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Indian Mistress - 7/26/2009 6:41:45 PM   
spittlelick


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Status: offline 		Has anybody actually met any of the Mistresses from India on collarme.com? I just contacted a few who claim to want a real slave 24/7, so I applied, I can travel.
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RE: Indian Mistress - 7/27/2009 2:18:26 AM   
Malkinius


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quote:

ORIGINAL: spittlelick

Has anybody actually met any of the Mistresses from India on collarme.com? I just contacted a few who claim to want a real slave 24/7, so I applied, I can travel.


Lets sum it up in for simple letters so that you can understand.

S. C. A. M.

Got it? The chances of any of them being out for more than your money and not your body approach zero. Bet on at best a 50% chance of them being female. There is a similar chance of them actually being in India and not Ghana or Nigeria. Go look up 419 scams.

Now...if your thing is forking over money to someone you think is female and getting nothing but abuse for it...enjoy. You have been warned.

Be well....

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RE: Indian Mistress - 7/27/2009 8:08:21 AM   
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Status: offline 		I know scams happen a lot (major understatement) and we all have to be watchful and always cautious. Obviously because it's the internet and not a face to face interaction and also because of the distance.

But I wonder, has it ever occured to anyone that there just MIGHT be a female sub/dom who DOES live in india? or Ghana? or wherever else? I've heard scam stories and I am not trying to sound as if they don't happen.
It just makes me wonder why people are so quick to judge that anyone from what may be considered an underdeveloped country is a fake or a scam?

I don't have an answer for you and no one really can give you an answer.  All you can do is invest the time to investigate thei r facts and see where they are leading towards (if money comes up ...a lot = there ya have it. and if not then maybe you've gained a great relationship/friendship.

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RE: Indian Mistress - 7/27/2009 8:45:30 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Malkinius
Lets sum it up in for simple letters so that you can understand.

S. C. A. M.

Got it? The chances of any of them being out for more than your money and not your body approach zero. Bet on at best a 50% chance of them being female. There is a similar chance of them actually being in India and not Ghana or Nigeria.

Just so you know, I know a bit about Internet scams, and your post strikes me as ignorant and American-centric.  There are plenty of people in other countries who are into BDSM.  Some of them even have profiles on CM.  Some of them aren't even white.  There's almost no scammer traffic based in India.  I agree with greenearth, and I would strongly advise you to take your own advice and do more than five minutes of research if you are going to pretend you are a big dick expert on the internet.


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RE: Indian Mistress - 7/28/2009 6:08:31 PM   
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There's almost no scammer traffic based in India.


Wherever you got that from, it is wrong. There is a substantial amount of scamming and phishing going on from India. Over the past couple of years, the situtation has improved a little, as the major network providers have tightened up their server rules, and free Indian email addresses are policed better, but I see about half as much spamming and phishing traffic coming from India as I see from mainland China. The US, of course, continues to outstrip all other sources.

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RE: Indian Mistress - 7/28/2009 6:09:57 PM   
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Status: offline 		I agree with your comment about phishing, etc.  I was speaking specifically about romance scams.

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RE: Indian Mistress - 7/28/2009 6:22:26 PM   
antipode


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Mistresses from India on collarme.com? I just contacted a few who claim to want a real slave 24/7


There will be a small percentage that's real, but the vast majority are scams. Beyond that, not knowing anything about where you would be heading, you run two risks. One is to be arrested and deported - the Indian authorities have very strict policies where sex tourism is concerned, they are fighting a battle against becoming another Thailand, hard when you consider the size of the country.

And, much though I love India, where I have managed departments, and spent much quality time, "ripping off the Westerner" is a national sport. India, in my personal experience, is much worse off, in that respect, than any other Asian country I have spent time in (in most cases, professionally, not as a tourist). My advice is that if you know someone locally who can investigate, have them pretend they're you, and then take their advice. If you have nobody, I would forget it. Over the past few years, tourist murders have increased in number, first in Goya, then in various other Indian locales, and the police will be no help to you, beyond making sure you get out of the country.

Even if you get through all that, hygiene is virtually non-existent in much of India, where most people cannot afford toilet paper, and tuberculosis is endemic (I know this from experience, testing positive after my first trip, predicted by my physician - and I didn't do anything with anybody, other than eat in restaurants with them). This is a country where almost nobody has internet, my software engineers in Chennai would share two 64K ISDN lines in their apartment building, and consider that broadband.

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RE: Indian Mistress - 7/28/2009 6:26:55 PM   
antipode


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romance scams


Wrong also. It is aimed more at Britain than the US, since the immigration barrier is lower for former British colonies, but there's lots of it.

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RE: Indian Mistress - 7/28/2009 6:35:30 PM   
RedMagic1


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Status: offline 		Ok, so #1 we are talking about CollarMe, not the world in general, and that was the context of my remarks.  But also #2, I won't post links here because most of them include black lists, but if you google "romance scams" or "marriage scams," site after site focuses on Nigeria, Ghana, Russia and the Philippines.  Could you please provide a link to back up your claim that there is heavy romance scam traffic from India into the UK?

In the case of CollarMe, virtually all the Asia-based scams appear to be based in Zamboanga, Philippines.


