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RE: Republican's make a choice? - 7/13/2009 8:46:00 PM   
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Ask her about abortion ?.....your fighting yesterdays battle Rich....Roe vs Wade is the law of the land.Deal with it.

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RE: Republican's make a choice? - 7/13/2009 9:00:14 PM   
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It's Sotomayor who is fighting old battles. She's a racist, through and through. We fought the good fight (600,000+ dead in the War Between the States) to make the huge stride towards equality before the law. The democrats want to play identity politics, and take the blind fold off of Justice? Watch them destroy our hard-earned progress. Vicious, short-sighted bitch that she is.

And then, there is this utterly depraved jewell she is responsible for. Fair Use Doctrine, thank you, Steve Forbes:

The Sotomayor Nomination
Richard A. Epstein, 05.26.09, 11:45 AM ET


In a previous Forbes column, I decried President Barack Obama's insistence that empathy would weigh heavily in the scales when it came to his next Supreme Court nominee. And reading the arguments that were put forth to justify the nomination of Sonia Sotomayor of the Second Circuit to the Supreme Court, it appears that all the bad chickens have come home to roost.

Evidently, the characteristics that matter most for a potential nominee to the Supreme Court have little to do with judicial ability or temperament, or even so ephemeral a consideration as a knowledge of the law. Instead, the tag line for this appointment says it all. The president wants to choose "a daughter of Puerto Rican parents raised in Bronx public housing projects to become the nation's first Hispanic justice."

Obviously, none of these factors disqualifies anyone for the Supreme Court. But affirmative action standards are a bad way to pick one of the nine most influential jurists in the U.S., whose vast powers can shape virtually every aspect of our current lives. In these hard economic times, one worrisome feature about the Sotomayor nomination is that the justices of the Supreme Court are likely to have to pass on some of the high-handed Obama administration tactics on a wide range of issues that concern the fortunes of American business.

We have already seen a president whose professed devotion to the law takes a backseat to all sorts of other considerations. The treatment of the compensation packages of key AIG executives (which eventually led to the indecorous resignation of Edward Liddy), and the massive insinuation of the executive branch into the (current) Chrysler and (looming) General Motors bankruptcies are sure to generate many a spirited struggle over two issues that are likely to define our future Supreme Court's jurisprudence. The level of property rights protection against government intervention on the one hand, and the permissible scope of unilateral action by the president in a system that is (or at least should be) characterized by a system of separation of powers and checks and balances on the other.

Here is one straw in the wind that does not bode well for a Sotomayor appointment. Justice Stevens of the current court came in for a fair share of criticism (all justified in my view) for his expansive reading in Kelo v. City of New London (2005) of the "public use language." Of course, the takings clause of the Fifth Amendment is as complex as it is short: "Nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation." But he was surely done one better in the Summary Order in Didden v. Village of Port Chester issued by the Second Circuit in 2006. Judge Sotomayor was on the panel that issued the unsigned opinion--one that makes Justice Stevens look like a paradigmatic defender of strong property rights.

I have written about Didden in Forbes. The case involved about as naked an abuse of government power as could be imagined. Bart Didden came up with an idea to build a pharmacy on land he owned in a redevelopment district in Port Chester over which the town of Port Chester had given Greg Wasser control. Wasser told Didden that he would approve the project only if Didden paid him $800,000 or gave him a partnership interest. The "or else" was that the land would be promptly condemned by the village, and Wasser would put up a pharmacy himself. Just that came to pass. But the Second Circuit panel on which Sotomayor sat did not raise an eyebrow. Its entire analysis reads as follows: "We agree with the district court that [Wasser's] voluntary attempt to resolve appellants' demands was neither an unconstitutional exaction in the form of extortion nor an equal protection violation."

