish you well,

ishy

Understood and very well put, ishy[:)]. You do your owner proud...........luci



sweetgirlserves -> RE: Is it wrong to receive what you give? (7/5/2009 2:58:34 PM)

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He just doesn't let any of my needs dictate anything he does or does not do, because he knows that that would destroy the whole foundation on which our relationship is build.


Greetings ishy,
Yes ishy, i agree with what you've stated... much more precise than the way i phrased it.   


I would like to add, relating to the op and what we've been talking about... is the need to be valued.  My thinking is that, a slavegirl may not want her needs to dictate what her Master does or doesn't do... but in her obedience to his choices for her, she does need to be made to feel valued.   Perhaps she is not shown it in the way she would prefer, again, that is for him to determine, but in some way, i think it is imperative that she is in fact shown it... or it can get pretty depressing pretty quickly. 

~sgs



DesFIP -> RE: Is it wrong to receive what you give? (7/5/2009 5:43:12 PM)

There is nothing wrong with you needing a different relationship than you now have.
Question: Did he tell you ahead of time that this is what you would be getting or did he lie to you?

If you knew what you were getting into, and also knew yourself well enough to know you would be unhappy like this, then why did you enter into the relationship?

If he lied to you about it, and waited until you were stuck - well then time to leave and immediately.

I'd stop submitting to someone who couldn't be bothered to visit me in the hospital though. Everybody hates hospitals, but decent people who claim to care deeply about someone show up, hating it or not.

What I would do is talk to the people who own the house, explain you're saving money to leave, and ask them what the rent is. And ask for a room of your own to rent. Put a lock on the door, put all your money in the bank, change the bank password, change all your passwords. Make this a strictly business arrangement with the house owners, he has nothing to do with it. And as soon as you can leave, do.



BarnacleBill -> RE: Is it wrong to receive what you give? (7/5/2009 5:48:20 PM)

To the OP good for you in getting out of there. He was not a Master in any way but just a Jerk calling himself that. Next time meet the next one in person several times before moving in. More research will save you a lot of grief next time. Take care!



Danemora -> RE: Is it wrong to receive what you give? (7/5/2009 6:21:52 PM)

     It most assuredly is not too much to ask to receive the same loyalty, dedication, love, respect, honor, and heart that you put into the relationship.  From the sound of things, it sounds like this man has some issues of his own to sort through and may not have been capable of being the type of Dominant that you need.  Thats on him, not on you.  And you definately should not take on his shortcomings as something you did wrong.




Huntertn -> RE: Is it wrong to receive what you give? (7/7/2009 9:00:52 PM)

I wish you well...he sounded super in print..but in person he's a grade "A" asshole..get out get your own place..and start again..you did everything right that I can tell..but life doesn't always mean it's fair..and what your give out should be given back tenfold Especally for a daddy dom type..Huntertn



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