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pahunkboy -> French youths burned 317 cars? (7/15/2009 5:24:57 PM)
AFP - French youths burned 317 cars and wounded 13 police officers overnight during the now traditional bout of street violence on the eve of the Bastille Day national holiday, police said Tuesday. France marks Bastille Day as the anniversary of July 14, 1789, when a revolutionary mob stormed the Parisian prison and set in motion the events that would lead to the overthrow of the monarchy. Today, disaffected youths from bleak suburban housing projects around major cities use it to express their frustration with high unemployment rates and what they see as France's failure to integrate ethnic minorities./snip full article here --> http://www.france24.com/en/20090714-317 ... -vandalism Ok- I dont see how setting 300 cars on fire would solve anything. To the person who owns one of those cars, what did they do to deserve that? In a way I understand the wanting to protest- but this sounds like a bunch of hoodlums. How is this a "celebration"? Why is this a tradition??? ? Or maybe cars are not needed- that the public transit is pretty good. But- of some cars get burned- how does that fix the problems over there?

kittinSol -> RE: French youths burned 317 cars? (7/15/2009 7:33:22 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: pahunkboy Why is this a tradition??? It is not a tradition, no matter what the journalist who wrote the article says.

LadyEllen -> RE: French youths burned 317 cars? (7/16/2009 3:12:05 AM)
Some lessons from the Metropolitan police (London) are in order - the first hint of dissent, the first attempt at peaceful protest and you put all involved on the terrorist watch list and beat the crap out of them. That way, the glorious leaders can do what they please knowing that no one dares object. The French have simply been too soft on their peasants for too long. More seriously, what alternative methods are suggested for raising concerns when no fucker is in the slightest bit interested and hasnt been for decades? Why should I have any respect for your laws, when your sole interest is in perpetuating the status quo whereby you prosper and I live in desperate poverty - and at the slightest hint of my protest I am labelled terrorist instead of the day to day nomenclature I suffer at the hands of your agents? E

Aneirin -> RE: French youths burned 317 cars? (7/16/2009 4:42:18 AM)
Maybe it is only here, but ever notice sentencing of offenders in courts, if the defendant is guilty of a crime against a person, they get a sentence, which might be gardening or a few months of in detention, now if the defendant commits a crime against property or money, the sentance is much higher, this my understanding in this country, property and money are to the law and order people more important than people. Now, if this is the same elsewhere, setting light to property makes people wake up and say hello whats going on, A bit of scrapping, it is hey, it's only others, not me, I don't care, nor can I sympathise as I am in my guarded ivory tower far above the filth and stench of the hoi polloi. Fires create attention, but if firing cars was not done for the aim of raising attention, but just because they were there, then that is it, cars are a natural target for mischief makers, they burn well.

subfever -> RE: French youths burned 317 cars? (7/16/2009 8:09:03 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LadyEllen More seriously, what alternative methods are suggested for raising concerns when no fucker is in the slightest bit interested and hasnt been for decades? Why should I have any respect for your laws, when your sole interest is in perpetuating the status quo whereby you prosper and I live in desperate poverty - and at the slightest hint of my protest I am labelled terrorist instead of the day to day nomenclature I suffer at the hands of your agents? E Bullseye. But this doesn't fit neatly into the left vs. right paradigm, so don't expect much support from the sheeple who unwittingly support the status quo.

pahunkboy -> RE: French youths burned 317 cars? (7/16/2009 12:27:01 PM)
Interesting comments. Burning a tire tho can have that effect. The fire thing. I do think a community has to have the people have a portion of ownership of the community. At some point- when there isn't then the stakes are not there to protect ones interest. So then- the question is- how drastic the disconnect is over there.

FullCircle -> RE: French youths burned 317 cars? (7/16/2009 12:55:26 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: pahunkboy Ok- I dont see how setting 300 cars on fire would solve anything. Wrong! Burning 300 cars means people/insurers will have to buy another 300 cars and this will help the eco no me. The UK government is running a similar scrapage scheme.

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