Maybe I am missing something, but American business should shudder in its boots if Judge Sotomayor takes this attitude to the Supreme Court. Justice Stevens wrote that the public deliberations over a comprehensive land use plan is what saved the condemnation of Ms. Kelo's home from constitutional attack. Just that element was missing in the Village of Port Chester fiasco. Indeed, the threats that Wasser made look all too much like the "or else" diplomacy of the Obama administration in business matters.

Jurisprudentially, moreover, the sorry Didden episode reveals an important lesson about constitutional law. It is always possible to top one bad decision (Kelo) with another (Didden). This does not augur well for a Sotomayor appointment to the Supreme Court. The president should have done better, and the Senate, Democrats and Republicans alike, should subject this dubious nomination to the intense scrutiny that it deserves.

Richard A. Epstein is the James Parker Hall distinguished service professor of law at the University of Chicago, the Peter and Kirsten Bedford senior fellow at the Hoover Institution and a visiting professor at NYU Law School. He is a columnist at Forbes.

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RE: Republican's make a choice? - 7/13/2009 9:02:04 PM   
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       Out to prove you pay no attention at all to the oft-stated position of another poster, and just assign them according to approved party line bullshit, Mike?  I'm more pro-abortion than the President.

      

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RE: Republican's make a choice? - 7/13/2009 9:05:09 PM   
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      Just go ahead and call her a racist old hag nobody could stand to fuck without a paper bag over her face.  Fucking dumb bitch.  She should stay home and cook.

     (It is called the Sarah Standard, and I hope the people who set it are pleased with themselves)

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RE: Republican's make a choice? - 7/13/2009 9:08:22 PM   
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Your right Rich ,that should have read as the Republicans fighting yesterdays battles...if they try to make abortion a litmus test.
My apologies....
The approved part line bullshit line was a little over the top though.....its cool,I know its not an easy time for you guys.

< Message edited by slvemike4u -- 7/13/2009 9:09:58 PM >


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RE: Republican's make a choice? - 7/13/2009 9:11:38 PM   
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    Just go ahead and call her a racist old hag nobody could stand to fuck without a paper bag over her face.  Fucking dumb bitch.  She should stay home and cook.

   (It is called the Sarah Standard, and I hope the people who set it are pleased with themselves)
Damm and there I thought the criticism of Sarah was to do with her shortcomings as a candidate....thanks for setting me straight there Rich.

< Message edited by slvemike4u -- 7/13/2009 9:18:07 PM >


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RE: Republican's make a choice? - 7/13/2009 9:20:48 PM   
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      Yup.  Caribou Barbie.  Some real insightful analysis there.  Welcome to the bed you helped make.    Sexist attacks are completely ok.  Now that is some Change we can believe in, huh?

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RE: Republican's make a choice? - 7/13/2009 9:27:06 PM   
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You know Rich neither you nor any one else from your side of the aisle has bothered addressing the question.Should or will Republican leadership try to play nice and avoid pissing off the fastest growing voting demographic in the country.That is the bed you guys are currently in....do you care to address that are would you rather keep derailing and avoiding.

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RE: Republican's make a choice? - 7/13/2009 9:50:41 PM   
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Sotomayor is not horribly unqualified but not the most distinguished candidate.  That said, she has seventeen years of rulings that are for the most part unobjectionable.  Yes, her nomination is partly due to her gender/ethnicity, but that's the way the game is played in Washington.

The Dems have it easy.  All they have to do is to make it clear that it's her record that is really her strong suit, and not overdo her ethnicity.

The GOP is in a tough spot.  If they roll over, they lose the respect of their right wing. If they get too pugnacious, they may lose Hispanic support.  It goes without saying that her nomination is basically a done deal.

The pro-lifers are bizarre.  Obama's pick will not affect the abortion issue - he's replacing one pro-abortionist with another.  Do they really think that if they protest loudly enough, he'll withdraw her nomination and propose a pro-lifer?




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RE: Republican's make a choice? - 7/13/2009 9:56:28 PM   
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       I addressed it, Mike.  You chose to miss it (or perhaps you were just horribly distracted by visions of her naked???) 

