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bobbeme -> Toilet service (8/24/2004 10:59:17 AM)

Ma'am,

I have been with a few mistresses, and only one used my mouth as their toilet without any suggestion. The others did after I suggested it and after that became a regular service for me to perform for them. They all said that they enjoyed the control they had over me, "I need to pee, lie down with your mouth open, swallow, good slave, here is more, now lick me clean"

1st question, since they all loved it, why did I have to ask them to do it first?

2nd question, only two pooped on me, why is that? I would think if my slave swallowed my piss without any real complaints, it would be natural to try my poop next.



MistressDREAD -> RE: Toilet service (8/24/2004 1:09:00 PM)

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1st question, since they all loved it, why did I have to ask them to do it first?

you were topping from the bottom in My opinion and they let you do it.
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2nd question, only two pooped on me, why is that?

Maybe because they dident like you Topping from the bottom.


LOL!!! These questions were WAYYYYYYYY to easy. I hope this answered your questions.[:D]



perverseangelic -> RE: Toilet service (8/24/2004 1:45:48 PM)

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ORIGINAL: MistressDREAD

quote:

1st question, since they all loved it, why did I have to ask them to do it first?

you were topping from the bottom in My opinion and they let you do it.
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2nd question, only two pooped on me, why is that?

Maybe because they dident like you Topping from the bottom.

LOL!!! These questions were WAYYYYYYYY to easy. I hope this answered your questions.[:D]


I'm wondering- in your opinion is it topping from the bottom for a submissive person to make a request of their dominant person.

Say, as in this case, I very much wanted my dominant partner to use me as a toilet. In your opinion, would it be topping from the bottom to simply ask them to do so?



MistressZanthia -> RE: Toilet service (8/24/2004 2:52:44 PM)

Unless it's something that was negotiated before the scene started, to ask for it in the middle of a scene would yes as MistressDREAD said, be topping from the bottom. Granted I only "negotiate" with my professional subs, because they are paying for a service TOP essentially and I need to know what pushes their buttons.

But in my personal life, I don't do "scenes" per se. I play and it can be any time, any place and any whim I have. And it is not negotiated unless I am planning on pushing his limits. Which of course I know well in advance, he's my boy, his limits are engraved in stone in my brain.

Toilet service, is not something I enjoy personally. A professional sub would have to negotiate for golden showers in advance of his session, and even then scat play is a hard limit. Won't go there, ever.

You are lucky they even did anything 'toidy" with you at all. Many ladies don't like those forms of play, as for me it reminds me of diaper changing and cleaning cat boxes. *sigh* YKMNBMK.



MistressDREAD -> RE: Toilet service (8/24/2004 5:36:09 PM)

perverseangelic

things such as scat and yellow showers are items
that are contracted by Me befor I enter into any
concensual BDSM or Alternate relationship. Hence they an
I would allready know whats accepted or not, allowed
or not and it is I whom will deciede what will be experanced.
My contracts usually start out in 6 month traiining incriments
which lends slaves to add items they wish to experiance or try
that was not listed in the pryor contract. If you read My profile
you will have seen that I donot contract slaves for love interest
but simply for their desire to serve in a slave mode.This can be
for a one scene thing or for a lifetime of servitude in slavery. Doms
are My Love and relationship interests and whom I turn to for
conversations even tho I will speak to the slaves casually.
I do not practice D/s nor have I ever been in a singular relationship
ever. I am strictly a Lady Domiinant that deals with concensual
extream masocistic slavery long term and each slave serves in
the area they are so trained to serve in or to be trained in.
In My BDSM Lifestyle the Dominant has total control over
every aspect of Our M/s relationship 24/7 hence yes a slave
asking Me for any type of kink not negotiated is Topping to Me
after the fact .
M/s Poly to Me is way more cut and dry then D/s mono
relationships.
One thing that gave clue to this person Topping from the bottom
is the last sentance of their words here where they stated if it was
*THEIR slave*.........
see a slave has no place even tempting to state what
a Dominant would desire or make the ASSumption that they would
have a clue what a Mistress would want with out the Mistress stateing
such, they do not being a slave and this was My tip off. JMO



WayHome -> RE: Toilet service (8/24/2004 7:19:01 PM)

You have Dread's perspective, others' (including mine) will vary. I can't answer your first question as I don't have enough information but I can answer your second question:

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ORIGINAL: bobbeme
2nd question, only two pooped on me, why is that? I would think if my slave swallowed my piss without any real complaints, it would be natural to try my poop next.


