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Inquiry..Mistresses, Masters, Doms, Dommes, Subs, or an... - 7/25/2009 2:32:22 PM   
TickledToDeath


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From: New York
Status: offline 		I am not sure if I posted this ever before since I sometimes don't have the extended time to venture all I wish to.
I may have presented this in some bdsm forums and was made fun of, ridiculed, flamed and disrespected somewhat
and accused of just wanting "wanker material". Hey it may have very will been here some time back when I first joined.
Please, wanker material???!!! I can do that with the wife and don't need to search or spend all my time on the internet
for that. I have it at home in reality. I am seeking this information from a true BDSM community.
This is an honest inquiry of the BDSM community and the Mistresses, Dommes, Subs and general population herein.
As a tickle switch and as the dom or tickler I have done this to others but as
the lee it has not happened TO me or been done to me.
My inquiry is, have any of the Mistresses here taken part in tickle torture of
someone that involved a level of "humiliation" or "humiliation play" by tickling
someone into peeing!? What is your take on that level of extreme tickle torture
that a person would be brought to that and tickled to and beyond that happening?
People in general in the Tickling Community have done this to some and some have
had it done to them but I never got any feedback from Mistresses in the BDSM
Community itself and have been scoffed at by the few I have inquired of this.
The times I have done this to others, it was expressed after that it was both
intense and humiliating at the same time!
I would greatly appreciate your take and feedback in this matter and of those
that this has happened to as the lee in me has always wished to be tickle
tortured beyond my limits(as I have never safe worded out of a tickle session)
or to the point of peeing. The 'Lee' in me has this curiosity even though I can
imagine it to be humiliating but I am not sure that it would be equally
humiliating if it was done in private with just one or two ticklers as it would
be if it were done in a "public" atmosphere, ie BDSM Club or Dungeon with one
or multiple ticklers. Not sure if it can even be done to me at all?!
I am definitely extremely ticklish so it is not to the fact that I am not
ticklish enough.

Thank you so much ahead of time and I will also thank those of you who respond
after.

Be well be safe be happy.

Sincerely,

TTD
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RE: Inquiry..Mistresses, Masters, Doms, Dommes, Subs, o... - 7/25/2009 2:37:37 PM   
LillyoftheVally


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Status: offline 		If it is something that you want to experience then you have to discuss it with your wife. I personally haven't experienced it and am not particularly ticklish. Due to your name and your clear interest no one elses experiences will really affect you.

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RE: Inquiry..Mistresses, Masters, Doms, Dommes, Subs, o... - 7/25/2009 2:52:30 PM   
TickledToDeath


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ORIGINAL: LillyoftheVally

If it is something that you want to experience then you have to discuss it with your wife. I personally haven't experienced it and am not particularly ticklish. Due to your name and your clear interest no one elses experiences will really affect you.


Oh, trust me, the wife would love to totally break me and take me long past my limits and to the point presented. She feels she needs help to accomplish this but that is not the point really. Just curious as to the thoughts of smbd folks and whether or not being tickled or tickling someone to the extent I presented would indeed be a form of humiliation and so on.

I do indeed thank you for your response.

TTD

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RE: Inquiry..Mistresses, Masters, Doms, Dommes, Subs, o... - 7/25/2009 2:54:53 PM   
LillyoftheVally


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Status: offline 		What is humiliating to you will not be to another. For example I find being called a slut highly erotic, but many women would find it humiliating. I would find being tickled annoying and frustrating not erotic or humiliating.

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RE: Inquiry..Mistresses, Masters, Doms, Dommes, Subs, o... - 7/25/2009 3:00:38 PM   
Lockit


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Status: offline 		Have you tried going someplace and talking to someone about doing this? I mean... I am sure someone has done it and liked it, but I don't see what good we can be in telling you... yes, there may be someone out there that does this.

Can it happen. I bet it could. Can it happen to you? Who know's?  But it sure isn't going to happen here.

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RE: Inquiry..Mistresses, Masters, Doms, Dommes, Subs, o... - 7/25/2009 3:02:25 PM   
TickledToDeath


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quote:

ORIGINAL: LillyoftheVally

What is humiliating to you will not be to another. For example I find being called a slut highly erotic, but many women would find it humiliating. I would find being tickled annoying and frustrating not erotic or humiliating.


