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Antichrist, as reviewed by a psychic critic - 7/20/2009 4:03:25 AM   
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Ladies and gentlemen, please allow me to introduce you to the most amazing film critic in the world, Mr Christopher Hart!

In his linked article on the potentially catastrophic consequences that Lars Von Trier's new movie Antichrist will have on the entire planet, he manages to speak about the content of the movie, about the subtle nuances and plot details, about the shocking visuals and the way the overall tone and pacing of the flick presents its story, all from having seen the movie exactly, errrrr, zero times.

Had the mighty seer Mr Hart actually bothered to view the flick then I might have given his thoughts and opinions some serious consideration, but I have no time whatsoever for those who pass judgement on movies without having seen them.

Yes, it's explicit, violent and what you'd term 'arthouse' but what gives these people the right to dictate to me what I can and cannot (or should not) watch providing the material contains consenting adults. You don't like the sound of the movie? Fine. Don't see it. Just don't presume that your moral judgement is superior to mine.

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1200742/CHRISTOPHER-HART-What-DOES-film-banned-days.html

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RE: Antichrist, as reviewed by a psychic critic - 7/20/2009 4:20:27 AM   
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RE: Antichrist, as reviewed by a psychic critic - 7/20/2009 4:22:22 AM   
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RE: Antichrist, as reviewed by a psychic critic - 7/20/2009 4:35:45 AM   
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Status: offline 		It means you have to be 18 to see it Holly:)

Of course its his choice to complain and whine, but at least have the balls to do the research and see it first hand.
And he got paid for that? Moralizing bullcrap is just that moralizing bullcrap


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RE: Antichrist, as reviewed by a psychic critic - 7/20/2009 4:37:37 AM   
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RE: Antichrist, as reviewed by a psychic critic - 7/20/2009 4:39:11 AM   
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And i agree with Lucy. He is entitled to his opinion, but if he is going to criticize the movie, he really needs to see it first.


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RE: Antichrist, as reviewed by a psychic critic - 7/20/2009 4:42:14 AM   
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Status: offline 		In fairness, it wasn't a movie review.  It was a whine about how anything gets filmed and distributed.  That said, I'm not sure what's groundbreaking about Antichrist.

Mainstream movie with sex?  Um, yeah.  Horror movie with sex?  Yep.  D/s in a mainstream movie?  Sure.

Reminds me of the anti-Harry Potter hysteria, where thousands of people who had never read the books were condemning them as being unfit for children because they contained - gasp! - magic.

Note that Hart's hysterical diatribe is NOT in the Entertainment section, but rather the Opinion section of the newspaper.


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RE: Antichrist, as reviewed by a psychic critic - 7/20/2009 6:49:16 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Darcyandthedark
Lars Von Trier's new movie Antichrist will have on the entire planet, he manages to speak about the content of the movie, about the subtle nuances and plot details, about the shocking visuals and the way the overall tone and pacing of the flick presents its story, all from having seen the movie exactly, errrrr, zero times.
Yes, it's explicit, violent and what you'd term 'arthouse'
Its that horror flick that is situated in some kind of museum full of bones and stuffed or wax people, isn't it? I have not seen it either, but I have been told that the acting was quite good, except for the main character who couldn't seem to remember his lines. The lighting wasn't very good either. I mean: of course there are some dark shots in a horror flick, but when the screen is black nearly half of the time, it no longer is a movie, but a hearplay. I have also been told that the original director did a swell job, but when he died from food poisoning his replacement - either Ed Wood, Uwe Boll, or William Thinby; I forgot which (perhaps it was someone else) - just blew it: no eye for composition nor for plot or story-line at all! I still do not know what that chorus of geriatric cheerleaders were doing dancing around the Chronos-10 crew when those two hapless astronauts erected the wooden cross of the antichrist in Mare Crisium in 1959. They had black nickers and did not wear any astronaut suits at all! What kind of prop manager is that who cannot supply the necessaries? Hearing all of that, I do not think that anyone would willingly go and see that movie - unless of course it is so bad that it is good.

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RE: Antichrist, as reviewed by a psychic critic - 7/20/2009 8:16:44 AM   
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Status: offline 		It does sound odd that they would be subsidizing a horror flick. There are enough of them out there as is that don't need handouts. Why couldn't he get funding from normal investors if it was thought to be a viable picture?

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RE: Antichrist, as reviewed by a psychic critic - 7/20/2009 8:20:39 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

Of course its his choice to complain and whine, but at least have the balls to do the research and see it first hand.
And he got paid for that? Moralizing bullcrap is just that moralizing bullcrap



He writes for the Daily Mail. 'Nuff said, really.

