Straight male Masters seeking sub/sub couples?? (Full Version)

All Forums >> [Community Discussions] >> Ask a Master



Message

TeeGO -> Straight male Masters seeking sub/sub couples?? (2/18/2006 7:12:56 AM)

...or straight male Doms topping straight male subs??

I've read a lot of profiles and have run into that from time to time. I guess I have a hard time grasping this in a scene. Could somebody enlighten me?

The whole idea of a straight male Dom topping a straight male sub is not something I can wrap my mind around; but my Domme is a switch and is seeking a Master. In a lifestyle power structure I have no problem understanding this concept and that the male Master would be the ultimate authority in such a dynamic. But she has asked me if I could be involved in "play" with her Dom. I'm trying to understand the nature of this and what would be involved. So I'm looking for opinions from folks that have been involved in these types of scenarios. Any help would be appreciated.




xxblushesxx -> RE: Straight male Masters seeking sub/sub couples?? (2/18/2006 8:06:18 AM)

I've wondered the same thing myself...

I realize there are scenes which are not sexual in nature, but, it all seems to come back around to that sooner or later.

Or maybe it's just me (?)...[;)][:-]



ownedgirlie -> RE: Straight male Masters seeking sub/sub couples?? (2/18/2006 8:22:00 AM)

The Dominant may want to use the male submissive on/with his female submissive. It is about the domination/power/control, not the sex. Sex is a way to achieve demonstration of one's submissive (i believe it is where a submissive is most vulnerable), but not the only way. The Dom may want to inflict things on the male sub, (such as cbt, etc.) but not for the purpose of his own arousal or sexual satisfaction. It feeds his mind to control others, and to receive the submission of others, whether male or female. A straight Dom may still enjoy withholding orgasm of a male sub, or controlling the orgasm. In a case like this, the straight Dom might have the female sub bring the male sub to such a state, rather than physically engaging in sex with him himself.

Sex can occur if the Dom wishes the male sub to perform sexual acts with/on the female sub. He may also have a hierarchy, and have one wait on the other and take care of the other.




MasterSpinner -> RE: Straight male Masters seeking sub/sub couples?? (2/18/2006 5:39:46 PM)

In my experiance, I enjoy sub/sub couples (weather m/f f/f or m/m) because I enjoy playing them off one another. I am able to exploit things about them as a couple that I wouldn't be able to with a single submissive. An example might be bringing the female nearly to climax while he watches, while pushing his jealousy buttons. One scene I did the male sub even attempted to reach out and touch his girlfriend out of the desire to share in her experiance. My paddle met his hand quite smartly. In my scene work direct sexual contact is sparse if at all, I tend to use my tools and techniques to bring about what often become arousal through non sexual means. And I'm not about to let my own sexuality interfere with my scenework, especially if a male sub I'm working on finds himself being aroused by my whip. I'll use his arousal just like I would any female submissive as a tool.

Of course putting the partner on the opposite side of the cross and allowing them to play with the sub I'm working on does allow for some interesting additions. Especially if the sub I'm working on is blindfolded... if it's the male I might just make him believe it's me who's working on his cock only to use whatever hangups he might have against him.

In otherwords as much as can be imagined there are thousands of reasons/benifits to haveing a sub/sub couple. Not the least of which is to play a part in makeing a relationship more fulfilling.



Elegant -> RE: Straight male Masters seeking sub/sub couples?? (2/18/2006 6:41:18 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: TeeGO
Straight male Masters seeking sub/sub couples...or straight male Doms topping straight male subs??

I've read a lot of profiles and have run into that from time to time. I guess I have a hard time grasping this in a scene. Could somebody enlighten me?



quote:

ORIGINAL: xxblushesxx

I've wondered the same thing myself...

I realize there are scenes which are not sexual in nature, but, it all seems to come back around to that sooner or later.

Or maybe it's just me (?)...[;)][:-]


xxblushesxx: I think it's you (but not only you) who might think all scenes are sexual in nature but this is incorrect.

Some Tops are sadist pure and simple (is there such thing as a pure and simple sadist?) and the gender/sex of who they hurt does not matter. Master Archer calls himself an equally oppotunity sadist.






erebus -> RE: Straight male Masters seeking sub/sub couples?? (2/18/2006 9:28:38 PM)

I prefer to play with female submissives or slaves. However, there are lots of interesting permutations with two submissives. It has to be understood that the male sub/slave will participate only to the extent the Dom permits or desires.

