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RE: Train docile bf to be dominant? - 7/15/2009 11:55:49 AM   
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I the same problem with an old bf and I solved it with a switch scene that involved lots of bullying and teasing until he became more dominant to challenge me.  But if you've already tried and he's not receptive it may just not be working. 

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RE: Train docile bf to be dominant? - 7/15/2009 8:18:43 PM   
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Is there any hope that my gentle and kind boyfriend will find his Dom side? I was attracted to him partly because he’s such a nice guy. I even tried to enjoy the kind of “nice” sex that he likes. Unfortunately I prefer my sex to be anything but nice. I’m trying to get him to try the things that turn me on—spanking, hair pulling, restraining me, etc. He’s making an effort. But I also know he’d rather be kissing me, caressing me, and making tender love to me. He refuses to call me names. He doesn’t want to hurt me. He says pretending to rape me would be a huge turn off.

I have to instruct him every time we have sex. “No, stop kissing me, be rough with me, I’m your whore, not your girlfriend, don’t ask if it hurts, don’t be romantic, just fuck me.” Right now I don’t think either of us are enjoying sex. Maybe I just need to be patient and realize that he needs to be trained for a while. I’m hoping to awaken his desires for dominance; I don’t want him to just go through the motions for me. But maybe if it’s not in his nature to “disrespect” and control a woman, it never will be?

He also likes me to dominate him by slapping, punching, kicking and standing on his balls. I do it because it makes him happy, but it worries me that he prefers to be the submissive one. I want him to want me to be submissive, to surrender to him, to be his sex slave, to be used, to be thrown around. I tell him we can kiss and cuddle after it’s all done, but he doesn’t think that will make it “all better.” He’s worried about being an asshole. He doesn’t want our kinky sex life to poison our normal life.

He says he wants equality. I can deal with equality…but not in the bedroom. I need a man to be in control, to boss me around, to be forceful and harsh. He says I “just think I need it” and I could adapt to vanilla sex if I really tried. Well I did try. For four months. Four months of no orgasms. Four months of discontent. And I love the guy, I do. This is the one major issue with us. I don’t want to break up with him over sex, but I don’t want to remain unsatisfied either. He thinks I can change, I want him to change…is it possible for either of us to really change? Or is being kinky/vanilla more innate than that?






I think the OP may want to take some time and re-think her priorities

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RE: Train docile bf to be dominant? - 7/15/2009 9:44:25 PM   
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I think there is a small glimmer of hope and I see it in the fact that he wants equality.

He asks that you top him. Good! Do it! And do it as intensely as you would want to receive. Set up a safe word and other ways to check on him. By doing this you are teaching him how to do this for you later. You have to stoke the flames. Some men are hesitant to dominate a woman they care about because they have to be absolutely convinced that it is a) something you really truly want and b) it is something you can handle and won't resent him for the next day. So dominate him, top him, slap him, bite him, whatever. Give him a clue by portraying the dominant behavior you want from him. If he's not truly just submissive there can be a point where in order to maintain his own equality he has to retaliate in bed. Give him opportunities to do this- tease him, taunt him and coax him into returning the favor. Be very playful. If he starts to retaliate let him. Watch for that look on his face that means "Oh crap, did I just push her too hard? I didn't mean to, it just happened. I hope she's ok and I need to apologize." As soon as you see that look immediately show how much you liked it. He might slowly discover that it's really ok because you can handle it and it hasn't changed anything between the two of you. After a few of these little exchanges he might be comfortable enough to really let himself open up and explore being a dominant. He might even discover he likes it.

Don't put so much pressure on him to assume a dominant role just to satisfy you. You can't make him do all the work. Instead, as the hopeful submissive, you have to work on creating situations where his dominance can come out.

I'm not guaranteeing success but I have seen it work.


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RE: Train docile bf to be dominant? - 7/15/2009 11:18:38 PM   
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I'm new to this but I think most people men included are either naturally submissive or naturally dominant. I discovered that I can't respect a man who can't put me in my place. It isn't that I don't want flowers, gifts or nice words but I want to earn them. Don't think you can change someone's nature.

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RE: Train docile bf to be dominant? - 7/16/2009 4:56:14 AM   
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I guess you girls need to dercide what you need. A boy friend or a master.



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RE: Train docile bf to be dominant? - 7/16/2009 5:32:44 AM   
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I can't understand this 'need' to change a person into what you want. There is obviously something about him that attracted you in the first place; why are you so determined to change that? I can almost guarantee that if you continue to push him; you are going to lose him.

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RE: Train docile bf to be dominant? - 7/16/2009 6:28:24 AM   
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I can't understand this 'need' to change a person into what you want. There is obviously something about him that attracted you in the first place; why are you so determined to change that? I can almost guarantee that if you continue to push him; you are going to lose him.


Well mist, I think it starts when a girl goes after what she thinks she wants in a man, but then in getting that discovers that wasn't what she needed.

Or perhaps its the ole "grass is greener" saga.

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RE: Train docile bf to be dominant? - 7/16/2009 6:31:19 AM   
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Greetings

It may be just me, but is not the Dominant supposed to train the sub, not the other way around? If your man have a Dom side, he will have to find it for himself, if you push him, he might put on a play for you, try to be Dom, but if it is not in his nature it will never be real, and it is better to accept that, than to try to force anything that will never work, better to talk to him about letting you have a Dom on the side.

I wish you both well


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RE: Train docile bf to be dominant? - 7/16/2009 6:34:39 AM   
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< Message edited by xBullx -- 7/16/2009 6:42:19 AM >


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RE: Train docile bf to be dominant? - 7/16/2009 12:21:28 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: msgntlhrt
I'm new to this but I think most people men included are either naturally submissive or naturally dominant.


Is dominance/submission a toggle where a person is either one or the other?  In my, albeit limited, experience it's more of a spectrum with people falling at various points between the two extremes.  A person's inherent nature will display itself differently depending on the situation.  Even though I am the more dominant of us, I readily yield to S in subjects she is more competent in, such as cooking.

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RE: Train docile bf to be dominant? - 7/17/2009 1:03:01 PM   
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Sounds to me like you need to bring in a dom to use and abuse both of you simultaneously. But maybe that's just me.

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