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ORIGINAL: BossyShoeBitch

Bella,
Good for you that you do not tolerate screaming brats in public.
You can give me as many POINTED LOOKS as you care to. I'll smile and wave back.
However, if you were to walk up to me at said public venue (where by the way,I TOO am paying for a service or product) , and have the utter gall to try and tell me to "cease and desist" from breast feeding because it offends you, you just may get a face full of breast milk yourself.

Uh, if you don't like it, GETTHEFUCKOUT!
Who died and declared YOUR RIGHTS more important than mine?

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ORIGINAL: CallaFirestormBW

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My Point is to bring up the Hypocricy of the situation. If it is okay for a Baby to feed on her mothers Breasts why then should it be wrong for a Dom to have a Lactating slave put breast milk in his coffee? Is the same purpose not being met?

Um... I don't think it's the same thing... not the same thing unless, by some freak of nature the Dom is an infant. Breasts are biologically for the feeding of infant offspring, and the process of public nursing is the -normal- use for mammary glands. Having fun with them is cool, but you can't exactly call it a biological necessity. Having Daddy Warbucks get a squirt in his coffee from his fancysub across the table at home -- now that's fun... but in a restaurant... see to me, that is just rude... Like pooping in the living-room.

DC

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ORIGINAL: ladyofthecastle


I would certainly not agree with having a sub on the ground crawling after someone walking them by a leash. 



~Lady Ann~

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Who died and declared YOUR RIGHTS more important than mine?

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ORIGINAL: Esinn

How do you feel about the fact rated "G"/PG  public play or 'pride' of your passion would most likely have you socially marginalized? 

Still a long way off in most towns but I think society is pushing closer to the point where it is acceptable to see F/F or M/M couples show affection for each other compared to the distant past.

• Partner on leash
• Playful but firm spanking
• Gagged
• Partner following behind in an obvious submissive posture
• Putting a well written and tasteful flyer next to another in a store window
  
• Pro Dom leaving a business card with others

Parents discipline children publicly.  Obviously people dress themselves to attract attention or call attention to this or that.  Tasteful breast feeding is allowed.  Go to any college town 'slutty' attire is always accepted.

I am not sure how I feel about it.

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ORIGINAL: NihilusZero

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ORIGINAL: BossyShoeBitch

If it were commonplace that would be different.

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ORIGINAL: BossyShoeBitch

It's just that if they were exposed to a couple in public behaving in a sexual way (someone's hand(s) on another's breasts, for example) that would essentially force me into a situation where I have to discuss a very sensitive topic with them without being able to prepare myself, that would just fucking piss me off.

I've intentionally quoted two separate snippets of your last post to try and tie an idea together (so if you feel they're being used out of context in this way, do let me know).

So...based on the two excerpts, are we really just saying that the reason a topic is "sensitive" (thereby making it something that would piss you off to have to discuss unprepared) pretty much simply based on the fact that it's not "commonplace"?

I mean...it's one thing to understand the silliness of it and still admit that (as human creatures of habit and folly) we still act and react according to our geocultural customs, but, at the same time, we know the disparity between the common and uncommon is silly.

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if it were commonplace that would be different.

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ORIGINAL: justme1980
Now I may wear kink attire, I may look like a slut, I may wear a collar or chains and cuffs I may eat out of a dog bowl but I am within my own space when I enter that booth. I do not look at other patrons and I do not force them to look at me. I am not looking to make a specticule of myself.

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I think that if the vanilla populas was actually shown what we do, see that we educate, that we practice ssc so that we may be viewed in a different light

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Right now they really don't know much about us, or when they do, it is associated with something evil. I beleve they might think is that all we do whip one another until we bleed. I believe they need to be given an opportunity to see that isn't true

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ORIGINAL: justme1980



I may wear a collar or chains and cuffs I may eat out of a dog bowl but I am within my own space when I enter that booth. I do not look at other patrons and I do not force them to look at me. I am not looking to make a specticule of myself. I do not care enough about other patrons to waste my time, energy and emotions to schock, embarrass , or otherwise annoy.

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ORIGINAL: susie

Do you really think that eating out of a dog bowl in a restaurant is not making a spectacle of yourself?

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ORIGINAL: NihilusZero

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ORIGINAL: susie

Do you really think that eating out of a dog bowl in a restaurant is not making a spectacle of yourself?