I personally believe that a slave is a slave first, and a male or female second. The mindset is paramount.

One fun game is to deny the male permission to touch his partner, or even to be in the same room. A lot of male slaves enjoy having a more dominant male take control of him and his partner.

Obviously, some males are cuckholds and enjoy being tied up (or not) while a more alpha male takes his partner in front of him.



DelRey -> RE: Straight male Masters seeking sub/sub couples?? (2/19/2006 6:08:26 AM)

I was recently enlightened to this, if you read my journal you will see it.

here is what we get caught up in.... when we think of couples we automatically think of male female. Ahhhhhhh, not so fast...

I was asked would I ever consider a switch? I infatically said NO! but after thinking of it. And considered the switch below me in the hierarchy and the other sub/slave beneath her it took on whole new thoughts.

So If I ever sought a Sub/couple it would likely be 2 females that were in a D/s and the D swung sub.

Get it ?



Petruchio -> RE: Straight male Masters seeking sub/sub couples?? (2/19/2006 5:17:18 PM)

quote:

Straight male Masters seeking sub/sub couples?


I wasn't seeking the situation, but years ago I worked with a couple who were both sub. The rôle playing was interesting, kind of an Egyptian slave scene which I wrote about later.

I sometimes work with a domme friend who subs to me. That's very interesting too and a different dynamic.

quote:

she has asked me if I could be involved in "play" with her Dom. I'm trying to understand the nature of this and what would be involved.


If you need translation, you'd better ask your woman to spell that out. Sexuality with a male would be a non-starter as far as I'm concerned.



LuckyAlbatross -> RE: Straight male Masters seeking sub/sub couples?? (2/19/2006 10:06:05 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: TeeGO
The whole idea of a straight male Dom topping a straight male sub is not something I can wrap my mind around; but my Domme is a switch and is seeking a Master. In a lifestyle power structure I have no problem understanding this concept and that the male Master would be the ultimate authority in such a dynamic. But she has asked me if I could be involved in "play" with her Dom. I'm trying to understand the nature of this and what would be involved. So I'm looking for opinions from folks that have been involved in these types of scenarios. Any help would be appreciated.



For some people wha tmatters is the authority, not the sexual orientation.

All of my male partners are fine with topping other males and none of them are openly bisexual or homosexual. For them it's about the particular connection and the play- not sex.



TeeGO -> RE: Straight male Masters seeking sub/sub couples?? (2/20/2006 2:11:45 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Petruchio

quote:

she has asked me if I could be involved in "play" with her Dom. I'm trying to understand the nature of this and what would be involved.


If you need translation, you'd better ask your woman to spell that out. Sexuality with a male would be a non-starter as far as I'm concerned.



Thank you and yes, that fact is a given. Trust is an absolute must and I completely trust her, with my life I would trust her.

I was more interested in the general details of such a dynamic, and a good many people have given me some good info in that regard. Thanks to all.

Due to the fact I trust her, I've been willing all along. But thanks to this thread, my mind is at a bit more ease.



artglfr -> RE: Straight male Masters seeking sub/sub couples?? (2/23/2006 5:28:03 PM)

Multiple sub/sub couples is even more fun. I tie them face to face in all sorts of positions also genital to face is sweet and then Forbid them to touch the genital drives them CRAZY but I enjoy it so it's all good.

Sex is not a concern though there is a LOT of sexual tension all those crotches so close to those mouths and occaisionally I do allow...



ownedgirlie -> RE: Straight male Masters seeking sub/sub couples?? (2/23/2006 7:16:43 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: artglfr

Multiple sub/sub couples is even more fun. I tie them face to face in all sorts of positions also genital to face is sweet and then Forbid them to touch the genital drives them CRAZY but I enjoy it so it's all good.

Sex is not a concern though there is a LOT of sexual tension all those crotches so close to those mouths and occaisionally I do allow...


Do you flog them when tied together like that? ~ grin ~



Page: [1]

Valid CSS!




Collarchat.com © 2025
Terms of Service Privacy Policy Spam Policy
3.320313E-02