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Politesub53 -> RE: Overconfident sub and his IQ (7/12/2009 10:57:46 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SubOfPrincess Just dont answer if you have a problem bitch. Your rudeness may be why he thinks he is better than you, just a thought.

DemonKia -> RE: Overconfident sub and his IQ (7/12/2009 11:33:56 AM)
FR, after read thru snicker Here on CM, we don't feed the trolls, we play with them, like a cat with a mouse . . . . . Here, kitty kitty kitty, says the troll . . . .. . smirkles I hope & pray to find partnership with persons smarter than me . . . . . Hehehe . . .. . & definitely funnier than me . . . . . [;)] & Gypzy, the recipes are awesome, what a fabulous contribution . ... .. Now I really have to make something to eat . ... [8D]

littlesarbonn -> RE: Overconfident sub and his IQ (7/12/2009 4:29:10 PM)
I had a legitimate response to the thread, because I have been in numerous situations where there has been a concern because of intelligence (all modesty aside, I'm a pretty smart guy). I'm saddened that a thread that asked an interesting question went completely downhill because the OP decided to turn into someone with zero class and then treated honest responders with hostility.

DemonKia -> RE: Overconfident sub and his IQ (7/12/2009 5:03:57 PM)
Awwww, littlesarbonn, I know what you mean . . . . . But the OP's not the only person who's reading this . . . . Or, alternately, you could ask an earnest question in a fresh thread & we could have a real convo about this subject.

Lashra -> RE: Overconfident sub and his IQ (7/12/2009 8:37:43 PM)
He could be testing you to see what you will do. Personally if I were you, I would smile sweetly and show his smartass the door. If he has a really high IQ he will move fast so that the knob doesnt get stuck in his asshole as it closes behind him. ~Lashra

ChicoMistressL -> RE: Overconfident sub and his IQ (7/12/2009 11:25:58 PM)
Hello Sister Domme. I have a few responses to your query. First of all, good for you for asking. We must have courage to face what we don't know and reach out to our community for help. If you sub is full of himself because of his IQ, well, he has a few issues playing out there. The main one is lack of respect for your role as his Domina. subs in general are unruly and demanding and need to be reigned in by a variety of methods, not the least of which may be domestic discipline. your sub sounds like he may require rather extensive sessions with a stricter Domina than you to help him get his priorities straight. his intelligence should be used to benefit You, his Mistress and Superior, not to show off or displease you. If he is so smart, he should already know this. But that said, he is also likely testing you and needs to know you are strong enough to handle his insubordination swiftly and lovingly by whatever means fit within the negotiated boundaries of your relationship. If he were my sub, there would be corporal punishment, followed by private (and if necessary, public - meaning within our BDSM public) humiliation and correction. Sometimes, it DOES take a village to raise or in this case, break down, a sub. Lastly, I would have a system of rewards and give him frequent and very specific feedback when he is behaving more in line with Mistress' expectations. Your sub has a lot to learn, but he can learn it, if you are willing and disciplined enough yourself to teach him a better way. Good luck! You CAN love him enough to own him completely. Mistress Lena

dueceswild -> RE: Overconfident sub and his IQ (7/12/2009 11:37:49 PM)
MAYBE HE IS SMARTER AND BETTER THEN YOU. JUST BECAUSE YOUR DOMINANT DOESNT MENA THAT YOUR BETTER THEN EVERYBODY. IM WILLING TO BELIEVE HIM, SINCE YOU POSTED THIS QUESTION. THATS MY 10 CENTS, MY 2 CENTS IS FREE.

LadyPact -> RE: Overconfident sub and his IQ (7/12/2009 11:45:04 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lashra He could be testing you to see what you will do. Personally if I were you, I would smile sweetly and show his smartass the door. If he has a really high IQ he will move fast so that the knob doesnt get stuck in his asshole as it closes behind him. ~Lashra I enjoyed this comment quite a bit. LOL. The trolling aside, the question probably does have merit for future use. With that in mind, it probably does deserve an answer. I'm not especially going to address the overconfident part. That sounds more like a sub who needs to be knocked down a peg or two to realize who is in charge. The different levels of intelligence between D and s probably has merit. I have no issue with the potential that one of My boys might have a higher IQ. I've often said on these boards that clip is probably more intelligent than I am. Even if it is not higher IQ, the boy certainly has more knowledge in certain areas than I do. The thing is, I'm not intimidated by it. A number of years ago, I had someone who would take every direction that I gave, even though he was far superior in intellect. While he might have had an advantage over Me in this area, there were other areas of strength that I had over him as well. I absolutely had the stronger will and the greater resolve. I had the greater sense of sexual adventure that he could not find without someone leading the way. That gave Me power over him. By using that power properly, I controlled him, greater mental capacity or not.

