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RE: Paranoia ! - 7/12/2009 1:29:57 AM   
DemonKia


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Flatterer.

Hehehe. I'm not making you paranoid, am I? LOL



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ORIGINAL: HatesParisHilton

see?  Now this Heretic fellow, I know i can trust HIM.

Whereas this Kia woman from the Demoniac Depths?

she

terrifies

me....


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RE: Paranoia ! - 7/12/2009 2:28:03 AM   
HatesParisHilton


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TERRIFIED!

But I love rollercoaters!

and Hammer Horror Films!

YOU are the "right kinda paranoid!"



/insert mega filmic-nerd glasses emoticon here

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RE: Paranoia ! - 7/12/2009 5:33:50 AM   
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I've got too much of a stoner mentality to be paranoid.

I just expect people to be people. That is usually a lot of bad with the good, selfishness with generosity, weaknesses with strengths, etc etc etc....

I don't think of any of my thoughts as paranoid, just realistic.

I am reminded of a discussion Generic Dude and I had, a long time ago. He accused me of always looking for the worst in people, of being too quick to judge. I told him the biggest difference between he and I is that I already know the good exists, but I need to find out the worst so that I will be prepared for it, expect it, be realistic. He only looks for the good but is paranoid about the worst when it peeks out and gets all freaked out. I've already seen it, so was prepared to deal with it. Doesn't make me care less about them, think less of them, I already saw it. He cannot handle the betrayal, as he sees it.

He will befriend a person with a reputation for shady dealings, expecting that somehow they will treat him differently than they've treated others. Then will feel horribly betrayed when they don't. I may befriend the same person, but with caution, not giving them the opportunity to screw me over, knowing that they will always be the same person, regardless of company and circumstance. And never experience the let down, knowing I willingly took any risk.

Fictional example: Aquaintance Fred asks to borrow $50.00. GD would not have it to spare but would struggle saying no, so would give Fred the $50.00, with a promise of getting it back the following week when he was really going to need it. Then would be upset when Fred began avoiding him, and never paid him back.

Fred asks me to borrow $50.00. I don't have it to spare, so tell him sorry but no, I can't, and forget about it. The relationship may become less friendly but it wasn't that important if it hinged on $50.00 anyway. OR, I do have it to spare, give Fred the $50.00 and forget about it. Fred never pays me back, but then I never expected him to so I am not bothered by it. He may mention it a few times when we bump into each other, and I tell him not to worry about it.

I expect people to be themselves, whatever that is. I watch people, listen to them, read them. Do their actions match up with their words? Does their body language? I can tell more about a person, after watching them for an hour (usually much less but...)at a gathering, than a year's worth of pretty emails and chatting. Granted, I can always pick up a vibe through written word, but not always what that vibe means. Watching them will usually fill in the blanks pretty quickly.

If expecting people to behave like human beings is paranoid, then count me in. And I wouldn't change it for a minute.

< Message edited by LaTigresse -- 7/12/2009 5:36:04 AM >


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RE: Paranoia ! - 7/12/2009 7:55:45 AM   
subtlebutterfly


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agreeing with tiger.. as usual...live n let live yanno. I don't think I've ever had a reason to be paranoid, and I often wonder if there really is a reason for being so, I used to when I was younger..but meh now I just don't really see the point.
Paranoia doesn't do you any good and it sure as hell doesn't help you either.
In my opinion paranoia strips you of every little sense you had in that brain of yours..so I wonder, is it really worth it.


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RE: Paranoia ! - 7/12/2009 11:17:44 AM   
TheHeretic


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quote:

ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

I've got too much of a stoner mentality to be paranoid.

I just expect people to be people. That is usually a lot of bad with the good, selfishness with generosity, weaknesses with strengths, etc etc etc....

I don't think of any of my thoughts as paranoid, just realistic.

