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RE: If One is Blocked - 2/20/2006 11:20:28 AM

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I don't block someone because of their argument, I block then because they make post after post of totaly pointless and inane crud that I would skip anyhow, blocking them simply saves screenspace!

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RE: If One is Blocked - 2/20/2006 12:32:16 PM

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I disagree with blocking period, unless someone is very obsessive with multiple, meaningless or totally OT posts. Never for a difference of opinion or disagreement.

How about for sheer, consistent stupidity?

I've only got about three people blocked. Not for disagreement but only because their posts are so consistently poorly written and thought out (or they asked me to block them) that the posts constitute a waste of time.

I don't tell others not to read them but my understanding of the right to speak doesn't include they have a right for me to listen.

John said it, I agree with it. I personally have only one person blocked. I just choose not to be assaulted by even their font, let alone their stupidity.

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RE: If One is Blocked - 2/20/2006 1:22:28 PM

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Here we are, a group fighting against censorship practicing self censorship. Words can not hurt you. Ignorance in a post or email - ignore it. The protagonist gets nothing out of being ignored. Their ongoing baiting and ranting establishes them and their opinions as inconsequential. I wouldn't doubt that there is even an ongoing game being played by some one-handed web surfers who score points by being banned or blocked.

Abuse and stalking should be reported. I'm confident that the moderators here will take care of the issue. Blocking is often a victory for the person you blocked. They "got to you"; or worse yet, they believe you can't handle their "truth". Is that the image you want to portray?

Just a thought.

Just wanted to add one more point to this already well stated post....

I tried blocking someone once and realized immediately what a futile effort that was. Consider this... you block someone, for one of hundreds of reasons, then you're reading a post where 90% of what THAT person has to say is quoted in posts of individuals you have no desire to block... do you block them as well? You know, for all but forcing you to read the words of someone you blocked? Here's a thought, if you don't like what they have to say on a consistant basis.... don't read it.

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RE: If One is Blocked - 2/20/2006 3:00:50 PM

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wow... strange that you responded RealOne... you are the one i had in mind when asking about the blocking. you have diarreaha of the fingers that i mostly find rude and obnoxious and merely a way to get attention... but thanks for the head's up anyway.

(Apology to the Mods here)... end of this thread.

There happens to be a certain clique here that have literally become an institution on this forum and they get their kicks following me and a few other people around like a bunch of groupies. exchanging kudos with each other for disrupting various threads and posts. NOT only mine.

Get into an argument with one of them and like cockleburr you cant shake them off and they are attached to you for life. i am sure others have noticed that too, its pretty difficult to miss.

i am not talking about your comments about me, neither are you or the majority of others in this thread part of the clique i am talking about, just a couple and they know who they are.

i do not take offense to your post nor have i taken offense to others posts of the same tone. Frankly i welcome it because it opens the door for an opportunity to talk about the issues i find troubling on here.

i respect your right to your opinion, and i hope you respect mine. trust me i am even more tired their conduct than you are of mine.

if you want to see a perfect example of rude and obnoxious feel free to look at harleygurls thread on rudeness where i was NOT party to what happened to that man.

The OP commented several times how she was disappointed at how this same clique turned her thread into a bicker fest. Only to have them whine about the mess THEY made!!

here is example 1 harley gurls thread:
http://www.collarchat.com/m_269921/mpage_1/key_/tm.htm

My last post on this thread
Do you really think i like disecting someones speech to undo an attack on me?
http://www.collarchat.com/m_265479/mpage_5/key_/tm.htm#272781

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ORIGINAL: Mercnbeth

Here we are, a group fighting against censorship practicing self censorship. Words can not hurt you. Ignorance in a post or email - ignore it. The protagonist gets nothing out of being ignored. Their ongoing baiting and ranting establishes them and their opinions as inconsequential. I wouldn't doubt that there is even an ongoing game being played by some one-handed web surfers who score points by being banned or blocked.