If an individual eats out of a dog bowl in a restaurant and no one is there to see it, is it a "spectacle"?

As weird and awkward as that would be, it is only in the perception of the act that the "spectacle" exists.

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In other words, you want little people, who have not matured, to have common consideration for you.  Yet, as an adult, you are not willing to respond in kind to someone who might find your actions, just as irritating.

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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

The problem that I'm having with some of this is that while so many are rallying about expressions within a D/s dynamic, some of these have little, if anything, to do with it.

I have no idea of what the ratio of goth folks wearing collars and leashes in public is in respect to those who attach something related to BDSM.

Various forms of humiliation, such as the one I posted earlier, are grouped under that category for a reason.

So many on this thread have gone on about their rights, but can not accept that they have the exact same rights as those of others. Especially if you are subjected to behavior of bratty little ones that intrude on your personal space. This seems to be especially apparent when it comes to your ears. (I'm not exactly disagreeing there.) Yet, there's a recurrent, underlying theme. You want them to know how to behave appropriately IN PUBLIC!

In other words, you want little people, who have not matured, to have common consideration for you. Yet, as an adult, you are not willing to respond in kind to someone who might find your actions, just as irritating.

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ORIGINAL: marie2

I think it all depends on the act.  Personally, I'm a very reserved person in public, however, I would not feel offended at things like seeing a woman breastfeeding or seeing someone being walked on a leash, even though those are things that I would never do in public.  On the other hand, seeing couples in the park being sexual and all over each other, and/or people arguing loudly would both be highly offensive to me (and even moreso if young children were around).  I wouldn't do anything to stop it, but I would certainly avoid it or get away from it if at all  possible.

I think the bottom line is to have common courtesy for fellow human beings.  Do you (generic) really HAVE to do all those acts in public?  Are you doing it to make a statement about your rights, and/or because you want the shock value and the attention it brings?  In other words would you being doing it in public if it didn't stir a reaction in others? I think these are really important questions for people to ask themselves when considering where to draw the line. 

My "right" to do a, b and c in public is secondary to my inclination to remain considerate of other people.  It really isn't that tough to go through life using a little bit of common sense and a little bit of descretion when necessary. 

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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

Isn't the very definition of the word something that is viewed?

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ORIGINAL: marie2

In other words would you being doing it in public if it didn't stir a reaction in others?

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ORIGINAL: marie2

My "right" to do a, b and c in public is secondary to my inclination to remain considerate of other people.

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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

The problem that I'm having with some of this is that while so many are rallying about expressions within a D/s dynamic, some of these have little, if anything, to do with it.

I have no idea of what the ratio of goth folks wearing collars and leashes in public is in respect to those who attach something related to BDSM.

Various forms of humiliation, such as the one I posted earlier, are grouped under that category for a reason.

So many on this thread have gone on about their rights, but can not accept that they have the exact same rights as those of others.  Especially if you are subjected to behavior of bratty little ones that intrude on your personal space.  This seems to be especially apparent when it comes to your ears.  (I'm not exactly disagreeing there.)  Yet, there's a recurrent, underlying theme.  You want them to know how to behave appropriately IN PUBLIC!

In other words, you want little people, who have not matured, to have common consideration for you.  Yet, as an adult, you are not willing to respond in kind to someone who might find your actions, just as irritating.

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ORIGINAL: NihilusZero

For instance, I'm prone to think the freedom to be verbally obscene in public is not some personal facet that the individual really feels is part of their inner self that they should feel free to live out (I could be wrong), but things like slavekal's riding his Lady around in a rickshaw appear to be a much more beautiful reflection of something very special to them and to who they each are individually.

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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

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ORIGINAL: NihilusZero

For instance, I'm prone to think the freedom to be verbally obscene in public is not some personal facet that the individual really feels is part of their inner self that they should feel free to live out (I could be wrong), but things like slavekal's riding his Lady around in a rickshaw appear to be a much more beautiful reflection of something very special to them and to who they each are individually.

I find the rickshaw idea to be very lovely.  Still, I contend that this is another area where such a thing is not solely related to BDSM.  The human taxi idea is quite common in other countries and is linked to not only power, but wealth.  I do agree that the expression is wonderful for the two of them.