I am reminded of a discussion Generic Dude and I had, a long time ago. He accused me of always looking for the worst in people, of being too quick to judge. I told him the biggest difference between he and I is that I already know the good exists, but I need to find out the worst so that I will be prepared for it, expect it, be realistic. He only looks for the good but is paranoid about the worst when it peeks out and gets all freaked out. I've already seen it, so was prepared to deal with it. Doesn't make me care less about them, think less of them, I already saw it. He cannot handle the betrayal, as he sees it.

He will befriend a person with a reputation for shady dealings, expecting that somehow they will treat him differently than they've treated others. Then will feel horribly betrayed when they don't. I may befriend the same person, but with caution, not giving them the opportunity to screw me over, knowing that they will always be the same person, regardless of company and circumstance. And never experience the let down, knowing I willingly took any risk.

Fictional example: Aquaintance Fred asks to borrow $50.00. GD would not have it to spare but would struggle saying no, so would give Fred the $50.00, with a promise of getting it back the following week when he was really going to need it. Then would be upset when Fred began avoiding him, and never paid him back.

Fred asks me to borrow $50.00. I don't have it to spare, so tell him sorry but no, I can't, and forget about it. The relationship may become less friendly but it wasn't that important if it hinged on $50.00 anyway. OR, I do have it to spare, give Fred the $50.00 and forget about it. Fred never pays me back, but then I never expected him to so I am not bothered by it. He may mention it a few times when we bump into each other, and I tell him not to worry about it.

I expect people to be themselves, whatever that is. I watch people, listen to them, read them. Do their actions match up with their words? Does their body language? I can tell more about a person, after watching them for an hour (usually much less but...)at a gathering, than a year's worth of pretty emails and chatting. Granted, I can always pick up a vibe through written word, but not always what that vibe means. Watching them will usually fill in the blanks pretty quickly.

If expecting people to behave like human beings is paranoid, then count me in. And I wouldn't change it for a minute.



       This is a very wise woman talking here.

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RE: Paranoia ! - 7/12/2009 12:39:00 PM   
MarsBonfire


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This is why I actually like the Michael Moore film "Bowling for Columbine" Most people think it's just Moore's rant against gun culture, but it's not. No more than "Feild of Dreams is about building a baseball feild on your farm...  Why he really talks about, and that I really agree with, is that the media in this country use fear to gain ratings, or sell papers. Because of that, we as Americans have this incredibly off balance view of our fellow citizens... like we're all out to kill each other.

After watching it, I began to randomly track newscasts... how many of the stories being reported are about things we should fear? How many of them are focused on minor crimes of african americans? About products that have been found to be deadly? That sort of thing....

I'm beginning to think that if they could make the birthday announcements into some kind of terrorist threat, they would.

Paranoia is a mental disease, sure.

But even paranoids have enemies.

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RE: Paranoia ! - 7/12/2009 1:35:27 PM   
JonnieBoy


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quote:

ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

One can think themself into a box.



It's more positive to think yourself out of one of those, I think.

Pirate

(excuse my lack of paranoia but it was reading threads like this that got me spied on and now I have learned better ... people are nosey, but we can live outside of boxes ... )


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RE: Paranoia ! - 7/14/2009 9:33:29 AM   
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In ancient times, a man always walked with his lady on the inside of the curb, he being on the outside. Why, ...because should there be an attacker, the attack would come from the inside, the attacker luking in the shadows of a doorway or alleyway. The man, being on the open curbside, has a chance to 'run away'.....leaving his lady as the blocker, or the first to get hit.

The lady always goes through the door first, as her gentleman holds it open for her. Why? There may be an attacker on the other side of the door, the 'lady' gets the stab first, and gives the 'gentleman' time to run away.

Fear is a driving force, which can be manipulated through a clever use of paranoia. The media created the 'Terrorist' fear, the paranoia which paralysed the capacity of rational thought of the masses; manipulated the fear, soas to direct the behavior of the masses to a preodained agenda.

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