Hmmm, so in that rationale, in general, at a public scene say at a bdsm club or bdsm gathering be it small or large, if a sub is degraded or something is done to the sub to warrant humiliation, if the sub is INTO humiliation, would it indeed be humiliating? General humiliation scenes is what prompted my inquiry. If the sub wants it to happen, wants to be humiliated, is it really humiliating? I as the ler have tickled several women into peeing etc etc and the LEE in me is curious to know what that feels like to be tickled to that extent. I personally am not sure if it would be humiliating to me whether in a public bdsm club or bdsm party or in a private situation but if a part of me wants to be broken, is it then truly humiliating. Guess I will have to some day find out for myself......however how does the smbd world see this?
I understand calling many women sluts being humiliating but I am more looking to stay in the bdsm realm not in the vanilla world.
Thanks again, Lilly. Much appreciated indeed.

TTD

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RE: Inquiry..Mistresses, Masters, Doms, Dommes, Subs, o... - 7/25/2009 3:09:28 PM   
Sunnyfey


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Status: offline 		Well TTD,

What it comes down to is concent. Does the submissive concent to humiliation? Is it on her hard limits?

Aka, it's kind of like a sub giving concent to a forced bisexual scene, no ones actually forcing them to be involved in bisexuality. If it was actual force, it would be actual rape....so, your thinking about it too hard

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RE: Inquiry..Mistresses, Masters, Doms, Dommes, Subs, o... - 7/25/2009 3:11:13 PM   
LillyoftheVally


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Status: offline 		Even women in the BDSM realm may be humiliated to be called sluts (shock horror)

I can see your point, if you crave something like humiliation can it really happen. I don't crave that but I can relate it to 'forced' acts, I do enjoy being 'forced' to do things, and that doesn't mitigate the enjoyment, the exertion of power and all that is enough to turn me on. So I kinda think that is similar.

If you have been tickled before you must know how it makes you feel? Lockit said it rather well.

Another issue is, at a BDSM event you would have to check to see if it would be appropriate. I can understand the desire for it to be in a public setting for the humilation aspect.

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RE: Inquiry..Mistresses, Masters, Doms, Dommes, Subs, o... - 7/25/2009 3:25:57 PM   
TickledToDeath


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Lockit

Have you tried going someplace and talking to someone about doing this? I mean... I am sure someone has done it and liked it, but I don't see what good we can be in telling you... yes, there may be someone out there that does this.

Can it happen. I bet it could. Can it happen to you? Who know's?  But it sure isn't going to happen here.


Maybe I asked wrong somehow and missed making the point since I am being misunderstood somehow. Sorry if I did so. It is not a point of me going someplace or here to make it  happen. I am asking in general of the bdsm population what they think of the situation I presented in my post. Would being tickled into peeing be humiliating to  the one being tickled who has a curiosity or desire to be taken to that level or to that point be it in a public situation at a bdsm club or smaller group or in private. Made point moreso that Lilly just responded to. It is a general point I am making and inquiring about and would it be in general humiliating to be tickled  to that degree and point. I am sure it can happen to me eventually but that would depend on the ticklers intent desire and time to take me there. Not that I am asking for people of this forum to do so.... thanks though.
I antagonize and instigate tickers enough when I am the victim....all they have to  do is ....well....do it. LOL

TTD

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RE: Inquiry..Mistresses, Masters, Doms, Dommes, Subs, o... - 7/25/2009 3:27:37 PM   
LillyoftheVally


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Status: offline 		I do think it is probably the way you worded your post, you made it very personal.

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RE: Inquiry..Mistresses, Masters, Doms, Dommes, Subs, o... - 7/25/2009 3:30:28 PM   
TickledToDeath


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quote:

ORIGINAL: LillyoftheVally

Even women in the BDSM realm may be humiliated to be called sluts (shock horror)

I can see your point, if you crave something like humiliation can it really happen. I don't crave that but I can relate it to 'forced' acts, I do enjoy being 'forced' to do things, and that doesn't mitigate the enjoyment, the exertion of power and all that is enough to turn me on. So I kinda think that is similar.

If you have been tickled before you must know how it makes you feel? Lockit said it rather well.

Another issue is, at a BDSM event you would have to check to see if it would be appropriate. I can understand the desire for it to be in a public setting for the humilation aspect.


Been tickled and tickle tortured into insanity plenty of times but never broken or made to loose bladder control! It is a fine line between pleasure and pure torture and sometimes it is more pure torture yet I get into it. The the more intense and unmerciful the tickling the better as far as I am concerned.  My curiosity was as you addressed would the sub or victim who wanted it to happen still be considered humiliation and would the top, dom, tickler, who did it to the sub, victim, lee, also consider that they did indeed humiliate said person.
Fine line again I presume.