There is a huge gulf between water sports and scat. A lot more people enjoy or at least tolerate the former than the later. One of the major reasons for that is that water sports are relatively safe, while scat (especially in the mouth) is not. Someone will probably pop up and say, "You're wrong, I've been doing it for years..." Yes, there are people who have been smoking for years too without (much) ill effect, that doesn't mean smoking is safe either. Any body fluid is potentially dangerous, but urine is on the low end while scat is at the very top.

Unfortunately within the community there is a bit of "my kink is ok, yours is gross" attitude that goes on. I try not to be a part of that attitude, but I must admit that I do tend to look a little sideways at scat players. Not something I'm proud of, but I mention it so that you can be aware the attitude exists.

Leto



bobbeme -> RE: Toilet service (8/25/2004 7:47:59 AM)

Ma'am,

I have always thought a main turn on for a mistress is control. The ones I have been with have supported this thought. It is usually the tasks that a normal person would refuse to perform that turn them on the most, and toilet service is one of those tasks. I know there are many many different flavors of this lifestyle and some are more extreme than others. Personally I would rather turn a mistress on by having her releive herself on me than having her brand me.



DarkDeadGirrrl -> RE: Toilet service (8/25/2004 8:07:26 PM)

Personally, I am not turned on by water sports, but I will do it at certain times. Scat is a hard limit for Me. and something I will not do, for Myself, for a sub, or for money. I agree that everyone has a right to their kink, and that is cool by Me. just not My thing.[>:]



Sylverdawn -> RE: Toilet service (8/25/2004 8:15:12 PM)

glups.. squeeeeks me ou t...............................



MaitresseEden -> RE: Toilet service (8/29/2004 5:53:56 PM)

Another possibility is.... Urine is sterile and there is little or not risk of getting anything more than a stomach ache from the consumption of it. Fecal materal however is the #1 tranmittor of Hep C an addition to some serious bacterial infections. Why would someone enjoy willingfully contaiminating someone, and intentially putting them at risk for more serious infections is beyond me. The pleasureable rim job is risky enough, but at least some precautions can be taken to minimize the risks, (dental dams) however strait consumption is not wise, or healthy, and most of us like to recyle the bottoms.. not contaminate them from future uses.

In peace,

Eden



MsGenevieve -> RE: Toilet service (8/31/2004 10:14:36 PM)

I personally won't do it unless asked due to the bacterial risk of feces...I want the slave to be full aware of the potential for intestinal issues.
Plus, if you are serving someone you should have covered that in negotiation, and not have to make suggestions because she will do what ever she chooses when she chooses with in consensual boundaries...



kuriouslykleen -> RE: Toilet service (11/4/2004 8:34:39 PM)

I have always had an interest in toilet play. I am not sure I could eat shit and drink piss or not. But I think A good dom will push those limits to the line to see how devoted her servants are to her will. -josh[;)]



perverseangelic -> RE: Toilet service (11/4/2004 10:16:47 PM)


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ORIGINAL: kuriouslykleen


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But I think A good dom will push those limits to the line to see how devoted her servants are to her will.


IMHO, a good dominant partner will utterly respect all limits, and push only dislikes. What's the point of having limits if they aren't respected?



MistresKatamaura -> RE: Toilet service (11/5/2004 5:05:20 AM)

Ok, Urine ISN"T sterile. That is how you pass BOTH incurable staff infections, sepsus and TYPHOID. Along with any dease you are fighting off. That is why restaurant workers have to wash their hands before leaving the bathroom. When URINE comes out of you it is a waste product. It is NOT only water but wastes that are comming from your kidneys and liver. The waste is put into your urine as it is leaving your body. It is sterile only BEFORE it leaves your body. NOT AFTER!!!!!!

