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ThatDamnedPanda -> RE: Sub Males vs. Bondage Enthusiasts and Masochists (7/15/2009 9:30:58 PM)

And I still maintain that no woman can be said to have lived a complete life unless she's had at least one opportunity to drive around the Castro yelling, "Yo! Beefcake boy! Show me yer cerebral cortex!" at gender-ambiguous men from the back of a limo. 




LadyHibiscus -> RE: Sub Males vs. Bondage Enthusiasts and Masochists (7/16/2009 7:46:58 AM)

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ORIGINAL: ThatDamnedPanda

And I still maintain that no woman can be said to have lived a complete life unless she's had at least one opportunity to drive around the Castro yelling, "Yo! Beefcake boy! Show me yer cerebral cortex!" at gender-ambiguous men from the back of a limo. 


So, where's my plane ticket, Pandaman?




ThatDamnedPanda -> RE: Sub Males vs. Bondage Enthusiasts and Masochists (7/16/2009 10:57:05 AM)

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ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus

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ORIGINAL: ThatDamnedPanda

And I still maintain that no woman can be said to have lived a complete life unless she's had at least one opportunity to drive around the Castro yelling, "Yo! Beefcake boy! Show me yer cerebral cortex!" at gender-ambiguous men from the back of a limo. 


So, where's my plane ticket, Pandaman?


Plane ticket? I'm thinking of road-trippin' it, me and my trusty Subaru. Why don't you pick out some CDs, pack your bag, and meet me on I-94 in... let's see... 62 days!




PeonForHer -> RE: Sub Males vs. Bondage Enthusiasts and Masochists (7/16/2009 2:18:36 PM)

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ORIGINAL: vasha

...  ouch  [:(]  

in every group, a few rotten can ruin things for the greater whole.  thus i see it here. =((


I keep reading that and keep thinking how true it is.  However, eventually I forget the bad experience and remember that not all femdoms are bad.




DemonKia -> RE: Sub Males vs. Bondage Enthusiasts and Masochists (7/16/2009 3:06:20 PM)

*chuckles*

Some of us are jus' evil . . . .

[sm=evil.gif]

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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

I keep reading that and keep thinking how true it is.  However, eventually I forget the bad experience and remember that not all femdoms are bad.





PeonForHer -> RE: Sub Males vs. Bondage Enthusiasts and Masochists (7/16/2009 3:09:36 PM)

I don't mind the evil ones, Kia.  More the merrier, in fact.  It's just the bloody deranged ones that cheese me off.




undergroundsea -> RE: Sub Males vs. Bondage Enthusiasts and Masochists (7/16/2009 8:04:12 PM)

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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer
I don't mind the evil ones, Kia.  More the merrier, in fact.  It's just the bloody deranged ones that cheese me off.


Man, you Britts just spell words all funny. Honor and color have an extra u put into them. Do you know how much toner and internet bandwidth the world would save each year if you all did not do that?

And now chase is spelled cheese?

;-)

Cheers,

Sea




vasha -> for what its worth, this is directed AT no-one i could put a name to (7/16/2009 8:40:37 PM)

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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

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ORIGINAL: vasha

...  ouch  [:(]  

in every group, a few rotten can ruin things for the greater whole.  thus i see it here. =((


I keep reading that and keep thinking how true it is.  However, eventually I forget the bad experience and remember that not all femdoms are bad.


ummm... i actually wasnt refering to the Domme's. 




LadyPact -> RE: Sub Males vs. Bondage Enthusiasts and Masochists (7/16/2009 8:56:59 PM)

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ORIGINAL: ThatDamnedPanda

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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

Well, maybe once I get to that coast, I can drag you out to something just to have fun.  I won't be that far off from San Fransisco.  Going out for dinner with kinksters can't be bad, right?  I'll even wear regular people clothes, rather than the leather.  I promise.  Just for you.


Let's take her out and get her roaring drunk at Folsom. We'll tell the limo driver to just cruise up and down through the Castro, and she can roll down the back window and yell, "Yo! Beefcake boy! Show me yer cerebral cortex!"



I'm in!!!!




PeonForHer -> RE: for what its worth, this is directed AT no-one i could put a name to (7/17/2009 1:10:35 AM)

ummm... i actually wasnt refering to the Domme's. 

I know. [;)]




PeonForHer -> RE: Sub Males vs. Bondage Enthusiasts and Masochists (7/17/2009 1:14:46 AM)

No, we spell the word "chase" as "feckoffbeardie"




undergroundsea -> RE: Sub Males vs. Bondage Enthusiasts and Masochists (7/17/2009 5:55:47 AM)

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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer
No, we spell the word "chase" as "feckoffbeardie"


We have a bank called Chase here. It's funny to think about their marketing campaign in light of your translation ;-)

Cheers,

Sea

ps. I knew you knew.




PeonForHer -> RE: Sub Males vs. Bondage Enthusiasts and Masochists (7/17/2009 6:01:01 AM)

[:D] 'Course I did, Abe.




undergroundsea -> RE: Sub Males vs. Bondage Enthusiasts and Masochists (7/17/2009 6:12:17 AM)

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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer
[:D] 'Course I did, Abe.