Abuse and stalking should be reported. I'm confident that the moderators here will take care of the issue. Blocking is often a victory for the person you blocked. They "got to you"; or worse yet, they believe you can't handle their "truth". Is that the image you want to portray?

Just a thought.

i havent reported specific names yet of the groupies i speak of, where it had not occured to me it could be stalking, but in any case in general terms i have brought it to the attention of the mods that it is going on and i also spoke out against it in several of my posts as i am now at this point for the most part without naming names.

The only way i can get rid of most of these people is to go into threads they do not get involved in where you can see my tone is entirely different!

i assume that since you have judged me this way you have read most of my posts and have considered them all. (re: the OP)

Since the last couple of threads that i have openly spoke out against this kind of behavior and frankly as the op said got quite aggresive, i have noticed a small decline in the groupie count. Hopefully i can get rid of them all so we can have some good debates rather than the constant misrepresentation and distortion of my posts, knee jerk ranting, and bickering i have seen thus far from them, candy coating not withstanding..

as far as blocking someone? no not me. i am a firm believer in knowing what is going on around me. Like i said in another post: we all know what happens to the ostrich that sticks his head in sand with his butt in the air! LOL

i agree with you 100% as far as the more modern definitions of protagonist and whole heartedly about censorship.

i unfortunately find it difficult however to avoid responding to posts where my statements are regurgitated so grossly misrepresented that they turn "my apple" into a "semi" only to have the gang represent "their semi" to appear as "my apple". In addition it does not stop at one post, others from this particular group join in to perpetuate debating the semi, the regurgitated version which invariably is structured to take a shot at me.

It forces me to question if its purely ignorance, malice or both and since this only occurs from a certain few the latter seems more applicable.

Ignoring the protagonist, including those who misrepresent others posts is very good advice for all, one i will have to make a greater effort to hone my skills regardless how tasty the bait is. i am already finding myself ignoring certain peoples posts when i can see its obvious the motive is to only pick a fight.

Thanks for mentioning it op, it gave me a forum to state my issues.

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RE: If One is Blocked - 2/20/2006 3:21:01 PM

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I have no issue with what you post RealOne. You have the right to post whatever you want, within the rules of Collarme.

I do wish you would cut the word count by about 75%. Your posts tend to be repetitive to the point of being banal. Most get the point the first time you make it. Those that don't, never will.

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RE: If One is Blocked - 2/20/2006 3:37:12 PM

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RealOne although in hindsight i should have kept quiet regarding the basis of my asking about blocking... i did not. Having said that... i agree with caitlyn... if you could make your point just a bit more succinctly, i personally would be very grateful. Yes i too have noticed those few that bring drama regardless of the thread. Most of the time i just laugh. Your posts however seem to be very negative. You appear to be a very intelligent person who has much to say, could you just say it a bit less wordy?

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RE: If One is Blocked - 2/20/2006 3:46:28 PM

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HI Angel....please don't block me....I'll keep my post short.

Yes RealOne, the only problem I see with your post is the fact that I have to print them out and read them while on vacation looking for a book to read. Geez, use word count and keep it under 250 words for Gods sake!
The best thoughts are spoken in just a few sentences......and here is the important part....they are remembered, because they are short and to the point.

Now, where is that block control anyway, I may need it later?

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RE: If One is Blocked - 2/20/2006 3:51:36 PM

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Ahhh Fastlane, Sir... NEVER would i block You

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RE: If One is Blocked - 2/20/2006 4:08:53 PM

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i think he's trying for a record to see if he can get one post to be the only one on a page...LOL

to think, i thought i left lectures behind in College...jeeze

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RE: If One is Blocked - 2/20/2006 4:23:14 PM

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ORIGINAL: fastlane

HI Angel....please don't block me....I'll keep my post short.

Yes RealOne, the only problem I see with your post is the fact that I have to print them out and read them while on vacation looking for a book to read. Geez, use word count and keep it under 250 words for Gods sake!
The best thoughts are spoken in just a few sentences......and here is the important part....they are remembered, because they are short and to the point.