If a person is on ANY MEDICATION legal or illegial they can track that thru urine. If the person doing it is on; asthma, allergy, heart, a psychatraic durg or any upper it will be passed along. It can cause heart attacks and allergic reactions.

I used to work in a doctors office and saw many submissives come thru the office with many different deases that they got thru water sports. I even saw people that had to have organ transplants because of the practice. The body can't process that much waste product over a long period time. Imagine having to pick up the peices in a conference room AFTER the doctor said to someone they need to see a surgeon BECAUSE of their sexual practices. Then they come back only to find out that they don't qualify to be put at the top of the list and can be waiting 10 or more years. Then have to go thru kidney dialysis because their kidneys were overloaded for too many years doing double duty? It can be a shock to anyones body.

There are many practices that are done in BDSM that hasn't filtered down to the BDSM community that isn't safe. Are you going to put your body at risk BEFORE you do propper research?

If you think it isn't dangerous..Think about this...What deases would you sue someone for giving you while you are in the hospital? Well, you can get those and more. It is illegial to do in NYC and Los Angeles because of the health codes in both NY and LA, CA.

I know at one point the CDC did have a listing of what you could get from ingesting urine. I don't know if they have that same list.



LadySonelle -> RE: Toilet service (11/6/2004 11:12:09 AM)


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ORIGINAL: kuriouslykleen

I have always had an interest in toilet play. I am not sure I could eat shit and drink piss or not. But I think A good dom will push those limits to the line to see how devoted her servants are to her will. -josh[;)]


I LOVE to play with subs who are not sure of whether or not they want something! They're scared, but wanting, nervous but determined... in a shivery sort of way! Oh, how I love that!

When My sweet sub-partner and I first started playing, she was not certain if she could "do" watersports... she wanted to please Me but was terrified of it... Perfect combination. I had promised her (as I promise EVERY slave) that I would NOT violate her trust, but that I *would* play with her limits. WS was at the time a limit.

One day, while we were playing in our home and she was deeeeeep into bottom space I asked her "Do you trust Me?" "Yes, Ma'am!" "Then you will do exactly as I ask." I led her into the bathroom and, with her kneeling before Me, I sat on the toilet and urinated into a large plastic cup. I set the cup on the back of the toilet.

Blindfolding My sweet slave, I commanded her to get into the bathtub and kneel. Shuddering, but willing to do as I asked, she did so. "Do you trust Me?" "Y-yes Ma'am..." she quivered like a frightened horse as warm fluid cascaded down over her, the scent of urine filling the room... "Do you trust Me?" "Y-yes... Ma'am..." the rim of the plastic cup touched her lips. Terrified, but willing to do as asked, she tilted back her head and swallowed... and swallowed... retched... and swallowed...

"Do you trust Me?" "Yes Ma'am."

"Then take off the blindfold."

She removed the covering and knelt, gazing at the full cup of urine! While holding the cup beneath her nose, I had poured warm, salted water, from another cup over her body and made her swallow some. I had NOT violated her limits!

Since she had *already* crossed her own barriers mentally, she was now ready to cross them in reality! She begged Me to pour the cup over her body, to drink from it, not blindfolded but finally over the terror she had had. The scene was a triumph for us BOTH!

Scat is a pretty hard limit for us both and while I might permit a slave to lick My (bathed) nether regions, I will not defecate on him or expect him to consume it! What I *will* do is allow a slave to watch as I defecate, and then he is expected to clean Me with soft cloths and lotion, worshipping My beautiful posterior as any good slave ought to!

I would no more feed My prized slaves My own excrement than I would feed a prized (and valuable) show dog on cheap Dog Chow or Old Roy! If I want to keep a beautiful animal or slave in the peak of condition, I will *care* for that animal or slave with good quality food, lodging, vet/doctor care and grooming, training and time invested! If I can afford Wellness or another premium food for a dog, I can afford to care for My slaves equally!

And just because a slave is pampered with good care, it does not make that collar *any* looser! :) They still feel My whips and training!

Lady Sonelle



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