     Her ethnicity is easily trumped among a lot of "her kind" (do you guys even listen to yourselves anymore?  Jesus!), by religion.  Abortion is kind of a big deal among Catholics, Mike. 

      I think the Republicans might do very well among that demographic by pressing her on the issue. 

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RE: Republican's make a choice? - 7/13/2009 10:05:14 PM   
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Sounds like wishful thinking Rich...younger voters tend to be less wedded to catholic dogma than their parents...

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RE: Republican's make a choice? - 7/13/2009 10:10:48 PM   
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quote:

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      Just go ahead and call her a racist old hag nobody could stand to fuck without a paper bag over her face.  Fucking dumb bitch.  She should stay home and cook.

     (It is called the Sarah Standard, and I hope the people who set it are pleased with themselves)

Caribou Barbie may not be the kindest thing someone could be called but it isn't equivalent to calling some one a 'fucking dumb bitch.'

You are just proving the same thing the freepers proved last week.

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RE: Republican's make a choice? - 7/13/2009 10:11:22 PM   
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       So say you disagree with my assessment then, but don't pretend nobody ever answered the question.  I think you are wrong in your conclusion about how much it might matter.

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RE: Republican's make a choice? - 7/13/2009 10:15:23 PM   
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thats cool Rich...I didn't intend to get you so riled....

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RE: Republican's make a choice? - 7/13/2009 10:18:34 PM   
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Caribou Barbie may not be the kindest thing someone could be called but it isn't equivalent to calling some one a 'fucking dumb bitch.'





        So you don't think "Tits of the Caribbean" has a nice ring to it? 

       Say, does unsexy Soto have any offspring we can mock? 

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RE: Republican's make a choice? - 7/13/2009 10:24:31 PM   
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quote:

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Caribou Barbie may not be the kindest thing someone could be called but it isn't equivalent to calling some one a 'fucking dumb bitch.'





       So you don't think "Tits of the Caribbean" has a nice ring to it? 

      Say, does unsexy Soto have any offspring we can mock? 


Why not? As long as you've made yourself look this shallow and hypocritical, why stop there?

Hey, that Obama fellow looks pretty dark to to me - must be a lot of material there for you to work with, as long as you're on such a roll. I don't  know what the hell's gotten into you lately, but i remember a time when I took you seriously. Seems like an awfully long time ago, now.


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RE: Republican's make a choice? - 7/13/2009 10:26:19 PM   
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Caribou Barbie may not be the kindest thing someone could be called but it isn't equivalent to calling some one a 'fucking dumb bitch.'





        So you don't think "Tits of the Caribbean" has a nice ring to it? 

       Say, does unsexy Soto have any offspring we can mock? 

you're still well past mocking her by refering to her as a plastic doll. I see now where you got you wild claims about previous events, you have no sense of scale.

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RE: Republican's make a choice? - 7/13/2009 10:40:47 PM   
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So willbur you don't beleive Hispanic voters will care,nor remember the treatment the first Hispanic nominee to the Supreme Court receives?
Really?


Not at the voting booth. They are generally voting Dem no matter what happens.

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RE: Republican's make a choice? - 7/13/2009 10:41:52 PM   
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Unless she says something silly she will be confirmed. She is very qualified having both the education and experience and there isn’t anything significant that she has done wrong. I’m actually more interested in getting a health care bill passed than this appointment. I heard Obama is going to ask Congress to work a little longer to get a health care bill passed before the summer recess.

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RE: Republican's make a choice? - 7/13/2009 10:45:31 PM   
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Unless she says something silly she will be confirmed. She is very qualified having both the education and experience and there isn’t anything significant that she has done wrong. I’m actually more interested in getting a health care bill passed than this appointment. I heard Obama is going to ask Congress to work a little longer to get a health care bill passed before the summer recess.




dont hold your breath

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