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What happened to the news? - 7/10/2009 3:37:49 PM   
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Status: offline 		I am sure most people are happy that all the Michael Jackson coverage is dying down. I had no problem at all with the entertainment shows covering him non-stop. That is really what they are for. But news organizations should be covering news. Where have the real journalist went to? The ones that don't believe shit the government says and digs through all the reports and numbers they give looking for the truth. It seems that today The big major news channels report the stories and everybody else just parrots it. Same with local news. They cover the exact same stories with a little local news thrown in.

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RE: What happened to the news? - 7/10/2009 9:33:29 PM   
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RE: What happened to the news? - 7/10/2009 10:35:13 PM   
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Status: offline 		Actual journalists and actual news is still alive and well, just not on any of the major/joke news outlets. NPR radio is an excellent, and unfortunately one of the last, bastions for actual in-depth news.

I lost what very very little respect I had for the major news outlets after Anna Nicole died. My god, a creature that deserves exactly 0% of the attention she got clogging the news for days and days and days. As Bill Maher eloquently put it when re-capping some actual news stories, "You probably didn't hear about it, because the media was too busy covering UTTER BULLSHIT."

I can at least understand why Michael Jackson got the attention he got, and he definitely deserved it. A man in the Guinness World Records for charity contributions deserves at least that.

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RE: What happened to the news? - 7/10/2009 10:48:35 PM   
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Status: offline 		      The profession of journalism went from being about, "getting the story," to being about "making a difference."  It got filled up with young idealists who were going to change the world.  At best, the simple story is told from a limited perspective, at worse, their bias clouds their judgement, at worst...  Does it get much worse than Dan Rather going to air, on the the CBS evening news, with blatantly forged documents in an attempt to affect the outcome of a Presidential election??? 

       I don't think there should be a discussion of journalism that doesn't include a mention of that for at least 50 years.  Maybe 100.

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RE: What happened to the news? - 7/11/2009 12:58:46 AM   
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It died when the idea of "infotainment" came about.


It's sad. They won't cover the major. And instead cover the trivial. And argue over it as though it was major.

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RE: What happened to the news? - 7/11/2009 1:02:57 AM   
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     The profession of journalism went from being about, "getting the story," to being about "making a difference."  It got filled up with young idealists who were going to change the world.  At best, the simple story is told from a limited perspective, at worse, their bias clouds their judgement, at worst...  Does it get much worse than Dan Rather going to air, on the the CBS evening news, with blatantly forged documents in an attempt to affect the outcome of a Presidential election??? 

      I don't think there should be a discussion of journalism that doesn't include a mention of that for at least 50 years.  Maybe 100.


These days you half expect the media and government to get together in a smoky... scratch that... hepa filtered room and decide what to tell us this week.

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RE: What happened to the news? - 7/11/2009 6:06:51 AM   
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Status: offline 		In my case I turn it off.  But when I talk to people- I am asked "what do you think".

Never ask me that question!!!   hehehe

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RE: What happened to the news? - 7/11/2009 6:21:22 AM   
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Status: offline 		different times of day yield different newscasts.

but the same companies own the studios that run news and the studios that run Idol.  the ratings decide, and lower budget decides (hence the constant whoring of same footage from Reuters).
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RE: What happened to the news? - 7/11/2009 6:23:37 AM   
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That's what I get for mocking mass media...


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RE: What happened to the news? - 7/11/2009 9:31:41 AM   
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Status: offline 		I watched CNN late last night for about an hour. They covered a couple of touristy snippets of an old slaver fort that Obama will visit tomorrow (2 times, about 3 minutes each time), and one brief mention of Florida police searching for 3 guys who forced their way into a house and killed 2 people ( 1 minute).

The remainder of the time, roughly 23 minutes, they focused on friggin Wacko, what his health was like before his death (who the fuck cares, he kicked the bucket so he obviously wasn't in tip-top shape), if he was on drugs (What??? A celebrity on drugs?? Tell me it ain't so! I mean is anybody really surprised that a washed-up has-been pop star was addicted to drugs? Myself I would have been surprised if he wasn't, and am inclined to believe the stories about track marks on his arms), and coverage of the custody hearings regarding his children (again, who the fuck cares! They are going to be rich and messed up in the head no matter who gets custody of them). Now you do the math, in an hour of broadcasting, CNN spent all of 1 minute covering what could be called actual "news".



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RE: What happened to the news? - 7/11/2009 8:11:01 PM   
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Status: offline 		As they say...money talks...money is all that is important now... And it is our own fault...These same networks spend millions surveying our watching habits and wants. They know most idiot people love the crap on TV...soooo we can't really bitch at them... They are only giving what the majority wants.

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RE: What happened to the news? - 7/12/2009 12:05:48 AM   
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RE: What happened to the news? - 7/12/2009 12:19:15 AM   
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RE: What happened to the news? - 7/12/2009 5:46:55 AM   
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Status: offline 		What repulses me is how all the cable news networks no longer report information and instead host panel after panel of "experts" to discuss or debate what they think will happen next, what something that has happened means or meant, and make further speculations on what's to come. It's not news anymore. And of course the disproportionate attention to crap. Quality is not part of their agenda...ever.

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RE: What happened to the news? - 7/12/2009 12:28:50 PM   
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Status: offline 		anthrosub, yeah I agree. Those talking heads like Hannity, O'Riley and Beck are the worst. They should be fired.

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RE: What happened to the news? - 7/12/2009 12:55:16 PM   
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Status: offline 		It isn't just Fox that is the problem, it is all the major news networks with the possible exceptions of the CBC (some of the time) and the BBC (most of the time). They all fill the hours with inane babble and "analysis". Since when did we need some self-proclaimed expert to analise everything for us, have we lost the ability to think for ourselves, do we really need some expert to tell us what to think?

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RE: What happened to the news? - 7/12/2009 12:59:57 PM   
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It isn't just Fox that is the problem, it is all the major news networks with the possible exceptions of the CBC (some of the time) and the BBC (most of the time). They all fill the hours with inane babble and "analysis". Since when did we need some self-proclaimed expert to analise everything for us, have we lost the ability to think for ourselves, do we really need some expert to tell us what to think?


The more that people listen to them; and the more that people stop thinking for themselves; the more the answer becomes yes.

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RE: What happened to the news? - 7/12/2009 1:02:29 PM   
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Status: offline 		I fear you are correct blacksword, and that is both frightening and disheartening.

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RE: What happened to the news? - 7/14/2009 9:59:13 AM   
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Status: offline 		Research who owns the various news networks, see their political association, then decipher what the agenda is.

Years ago, there was 'The Donahue/Posner show'; on some minor market network. Phil Donahue, and Vadimir Posner; both educated, intelligent men; and they put forward the 'hard questions. Their show started out with just so so ratings, the topics were seriously debated, and the popularity grew. They became very controversal. Their ratings were beginning to soar. People seem to be hungry for information.

The network was bought by a right wing billionaire, and the intelligence was promptly replaced with the mundain, infotainment type of programing, gone was anything even slightly informative. Donahue/Posner is not even an ancient memory.

The media manipulates, simple as that.


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RE: What happened to the news? - 7/14/2009 4:16:16 PM   
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