Now, where is that block control anyway, I may need it later?

you mean i didnt make the best sellers award? thanks for the laugh i about busted a gut!

oh and let me add point taken :)

< Message edited by Real0ne -- 2/20/2006 4:24:07 PM >

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RE: If One is Blocked - 2/20/2006 4:33:25 PM

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As strange at it may seem, considering the war of words in another Forum of which I was part, I have a sneeking respect for R1's posts and I guess I am in the minorioty of enjoying their length (Yeah well I love words too and most of my posts piss people off for their length and I haven't even started on getting Edwardian on the Forums yet

) I figured that R1 is probably related to R2D2 and 3CPO but I'm not entirely sure yet..... Post on McRealOne..........................

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RE: If One is Blocked - 2/20/2006 5:03:27 PM

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I.B. is too kind...which is why we love him...but, realone...do not listen...
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No offense and your not stupid, but that is my philosophy.....Kiss

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RE: If One is Blocked - 2/20/2006 6:12:56 PM

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I thought censorship was only censorship when a person other than yourself acted as a censor?

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RE: If One is Blocked - 2/20/2006 7:38:43 PM

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I thought censorship was only censorship when a person other than yourself acted as a censor?

I've got to disagree with you on that one my dear, I've always understood censorship to be the institution, system, or practice of censoring even as it is the actions or practices of censors. Which, to me means that I can impose censorship on myself, on my art, on my writings etc.

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RE: If One is Blocked - 2/21/2006 8:42:06 AM

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Status: online Here we are, a group fighting against censorship practicing self censorship. Words can not hurt you. Ignorance in a post or email - ignore it.

Extremely well said... I've never blocked anyone nor do I plan to - I don't believe in ANY type of censorship.

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RE: If One is Blocked - 2/21/2006 8:59:17 AM

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I don't believe in ANY type of censorship.

I don't consider blocking someone censorship. I consider it freedom.

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RE: If One is Blocked - 2/21/2006 9:17:26 AM

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I don't believe in ANY type of censorship.

I don't consider blocking someone censorship. I consider it freedom.

LOL! Semantics! You are correct... and, if it works for you go with it...
I read and then ignore. I've found that even the most inane poster sometimes adds value to the topic at hand. Besides.... haven't you ever heard that saying ''A vanquished antagonist sometimes comes back to make a great ally''

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RE: If One is Blocked - 2/21/2006 8:00:18 PM

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ORIGINAL: UtopianRanger

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ORIGINAL: KatyLied

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I don't believe in ANY type of censorship.

I don't consider blocking someone censorship. I consider it freedom.

LOL! Semantics! You are correct... and, if it works for you go with it...
I read and then ignore. I've found that even the most inane poster sometimes adds value to the topic at hand. Besides.... haven't you ever heard that saying ''A vanquished antagonist sometimes comes back to make a great ally''

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G'day Ranger, Good to see you posting,

I have a saying and technique which works for me.... "Kill 'em with kindness!" Some adverseries are worthy of the deepest respect even when they are the biggest pains in the arse. Gender depending, I prefer to either kill them with kindness or seduce them..... But then us grizzlies are sneeky critters....

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RE: If One is Blocked - 2/21/2006 9:20:21 PM

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ORIGINAL: IronBear

As strange at it may seem, considering the war of words in another Forum of which I was part, I have a sneeking respect for R1's posts and I guess I am in the minorioty of enjoying their length (Yeah well I love words too and most of my posts piss people off for their length and I haven't even started on getting Edwardian on the Forums yet ) I figured that R1 is probably related to R2D2 and 3CPO but I'm not entirely sure yet..... Post on McRealOne..........................