I once wrote a tongue-in-cheek Top Ten Signs You are Dealing with a Newbie Domme. I think I need to write one for subs also. Out of my appreciation for your playfulness, I would like to dedicate one to you:

10. Confuses a collar with a beard in photos ;-)

Cheers,

Sea




DemonKia -> RE: Sub Males vs. Bondage Enthusiasts and Masochists (7/17/2009 12:41:48 PM)

LOL

You two have got me thinking about the other meaning of the word 'beard' . . . . . Ya know, the hetero-seeming relationship that obscures one or both partners' homosexuality . . . . . That's giving me some twisted, amorphous thoughts about capitalist entities as beards covering socialistic workings for uber-rich bankers, something along those lines . . . . .




PeonForHer -> RE: Sub Males vs. Bondage Enthusiasts and Masochists (7/17/2009 2:26:50 PM)

You two have got me thinking about the other meaning of the word 'beard' . . . . . Ya know, the hetero-seeming relationship that obscures one or both partners' homosexuality . . . . .
 
Well I've got my back and Sea's broke, so we only need a mountain to make Brokeback Mountain between us.  ;-)

That's giving me some twisted, amorphous thoughts about capitalist entities as beards covering socialistic workings for uber-rich bankers, something along those lines . . . . .
 
*Sigh* No, it wasn't that that gave you those thoughts, Kia, it was the skunk, as usual.   You will never free yourself of the Killer Weed while you're still in denial.




DemonKia -> RE: Sub Males vs. Bondage Enthusiasts and Masochists (7/17/2009 6:57:55 PM)

*snort*

What's really funny about that last, Peon, is that after a loooooong time of being a chronic, I've quit. This is me, sober. Kinda like what Eddie Izzard talks about: 'People think I'm on drugs, but I'm not. When I'm on drugs I'm all, like, wanna buy some insurance . .. . . '




TexasMaam -> RE: Sub Males vs. Bondage Enthusiasts and Masochists (7/18/2009 9:39:21 PM)

Vena,

I hope your curiousity got the best of you and that you had to return to CM for just one more peek at the blog.

You and I touched on burnout on another thread not so very long ago...
don't let the negativity in some responses blind you to some valuable insights elswhere on a thread.  Take what you read with a grain of salt, especially if it gets under your skin.

My experiences are far different from most Dommes posting here, so My answers are usually quite different due to a much different perspective.

I think it's fair to say that I have known only one man who was a hard core masochist who did not, would not, ever identify as a submissive.  He was an entrepreneur from a wealthy family who was, and presumably still is, a formidably masculine, dominant man who ran several companies as well as several political circles with a firm sort of savoire faire.  He kept company with the most feminine and submissive sort of women.  He ruled his business world as well as his personal life with a polished and professional dictatorial personality that would make most Domina's teeth gnash in fury.  He married a demure and quiet woman who was content to let him handle all matters pertaining to their lives.  That is not to say he was condescending, far from it, he was simply a man of position who was used to having his way. 

He also happened to be a hard core bondage and pain freak. A session in tortuous bondage, or at the end of a whip, would put him in a cathartic state of release that he was addicted to more than a junkie was to heroin. 

He would 'submit' to a session just as if he were reluctantly permitting a doctor to examine him for pre op for some major surgery.  It simply had to be done.  He was happy to pay any price to get it, especially at the hand of a discreet and experienced Dominatrix.

Every other BDSM partner I've known in life has identified as a submissive to women at their core.  They loved pleasing a woman, whether it were a small or a grand gesture, a thousand times a day.  Some of them were crossdressers, some were pain puppies, some were bondage freaks, some were bisexual, some were straight.... every relationship has had it's different focus, fetish and flair.

Was the hard core masochist a fulfilling relationship for Me?  Absolutely. He was the only man who took everything I could dish out.  I had an absolute ball.  I would have sessioned him for free just for the experience he offered. 

Would I have wanted a long term interpersonal, emotional, intimate relationship with him?  Absolutely not.  He was not about pleasing Me, he was all about getting what he needed.  He'd have driven Me batty by day two.

That said,  I have consistently found men of some experience and maturity to be the most satisfying of partners.  A submissive who can tell you that he craves caning, or bondage, or whatever the fetish, is one who has focused time and considerable effort in learning about himself and his submissive nature.

In My opinion, you simply haven't met the right man.

You'll know him when it happens.

That old adage is true, lovely lady:

You have to whip a LOT of frogs to find your prince charming.

Chin up, My friend, and keep on searching.  He's out there.

All the best,

TexasMaam







cloudboy -> RE: Sub Males vs. Bondage Enthusiasts and Masochists (7/19/2009 8:37:50 AM)


I never knew you had a secret, kinky relationship with Jerry Jones before. Why do I always have to learn things the hard way?




TexasMaam -> RE: Sub Males vs. Bondage Enthusiasts and Masochists (7/19/2009 11:19:39 AM)

<laffing....he was European, silly, and it was many, many years ago.  But great fun, I'll always remember what it felt like to cut a glute wide open with a singletail.....among other horrors that he dearly loved. He had a taste for hardcore, macabre edgeplay that would leave today's online wannabe's shiverring in their shoes and crying out in their sleep......

TM




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