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RE: Indian Mistress - 7/28/2009 7:37:50 PM   
servantforuse


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RE: Indian Mistress - 7/29/2009 12:40:15 AM   
Malkinius


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Status: offline 		Greetings RedMagic1....

quote:

ORIGINAL: RedMagic1
Just so you know, I know a bit about Internet scams, and your post strikes me as ignorant and American-centric.  There are plenty of people in other countries who are into BDSM.  Some of them even have profiles on CM.  Some of them aren't even white.  There's almost no scammer traffic based in India.  I agree with greenearth, and I would strongly advise you to take your own advice and do more than five minutes of research if you are going to pretend you are a big dick expert on the internet.


Well...since my computer usage predates the internet....I was online and internetworked about the time you were in grade school. <grins> I have seen the development of hacking/viruses/trojans/phishing/419 scams/etc. come and go. There are scammers everywhere. There are just more in some areas. The reality is that yes, there are some kinky people in the western world BDSM sense all over the world. The chances of finding any of them in some areas approaches zero. Nigeria, Ghana, and that area are places you can assume that everyone contacting you is trying to scam you. The exceptions are so few that the chances of finding them are not worth the time to do so. India is not as bad, but in general, I assume that if you are not watching for the scammers they will find you.

I have been making a game out of finding and reporting some of them on here. Most make the same few errors and it is a mildly fun pastime.

Be well....

Malkinius


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RE: Indian Mistress - 7/29/2009 12:52:54 AM   
DMFParadox


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Status: offline 		Simple. Ask for proof:

- if they can come up with a unique and interesting history of bondage experiences,
- if they know their toys,
- if they scene with you 'cyber' and do a fairly authentic job of it,
- if they are willing to go on cam with you,
- if they can recite the secret BDSM club password,

they are legit.

EDIT: I should add that I'm aware of the power of Google, for indulging in fake expertise. And of the fact that there may be some indian mistress that's perfect for you but can't afford the connection fees to do all this proving. There is no perfect answer, but there are better options than a wish and a prayer.

Never be afraid to ask a Master or Mistress to prove their worth. In my experience, it never offended me and when I succeeded in being 'Domly' enough the rewards were well worth any mild irritation I felt. Think of it as a encryption handshake; you're just one lil' personal computer challenging a big mean old server, but the server will still go through the effort of proving itself to you in order to establish a connection. Once the connection is there, THEN the fun begins. ^_^

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RE: Indian Mistress - 7/29/2009 5:33:00 AM   
serverbob


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Status: offline 		I am no authority on scams or the internet, but I am something of an authority on Bullshit.  Usually, if something doesn't make sense, beware.  In the case of Indian/Pakastani/Israeli, etc. "Mistresses" on collarme, my Bullshit meter goes through the roof.  I mean think about it, if someone is legitimate, they are likely to use a site that will get them local traffic.  Collarme is mostly a US site with a few Australians and Brits.  What are the chances of actually meeting up with these people from the other end of the world?  Is someone from Singapore really likely to find a match on a site that is 99% American?  I don't think so, much more likely they can give a sob story and get a few hundred dollars from some poor guy (or woman) in the US who has more passion than common sense.  If I lived in India, I would look to Indian sites for someone to date.

I am not suggesting that it isn't possible that some or even all of these posters are frauds, I really have no hard facts to go on.  It just sounds like bilgewater and nonsense to me.  I would be VERY cautious.

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RE: Indian Mistress - 7/29/2009 9:03:25 AM   
antipode


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Could you please provide a link to back up your claim that there is heavy romance scam traffic from India into the UK?


I don't provide internal tracking information on public forums, nor do I get into data security discussions with people I don't know. As to the scam traffic from India to the UK, the London Metropolitan Police serves as central repository for UK based and aimed internet crime; ask them.

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RE: Indian Mistress - 7/29/2009 11:27:39 AM   
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Has anybody actually met any of the Mistresses from India


I ought to add than many of the scammers are after any information they can get out of you, including your IP address, which they can sell to botnet creators. Although most consumers get a changeable IP address from the DHCP their ISP provides, many of these addresses don't change often, especially if you leave your PC on all the time. Most email applications include the sender's IP address in the header. Typically, the scammer will want to chat - at some point, you'll mail the chat address - and they have your IP address. As many scammers use Yahoo, which lets them chat at an internet cafe without needing a chat application, Yahoo mail and chat are the first to avoid, with MSN/Hotmail/Live a close second. Google Mail (gmail) blocks the sender's IP address, and is probably the safest email application to use. Using an anonymizer, like Socksify, is good too - when I send you an email from D.C., the IP address will live in Houston, LA or NYC, and can't be traced back to my router. Putting a router, WiFi or otherwise, on your internet modem, even if you do not have a network, is helpful too, as routers have built in firewalls, use IP address translation, and many hackers are looking for a pathway into your MS Windows, which, if you have a router on your modem, they can't easily get to.

I personally make sure I use an application that requires the other party to load software on their computer, like Skype. Making sure they own a computer, or that they have access to a system they can install software on, is a good way to weed out the chaff. Same thing with webcams - they don't have a webcam, they're fake. Most digital cameras, including the ones that are $30 at Wal-Mart, double as a webcam, and a simple webcam by itself costs $19, if that. If they have a million excuses why they can't use this and don't have that, they're fake, plain and simple.

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