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awmslave -> RE: tributes ???? (8/6/2009 9:24:15 PM)

In most cases it is obvious what "tribute" means. If not, then ask. Financial domination (as a fetish) is actually real. I was close friend to a domme who felt genuine pleasure forcing subs give her expensive gifts or borrowing money from subs and not paying back.




thishereboi -> RE: tributes ???? (8/7/2009 4:41:42 AM)

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ORIGINAL: awmslave

In most cases it is obvious what "tribute" means. If not, then ask. Financial domination (as a fetish) is actually real. I was close friend to a domme who felt genuine pleasure forcing subs give her expensive gifts or borrowing money from subs and not paying back.


When a domme asks for gifts or tributes, that is between her and the sub. If the sub is into financial domination then it is all good.

When someone (domme or otherwise) BORROWS money from someone they are implying that they will pay them back. If your friend borrows money on a regular basis and does not pay people back, she is dishonest and a user.

How the hell can a sub trust their domme when she lies like that. I know I wouldn't put up with it on either side of the kneel.




hardbodysub -> RE: tributes ???? (8/7/2009 4:58:14 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Surata

It depends on each dominant. I ask for tribute as a joke to chase off online wankers (but I never accept it). Works every time.


It also chases off many serious subs who see your tribute requirement as a sign that you're either a phony or a pro.
You're throwing out the baby with the bath water.




Arillis -> RE: tributes ???? (8/7/2009 6:10:44 AM)

Tribute may not be the right word, just as a book of poetry may not be viewed as a gift of value.
A case in point, the book I mentioned was given to a lady not as a tribute, certainly not but as a parting gift. Along with the book were two sculpts done in exquisite crystal. The sculptures were over a 100 years old and D/s in nature. The book was a work done in the early 17 century, a heart rendering poetic depicting of a slaves all encompassing love.

The lady found little value in either the sculpts or a beat-up old book until she attempted to sell them After visiting the book dealer she called telling me she had no idea and I told her she still didn’t, if it were about money I would have handed her $10,000.00 and it would have been cheaper. Even today she remains without a clue of what the gift meant to me in giving it.




XYisInferior -> RE: tributes ???? (8/7/2009 9:55:58 AM)


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ORIGINAL: hardbodysub


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ORIGINAL: Surata

It depends on each dominant. I ask for tribute as a joke to chase off online wankers (but I never accept it). Works every time.


It also chases off many serious subs who see your tribute requirement as a sign that you're either a phony or a pro.
You're throwing out the baby with the bath water.


And then there are many self-labeled "serious submissives" that are still undesirable to many seriously dominant Women. Sometimes a cheap, cynical man who assumes "fake" or "pro" when tribute is mentioned is more than welcome in voting with his feet.




PeonForHer -> RE: tributes ???? (8/7/2009 10:27:40 AM)

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ORIGINAL: hardbodysub


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ORIGINAL: Surata

It depends on each dominant. I ask for tribute as a joke to chase off online wankers (but I never accept it). Works every time.


It also chases off many serious subs who see your tribute requirement as a sign that you're either a phony or a pro.
You're throwing out the baby with the bath water.

Yes, on the whole I agree.  It could put me off.  In the UK, especially, it seems that pro-dommes seem to want to disguise what they are.  I've never found out why - I've assumed they're covered legally and it's perfectly honourable way of earning a crust. 

Still, there are often signs that a woman's not a pro despite her demanding a tribute.  The biggest, for me, is that she'll talk about vanilla interests - indicating that she does actually care about the sub's vanilla interests, too.  If there are these signs, I might ask her 'What sort of tribute?'




XYisInferior -> RE: tributes ???? (8/7/2009 11:19:02 AM)


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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

In the UK, especially, it seems that pro-dommes seem to want to disguise what they are.

Still, there are often signs that a woman's not a pro despite her demanding a tribute.  The biggest, for me, is that she'll talk about vanilla interests - indicating that she does actually care about the sub's vanilla interests, too.


I'd say, particularly given the underscored line above, that sometimes speaking about "vanilla" interests has no real bearing on "realness" or not. It's probably relevant to point out that a pro is often "real" too about who and what She is. She can have both clients and personal slaves, but be cautious about who She lets into Her inner circle. In short, the lines can and do blur quite often. For this reason, an absolute definition of a "pro" (especially suggesting pro=phony) is pretty hard to make stick in the real world.


