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EzMagick -> Switches? (2/19/2006 12:36:07 PM)
As I spend a bit of time surfing thru the profiles to see who is here, I am surprised to find so many women who list themselves as "subs" or even "slaves" when by the very wording and content of their profiles they scream "SWITCH!" If you can't be honest with yourselves, how can you be honest with another? At least have the courtesy to list yourself correctly. If the shoe doesn't fit, then "switch" it!

Gauge -> RE: Switches? (2/19/2006 1:03:16 PM)
The way I view it is that some people are still deciding their role in the lifestyle. They may not be sure what they want. Also, some submissives like to top other submissives but they do not see themselves as being dominant. It really has little to do with being honest with themselves or others. Not everyone has clarity as to what they want right from the start and some change mid-stream after thinking they were submissive or dominant.

Marid -> RE: Switches? (2/19/2006 1:11:41 PM)
What wording or content screams switch to you?

jamesthehumanrug -> RE: Switches? (2/19/2006 4:01:43 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: EzMagick As I spend a bit of time surfing thru the profiles to see who is here, I am surprised to find so many women who list themselves as "subs" or even "slaves" when by the very wording and content of their profiles they scream "SWITCH!" If you can't be honest with yourselves, how can you be honest with another? At least have the courtesy to list yourself correctly. If the shoe doesn't fit, then "switch" it! greetings, ezmagic,it is my meager opinion that: it's all cat and mouse games;chase scenes;to keep the excitment going,not stay stagnant. i read the profiles and, everytime it says 'switch'; i delete it; however, a womin knows what she wants to appear,as ,and what she is asking for or,maybe you are calling womin liars,too ,besides middle of the road....

fastlane -> RE: Switches? (2/19/2006 4:19:30 PM)
I'm swithching to light beer...should I list that in my profile? Kevin

RavenMuse -> RE: Switches? (2/19/2006 4:32:06 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: EzMagick As I spend a bit of time surfing thru the profiles to see who is here, I am surprised to find so many women who list themselves as "subs" or even "slaves" when by the very wording and content of their profiles they scream "SWITCH!" If you can't be honest with yourselves, how can you be honest with another? At least have the courtesy to list yourself correctly. If the shoe doesn't fit, then "switch" it! Given you don't say what sort of things you are refering to that "Scream switch" to you then one can only speculate. The most obvious possibility is that you maybe are unable to accept that a submissive can also be a confident woman? One that takes no crap from anyone yet when she finds the right man can submit utterly to him.... whilst STILL taking no crap from anyone else. Then there is the slight possibility that you maybe actualy right..... Some might not know themselves well, maybe they do have switch tendencys, or maybe they are just being defencive because of all the idiots, predators and chatroom UberDommly wannabees that infest the net. And if they are switch and know it.... You do know that some switches don't actualy switch within a relationship don't you?.... they can be sub to one person entirely.... whilst Dom to another, entirely. Why shouldn't they present themself as either? (Personaly I would like to know if that was the case but that can happen in discussion)

Petruchio -> RE: Switches? (2/19/2006 4:37:53 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: EzMagick As I spend a bit of time surfing thru the profiles to see who is here, I am surprised to find so many women who list themselves as "subs" or even "slaves" when by the very wording and content of their profiles they scream "SWITCH!" If you can't be honest with yourselves, how can you be honest with another? At least have the courtesy to list yourself correctly. If the shoe doesn't fit, then "switch" it! My, my. We ARE judgmental, aren't we! Look at it this way: There are strong subs and there are weak subs. Weak subs know nothing else; they are beaten down in life and don't understand they have a choice. Strong subs CHOOSE their lifestyle. They don't automatically give up their brains or even their submission to the first jerk who happens to peruse their profile. Most are making a life choice and therefore they lay out what is important to them in the hopes it will be met. Now, take a moment to ask yourself why they don't happen to meet your expectations.

OscarHargraves -> RE: Switches? (2/19/2006 10:08:56 PM)
Please don't try to make people fit in nice neat pigeon holes. It just doesn't work. If they list themselves as Slaves or Subs here it's probably because that's what they want to be and be known as HERE. Take that and them at face value and 'ass-u-me' they are smart enough to know what they want. If you are lucky enough to meet one of these people in r/t then you can discuss who they are and what they are both in real life and on the boards. Until then just relax and enjoy the spicy conversations and knowledge transfers here.

Evanesce -> RE: Switches? (2/19/2006 10:16:22 PM)
quote: As I spend a bit of time surfing thru the profiles to see who is here, I am surprised to find so many women who list themselves as "subs" or even "slaves" when by the very wording and content of their profiles they scream "SWITCH!" If you can't be honest with yourselves, how can you be honest with another? At least have the courtesy to list yourself correctly. Forgive me, because this is going to sound extremely rude, but who are you to tell someone they've identified THEMSELVES incorrectly? Each and every one of us has the right to determine who we are and where we fall within the spectrum of that which is commonly called "the BDSM lifestyle," whether someone else agrees with our self-definition or not. Just because YOU see someone as a switch doesn't necessarily mean they see themselves as such. Denise the Kaptin's wench (a switch - yes, it says so in my profile - who happens to also be a slave)

champagnewishes -> RE: Switches? (2/19/2006 11:51:24 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Petruchio quote: Strong subs CHOOSE their lifestyle. They don't automatically give up their brains or even their submission to the first jerk who happens to peruse their profile. Most are making a life choice and therefore they lay out what is important to them in the hopes it will be met. Thank you...nice summation. I would like to add also that many of us here have been in more than a few relationships before. Therefore we know what areas we want to persue as well as knowing what doesn't work for us. We have reached midstream, so why waste everyone's time by starting back at step 1. And yes i realize that with every new person comes new experiences. I am simply saying, for example, IF bondage was something i prefered to explore further and i wasn't much for the pain aspect, why would i want to receive 100's of emails from people who couldn't tie a knot but were proficient with a flogger. We articulate to the best of our ability what we are seeking in order to make your life a little easier in finding us. [;)]

BitaTruble -> RE: Switches? (2/20/2006 1:07:25 AM)
quote: As I spend a bit of time surfing thru the profiles to see who is here, I am surprised to find so many women who list themselves as "subs" or even "slaves" when by the very wording and content of their profiles they scream "SWITCH!" If you can't be honest with yourselves, how can you be honest with another? At least have the courtesy to list yourself correctly. If the shoe doesn't fit, then "switch" it! I understand that it's frustrating to do a search with a certain parameter and finding a profile which does not seem to fit your definitions. My advice, just move past those women as they are not for you and continue to look for those who match your own definitions more closely. Celeste

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