realtuffdom -> RE: Overconfident sub and his IQ (7/13/2009 1:18:43 AM)
For some reason I can't figure out, all of my submissives are much smarter than me. I don't know how I attract such intelligent women, but it seems that almost every woman I come in contact with is much, much smarter than me. I used to attribute this to my ability to always find more intelligent people than me in my immediate surroundings. I have a rare gift of being able to walk into almost any crowd and within moments, I will find almost everyone to be more intelligent than I am. I don't know if the dumber people just realize they need to leave, or what. It just keeps happening. A good example was yesterday when I went to Target to buy a toothbrush. I was there in the line, and I could have sworn there was a woman standing there who was not as smart as me. She saw me, and almost as if she realized what was going on, she ran from the store, pointing her fingers at me and waving her hands back and forth while calling for the local police department. I mean, normal people are not capable of doing this sort of thing because in moments, I realized that everyone at Target was smarter than me. Even the crazy guy who stands there and sniffs paint in the home decoration aisle. It never ceases to fascinate me.

MistressRouge -> RE: Overconfident sub and his IQ (7/13/2009 2:06:45 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: purepleasure I'd start with a little knife play... by cutting "stupid cunt" into his forehead before kicking his ass to the curb. Or a little lower down, and design a cunt lol [:D]

slaveboyforyou -> RE: Overconfident sub and his IQ (7/13/2009 3:55:40 AM)
FR: I never ask a potential romantic partner what their IQ is. Mine is 134, but I don't let someone know that as soon as I meet them. It's an irrelevant number when measuring relationship compatibility. I won't get involved with someone who is just plain dumb, but I can generally tell that much upon a first meeting. If I can't hold a conversation with someone for longer than half an hour without looking at my watch and looking for the door, I won't see them again. If I hit it off with someone; and we evolve toward a serious relationship, I'm not going to dump them or ridicule them if I find out their IQ is lower than mine. Only a prick would do that. By the way, I am making a general comment. I'm not addressing the OP, who obviously is a little boy with inferiority issues. I imagine he's been rejected a lot and is deluding himself into believing it's because he's too smart for them.

PeonForHer -> RE: Overconfident sub and his IQ (7/13/2009 4:27:00 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: littlesarbonn I had a legitimate response to the thread, because I have been in numerous situations where there has been a concern because of intelligence (all modesty aside, I'm a pretty smart guy). I'm saddened that a thread that asked an interesting question went completely downhill because the OP decided to turn into someone with zero class and then treated honest responders with hostility. I can relate to that, littlesarbonn. I can also relate to you more than you might think - because you and I both got trained in the same field and to the same level. OK, I shall be serious. I'm not usually a fan of the great deconstructionist tendency, but I am in the case of D/s. As I said earlier, a domme dominates and a sub submits because this is what both want to do. This is a simple view, but one that people can find hard to reach because they've built so many rationalisations on top of it. They want to justify their wants and desires; make them 'reasonable', 'right' and 'natural'. So, for instance, a dominant might want to say to herself "I'm right to dominate him because I'm better than him at X, Y or Z" Or a sub might say "She dominates me because Nature/Gaia/God made her a natural leader and me a follower". It's this kind of thing - stuff piled on top of the simple formula "She wants to dominate, he wants to submit" that, to me, seems to make things so difficult in D/s. Ditch it, and there are such great prizes to be won. Both sides can act normally and be themselves. She can feel free to have bad hair days and to look like a slob. He never need feel that he can't hug her when she feels like that. Yet, both being very clear that they want either to dominate or submit, and also knowing that they don't need to justify those desires or even make them 'reasonable' to themselves or their partners - means that they'll enjoy their D/s dynamics even more, as well. And as a corollary, his superior physical strength or intellectual ability (not to mention his having a dick rather than a vagina) becomes completely irrelevant.