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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer
If there are these signs, I might ask her 'What sort of tribute?'


Many who demand tribute are fairly up front about it before the deep fireside chats—at least in my experience here in the USA. But out of morbid curiosity, if She gives a sum to be paid after some hopeful vanilla conversation, what then?




MistressRouge -> RE: tributes ???? (8/7/2009 11:22:00 AM)

Tribute = gift, money, token of appreciation.




PeonForHer -> RE: tributes ???? (8/7/2009 11:30:58 AM)

Fair enough.  Instead of "pro-dommes disguising what they are", I should have said "someone who initially wants to disguise the fact that she wants a pro-domme with me".  I think if she were to demand a sum of money as a 'tribute' then I'd move on.  I can't form relationships in that way. 




Arillis -> RE: tributes ???? (8/7/2009 12:29:42 PM)

PeonForHer, I understand without relating to your comment “I think if she were to demand a sum of money as a 'tribute' then I'd move on. I can't form relationships in that way.” I too would not form a relationship based solely on commercialism or predicated upon dollars. Neither would I form a relationship based on emotion or passion alone.
A relationship is far more complex then either dollars or emotions but I don’t need or want a relationship or a bonding in any manner with a woman that isn’t intrigued by and passionately drawn to me as a man first and foremost.




XYisInferior -> RE: tributes ???? (8/7/2009 12:42:08 PM)


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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

Fair enough.  Instead of "pro-dommes disguising what they are", I should have said "someone who initially wants to disguise the fact that she wants a pro-domme with me".  I think if she were to demand a sum of money as a 'tribute' then I'd move on.  I can't form relationships in that way. 


The "pros" I know are rather up front about that sort of stuff, often with the proviso that if the admirer / client displays enough integrity and enthusiasm—and are so inclined to want to know Her—they may have the opportunity to do so (and even serve) on a more personal level. It's too bad you've experienced a different kind of "pro" across the pond.





MistressRouge -> RE: tributes ???? (8/7/2009 4:42:38 PM)


Very well said.

I have lifestyle slaves, some initially started as pro clients, others I handpicked accordingly from munches, clubs and meetings :) I have 8 none-tribute slaves now, my stable is growing [:D]


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ORIGINAL: XYisInferior


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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

Fair enough.  Instead of "pro-dommes disguising what they are", I should have said "someone who initially wants to disguise the fact that she wants a pro-domme with me".  I think if she were to demand a sum of money as a 'tribute' then I'd move on.  I can't form relationships in that way. 


The "pros" I know are rather up front about that sort of stuff, often with the proviso that if the admirer / client displays enough integrity and enthusiasm—and are so inclined to want to know Her—they may have the opportunity to do so (and even serve) on a more personal level. It's too bad you've experienced a different kind of "pro" across the pond.







Politesub53 -> RE: tributes ???? (8/7/2009 4:55:45 PM)

Im always amazed at these tribute threads, its so simple to work out its untrue.

If you want a romance type relationship you are hardly likely to pay tribute.

If the person asking for tribute seems like a scammer, whats the big deal, dont send any money

If you wish to visit a Pro Domme who may have expensive chambers to run, why should you get it for free. Why should she see you for free and not have her time covered.

If the word tribute is in a profile and it annoys you, just move on.

Whats the big deal here guys, really.




AlexandraLynch -> RE: tributes ???? (8/7/2009 11:53:22 PM)

It's pretty simple for me.
I have a live-in sub. He just carried in all my groceries, and brought me a soda while I sat and dealt with the broken foot having a tantrum due to walking through the supermarket. And when the foot settles, I'll have him put his head in my lap and I'll play with his hair. (I love hair.) And then he'll brush mine out and braid it and I'll go to bed.

The guy living four hundred miles away from me can't do any of that. But he can buy me a book to read, or bath salts. He can pay for me to go get my hair done. So that's fair. And I'm upfront about that.




hoiman -> RE: tributes ???? (8/8/2009 10:46:27 AM)

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LadyPact -> RE: tributes ???? (8/8/2009 11:17:02 AM)

Tribute = Easiest way to shut up those who aren't serious.  [8D]




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