Thanks again for your feed back and response. To you and to all thus far.

TTD

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RE: Inquiry..Mistresses, Masters, Doms, Dommes, Subs, o... - 7/25/2009 3:32:42 PM   
TickledToDeath


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quote:

ORIGINAL: LillyoftheVally

I do think it is probably the way you worded your post, you made it very personal.


After reading it for the 4th time....I can see where it seemed too "personal" and not a general inquiry as intended.
However, being tickle tortured to the point of breaking and peeing for me is very personal....lol but not my intended means herein.

Sorry folks.
I will try to be more generalized and specific in my future inquiries if there indeed are any...lol

Thanks again.


TTD

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RE: Inquiry..Mistresses, Masters, Doms, Dommes, Subs, o... - 7/25/2009 3:33:28 PM   
Rule


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Status: offline 		One of my neighbours got tickled for hours many and many years back. Ever since he has a stutter.
 
Considering that you are older, perhaps you will not suffer the same deleterious effect.

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RE: Inquiry..Mistresses, Masters, Doms, Dommes, Subs, o... - 7/25/2009 3:33:53 PM   
Lockit


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Status: offline 		One way to find out... go drink lots and lots of water... then tickle party away...

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RE: Inquiry..Mistresses, Masters, Doms, Dommes, Subs, o... - 7/25/2009 3:35:31 PM   
Lockit


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RE: Inquiry..Mistresses, Masters, Doms, Dommes, Subs, o... - 7/25/2009 3:37:18 PM   
TickledToDeath


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Sunnyfey

Well TTD,

What it comes down to is concent. Does the submissive concent to humiliation? Is it on her hard limits?

Aka, it's kind of like a sub giving concent to a forced bisexual scene, no ones actually forcing them to be involved in bisexuality. If it was actual force, it would be actual rape....so, your thinking about it too hard


If the submissive consents to humiliation and wants humiliation, is it truly humiliation? Hard limits I hear are adhered to.
Strict rules of conduct, trust and courtesy in any scene..bd sm etc... ergo, they would not be infringed upon.
So a forced act that has not been listed as a hard limit, and consented to, is it still then humiliating to that person even though they "wanted" it? Therein lies the quandary and  my inquiry.
Thank you as well for your sincere and kind response.
Thank all who have responded for being sincere kind and respectful.


TTD

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RE: Inquiry..Mistresses, Masters, Doms, Dommes, Subs, o... - 7/25/2009 3:39:25 PM   
TickledToDeath


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ORIGINAL: Rule

One of my neighbours got tickled for hours many and many years back. Ever since he has a stutter.
 
Considering that you are older, perhaps you will not suffer the same deleterious effect.


LOL TTTThanks, I hhhhope nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnot ttttoo!
Ttthat wwwuuwuuld sssuusssssuuck.

Older huh!?

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RE: Inquiry..Mistresses, Masters, Doms, Dommes, Subs, o... - 7/25/2009 3:40:58 PM   
TickledToDeath


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Lockit

One way to find out... go drink lots and lots of water... then tickle party away...


I am sure that will be on the ticklers agenda if and or when it will ever be attempted by the would be ticklers!
They would also have to prevent me from using the bathroom for a few hours...lol

TTD

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RE: Inquiry..Mistresses, Masters, Doms, Dommes, Subs, o... - 7/25/2009 4:00:47 PM   
Prinsexx


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quote:

ORIGINAL: TickledToDeath

People in general in the Tickling Community have done this to some and some have
had it done to them

The problem could be that there is a community of only one person.
quote:

ORIGINAL: TickledToDeath
The 'Lee' in me has this curiosity


Who is Lee?


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RE: Inquiry..Mistresses, Masters, Doms, Dommes, Subs, o... - 7/25/2009 6:17:06 PM   
TickledToDeath


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Prinsexx

quote:

ORIGINAL: TickledToDeath

People in general in the Tickling Community have done this to some and some have
had it done to them

The problem could be that there is a community of only one person.
quote:

ORIGINAL: TickledToDeath
The 'Lee' in me has this curiosity


Who is Lee?



Or one type of person?

Lee is short for Ticklee, the  one who is tickled
Ler would be for Tickler, the one who does the tickling.

There are many indeed who are into tickling and tickle torture however that specific community (similar to this one) would have a relatively biased opinion. I wanted the opinion from the bd sm community.
Tickle torture is still part of bdsm or it could be if done right.

TTD

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