G'day Ranger, Good to see you posting,

I have a saying and technique which works for me.... "Kill 'em with kindness!" Some adverseries are worthy of the deepest respect even when they are the biggest pains in the arse. Gender depending, I prefer to either kill them with kindness or seduce them..... But then us grizzlies are sneeky critters....

i have found that the length depends on the group you are communicating with. In some forums as the one here you find yourself spending more time typing disclaimers you = (generic) you etc etc etc............ so someone you were never talking about in the first place doesnt grab the ball for a sideline touchdown. same thing in explaining what one is talking about, have to cover all angles or sure as shit boom another sideline touchdown.

i find its easier and much less typing over all when faced with that situation to make one long post than to have to respond to 5 other runaways only to see misrepresented versions perpetuate at an exponential rate. and that only works for those with functioning minds.

The human mind is very fragile. many minds stop functioning dependant on the environment. The human mind is plagued with many things like knee jerking, fixation, denial and a host of other shortcomings, and forums tend to cause a lot of that to come to the surface. last there are the literacy wonders who cant apply a simple dictionary and realize its a fit, they still continue to argue a hopeless point. With those kinds of odds its amazing that every thread doesnt wind up in the pot. Last there are those who look at it and shake their head in wonder and do not touch it with someone elses 10 foot pole.

For the greater part i like most peoples posts except when they take something totally out of context and uses it to berate someone and even worse if the troops march in behind them in support of it. Which makes it pretty obvious the troops never read the post and are just backing up the person who did the berating in the first place right or wrong notwithstanding. Its very difficult whether done to me or to see it happening to someone else not to jump in and try to put a stop to it.

ok as for the war on words....... one of my forte's being an engineer i have a knack for reading something and determining the lowest common denominator regardless of how convuluted it may seem. i am an atheist because my mother was sure i should read the bible to come to god. well needless to say i read the bible and the results were not what she had hoped.

Had there been someone in the group where the words were flying where they were able to offer some conclusions other than tell me what my mother did by telling me to read the bible things would have been quite different and 5 posts and i would have been otta there.

Now i am not bringing this up to get into or start a debate here about it that is not my purpose. My purpose it to illustrate why the war on words took place and leave it at that.

i get really defensive when people refuse to talk with me unless i am indoctrinated into the fold and forced to talk on thier level of understqanding rather than them presenting it at my level of understanding much like the way an evangelist approaches converting, which was what in essence was being asked of me. anyway nuff said i really do not want to disect that any further and certainly do not want to get back into it. that is just my viewpoint for you to take or not or scrap it all as the babble of an infidel which ever you choose.

You will never kill me with kindness, but i do respect your opinion regardless if i agree or not. If i seen you in a pub tommorrow i would walk over with a couple fosters and talk about anything but roG.

Cheers,
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r1

oh sorry about the length addressed several points :)

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RE: If One is Blocked - 2/22/2006 1:35:55 PM

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I have a saying and technique which works for me.... "Kill 'em with kindness!"

Say Bear....I know the technique well! I always say '' The bridge you burn today, may cause you to fall off the cliff tomorrow.''

I will also tell you, as someone who holds some of the most fiscally conservative view-points possible {I’m socially liberal}, I spend an inordinate amount of time listening to those that are the most fiscally liberal. --- Hell... I already know and understand how the Limbaugh's and Hannity's come to their conclusions; hence my emphasis is always focused on how the ''other side'' thinks and reaches conclusions.

Same thing with the posters here on collarme... some I almost always agree with and notice we think alike, but it's those that hold some of the opposite and more outlandish view points that I also enjoy reading.

I’ll tell ya…. For a while, I know that a few of the people here used to get a little upset with Lonewolf’s sometimes ‘’off the wall’’ posts, however I found myself greatly looking forward to his responses as they put a huge smile on my face everyday { I wasn’t laughing at him - I was laughing with him}

Here’s an example: Notice Lonewolf’s response in this thread --- Now tell me if you woke up in the morning and read that, it wouldn’t add a little laughter in your day. That post put a smile on my face for a week, while others get upset.

http://www.collarchat.com/m_160082/mpage_1/key_lonewolf05/tm.htm#160403

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