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RE: Antichrist, as reviewed by a psychic critic - 7/20/2009 8:25:50 AM   
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I missed that the first time around!! coulda been worse tho..imagine the sun or mirror getting their little heads around it

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RE: Antichrist, as reviewed by a psychic critic - 7/20/2009 8:31:15 AM   
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Status: offline 		Antichrist is by Lars Von Trier - his famously controversial movies have rocked arthouse cinema critics (and more mainstream ones) for over a decade.  It's about a couple who lost their child when they were copulating/fucking/having sex (but NOT making love) and who, to get over it, retreat to a cabin in the woods... in a forest that's strangely reminiscent of the Blair Witch haunts. But their guilt... follows them... and... BOUH!!!

Not for the fainthearted  .

PS: here's the link to the official trailer .

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RE: Antichrist, as reviewed by a psychic critic - 7/20/2009 9:20:21 AM   
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ORIGINAL: kittinSol

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

Of course its his choice to complain and whine, but at least have the balls to do the research and see it first hand.
And he got paid for that? Moralizing bullcrap is just that moralizing bullcrap



He writes for the Daily Mail. 'Nuff said, really.


This is Darcy

Exactly. And just to prove how outraged they are, they've kindly provided not one, not two, but three pictures of the sex scenes for you to vent your rage at!

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RE: Antichrist, as reviewed by a psychic critic - 7/20/2009 9:29:52 AM   
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Status: offline 		In a nutshell, his opinion just makes me want to see the movie. I'm thinking that wasn't his intent, but it was the result. Go figure.

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RE: Antichrist, as reviewed by a psychic critic - 7/20/2009 9:32:20 AM   
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Exactly. And just to prove how outraged they are, they've kindly provided not one, not two, but three pictures of the sex scenes for you to vent your rage at!


Well, you've got to give "Angry of Tunbridge Wells" something to be apoplectic about. Fake indignation is the only way these people get any kind of sexual kick  .

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RE: Antichrist, as reviewed by a psychic critic - 7/20/2009 10:23:44 AM   
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Status: offline 		HOLD ON THERE...LET US NOT BE BRINGING IN ANY COMMERCIAL INTEREST INTO HIS CRITIQUE. Does 'being paid' make it any less viable, what he believes. Does the paycheck by his employer, infulence what he is being paid to write, does it have any baring on the issue at hand?

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RE: Antichrist, as reviewed by a psychic critic - 7/20/2009 10:53:01 AM   
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Status: offline 		Well, a move that was very popular ...hyped for children..."Starship Troopers'....for children.

When 'The Story of O' was released, there was a public outcry for the movie to be banned. The reasons given were mainly ...it was a pornograghic fim, filled with decandence and perversions, had no redeeming social content whatsoever, the poor music and voice over was lacking of any techinical professionalism. "Shindler's List' also came upon the critque of public scruinity, demonstrations and dialogue... it was not fit to be seen; and an entire host of various reasons even to debates in schools both pro and con.

Belle de Jour...was another controversal film of it's day.

Death of a Princess....by the BBC, almost got us into a world war.

So, this guy gives his 'opinion', stating he has NOT SEEN THE MOVIE, but yet gives his opinion.

Great publicity, the news coverage is 'advertisement' for the movie, unpaid adverts. The movie cause a discussion, people get interested in the 'prosed' (so sirsholly won't feel left out)... banning of this film...it stirs interest, which commonly placed paid for adverts could not stir. The movie becomes an 'intrigue'...'what about it deserves to be banned...I've got to see for myself'.

But, let's not suggest any manipulations by the media, of the public at large... for any commercial interest or gain.

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RE: Antichrist, as reviewed by a psychic critic - 7/20/2009 11:28:12 AM   
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Status: offline 		you either like a movie or not....all the other stuff..isn't important
I wonder why critics even get payed for that job..it is mostly just an opinion..a taste

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RE: Antichrist, as reviewed by a psychic critic - 7/20/2009 12:53:45 PM   
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Well, a move that was very popular ...hyped for children..."Starship Troopers'....for children.


This is Darcy

As I have countered your claim before, Starship Troopers was not hyped or aimed at children.
In the UK is was an 18 cert.  Definately not for children.

Subsequent cartoons and follow ups were different.

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RE: Antichrist, as reviewed by a psychic critic - 7/20/2009 1:00:08 PM   
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ORIGINAL: ienigma777

HOLD ON THERE...LET US NOT BE BRINGING IN ANY COMMERCIAL INTEREST INTO HIS CRITIQUE. Does 'being paid' make it any less viable, what he believes. Does the paycheck by his employer, infulence what he is being paid to write, does it have any baring on the issue at hand?

You wouldnt pay someone to go to a restaurant and critic food if he didnt actually taste the food would you?
I feel the same way for a film critique, someone who has actually seen it can opine, one who hasnt is only guessing.
Please dont shout at me I am neither deaf or stupid.
sheesh

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