DemonKia -> RE: Overconfident sub and his IQ (7/13/2009 12:47:34 PM)
FR, after read thru Yeah, there's this over-simplification chain that seems to unfold in some heads, sometimes, that goes something like this: so-&-so is smart, therefore they're superior, therefore they must be good with money, stronger, better, happier, healthier, morally up-&-up, prettier, fitter, 'naturally dominant', blah blah blah. It has many variants cuz any link in that chain can substitute for any other . . .. The flipside is that the lack of any link in that chain can then be used to undermine another observable attribute, my favorite form of this being: hey, you might be smart but how come you don't have tons of money, huh? Must not be so smart . ... . It's an intellectual trap I observe people fall into all the time. Jeesh, cannot see hardly any of the 'men are inherently better than women' comments that don't do this one, usually in some form of: men are physically stronger than women, thus they are superior to women, & thus they are smarter than women . . . . . There's a coupla posters on these forums who trot that one out pretty regularly, & I jus' shake my head & move on . .. . . None of that recognizes, oh, say, the machine age making physical strength kinda irrelevant for most other than athletes or similar . ... . . A chick can push a button just as well as some guy . .. . . . Okay. End of momentary rant on that subject.

sweetsub1957 -> RE: Overconfident sub and his IQ (7/13/2009 3:12:15 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lashra He could be testing you to see what you will do. Personally if I were you, I would smile sweetly and show his smartass the door. If he has a really high IQ he will move fast so that the knob doesnt get stuck in his asshole as it closes behind him. ~Lashra Oh Lashra, You had me laughing my ass off with that one!! Seriously, OP, I would make it perfectly clear to him that YOU are the Dominant in the relationship and that, even though he has his own opinions, YOU have the last word & he is expected to be obedient, to respect YOU & follow YOUR rules, and if he doesn't.......then show him the door. You have to set up rules and boundaries & make sure he doesn't cross them.....and if he does cross them, make sure there are consequences for it. Some subs feel the need to push boundaries. It's up to the Dominant to make sure they don't get away with it. I've received my share of red asses from Sir & now I know better. lol

Politesub53 -> RE: Overconfident sub and his IQ (7/13/2009 4:17:25 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: sweetsub1957 Some subs feel the need to push boundaries. It's up to the Dominant to make sure they don't get away with it. I agree with the first part but feel it is up to submissive not to push boundaries given as rules. Some obviously do that hoping to get spanked, so giving a red arse isnt always the answer. Personally if I am given rules to obey and have agreed to do so, the onus is on me to obey rather than the Domina to enforce them. If I dont do that, then I am being bratty and not submissive.

unforegvn -> RE: Overconfident sub and his IQ (7/13/2009 6:45:00 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: FullfigRIMAAM1 Unless you feel the way he does, show him the door, and never look back. Ideally, a high IQ should mean you have someone fun and interesting to date and play with... In your case, it means an *sshole trying to undermine your integrity as a human being. M Couldn't have said it better myself.... Toss him back to the sea with the rest of the fish ------------> One time owner of "159 IQ" proved to be dummer than a sack of rocks.

PeonForHer -> RE: Overconfident sub and his IQ (7/13/2009 6:50:50 PM)
None of that recognizes, oh, say, the machine age making physical strength kinda irrelevant for most other than athletes or similar . ... . . A chick can push a button just as well as some guy . .. . . . Oh really? So you have a machine whose button you can push so that it will beat me in an arm wrestle? I rest my case.

DemonKia -> RE: Overconfident sub and his IQ (7/13/2009 7:57:49 PM)
LOL shakes head Um, Peon, arm-wrestling would be an example of athletics. The example that I'm thinking of would be more like, I can drive a tractor as well as a guy. Thus his physical strength that was once necessary for steering a plow behind a draft animal is now superfluous to getting the farming done . . . . quote: ORIGINAL: PeonForHer None of that recognizes, oh, say, the machine age making physical strength kinda irrelevant for most other than athletes or similar . ... . . A chick can push a button just as well as some guy . .. . . . Oh really? So you have a machine whose button you can push so that it will beat me in an arm wrestle? I rest my case.

sweetsub1957 -> RE: Overconfident sub and his IQ (7/13/2009 10:25:32 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Politesub53 quote: ORIGINAL: sweetsub1957 Some subs feel the need to push boundaries. It's up to the Dominant to make sure they don't get away with it. I agree with the first part but feel it is up to submissive not to push boundaries given as rules. Some obviously do that hoping to get spanked, so giving a red arse isnt always the answer. Personally if I am given rules to obey and have agreed to do so, the onus is on me to obey rather than the Domina to enforce them. If I dont do that, then I am being bratty and not submissive. Politesub53, You are right. I didn't say that very well the first time. Not obeying rules is bratty and not submissive. I agree with you.

TNstepsout -> RE: Overconfident sub and his IQ (7/14/2009 5:12:12 AM)
I've been gone from the Boards for a while. Now I remember what I was missing. This was funny.

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