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Virtual Master online - from a masters point of view. - 7/31/2009 11:58:50 AM

DrStrangeLug

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I'm reprhasing this because my last post of it was considered a double post.

I've been informed of a program called Virtual Master, whereby subs can simulate being controlled, or it can be used as a training tool by a real master.

My thought was, would a web based version be usefull, a site where you can browse slaves and audition them with the process, or they could go on autopilot with simulated masters as a sort of practice mode.

I was interested in general opinions from master on this. I've asked the subs already and some are for and some are against.

(You can only consider this a double post if you consider a master to be the same thing as a slave - I've asked two very similary but different posts).

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RE: Virtual Master online - from a masters point of view. - 7/31/2009 12:11:45 PM

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I would say that it is an excersize in triviality.

To me being a Dominant is more than the random tasks and time lines I give my girls. It is about purpose and discipline. A Computer Program will not be taking certain things into account such as Elegance and Commitment. It will display the timelines and the overall ability to structure tacks and organize things to maintain the programs requirements. It cannot show if the girl is enjoying the acts, if the girl is struggling with the Internal Aspects of the requests only that they get done.

A Virtual Program no matter HOW good is still flawed as it cannot weigh the situations based on desired expectations.

I like that the Internet connected many people who normally would never have known the other existed but it is things like this program that continue to remind me that for many people this lifestyle is a game or a series of tasks with the ultimate goal of getting an atta-boy. I am sick of this particular class within our overall community, not because I do not think that they are real or that they belong but because the distance between us MENTALLY speaking is so far as to make it nearly impossible to communicate.

I would have to say that I think the program is just another form of mental masturbation for those who would rather sit behind a screen rather than get out and meet a real person.

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RE: Virtual Master online - from a masters point of view. - 7/31/2009 1:02:07 PM

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what Steel said.

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RE: Virtual Master online - from a masters point of view. - 7/31/2009 1:23:26 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: DrStrangeLug

I'm reprhasing this because my last post of it was considered a double post.

I've been informed of a program called Virtual Master, whereby subs can simulate being controlled, or it can be used as a training tool by a real master.

My thought was, would a web based version be usefull, a site where you can browse slaves and audition them with the process, or they could go on autopilot with simulated masters as a sort of practice mode.

I was interested in general opinions from master on this. I've asked the subs already and some are for and some are against.
Umm actually I think it was just me who was for it..and I was joking.
(Unless you really can recreate the scenes from 2001: A Space Odyssey including the Hal voice.)

(You can only consider this a double post if you consider a master to be the same thing as a slave - I've asked two very similary but different posts).

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RE: Virtual Master online - from a masters point of view. - 7/31/2009 1:24:44 PM

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I think that it might be interesting for limited use -- perhaps when ones servant will be traveling alone, or while one is on the road, leaving one's servant(s) at home... that it might provide both parties with a sense of connection and a simulation and reminder of what they are sharing between them.

Also, for some individuals, being physically present -with- the ones who are submitting isn't possible, either immediately, or, in some cases, not in any foreseeable future. I can see how something like this program might enhance their dynamic, just as a framework from which to build.

As far as whether I would actually ever -use- it or not... well, I don't see myself using it -now-, but I am reluctant to say "never", since one can't be certain what the future will bring.

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RE: Virtual Master online - from a masters point of view. - 7/31/2009 1:33:38 PM

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I've seen such software before, and honestly I haven't found any real use for it.

If I want a task scheduler that a slave can refer to during the day as a reminder of "Things To Do"... there is far better software available that does exactly that. Perhaps potentially more useful would be something that I can upload to her blackberry or phone... shopping lists, "btw, on your way home pick up...." lists, things to do, appointments to keep, etc.

My question would be, what need is there for a D/s specific version of such software... beyond the novelty? I already have software on my computer that keeps appointments and schedules, it is even capable of speaking aloud and reading the reminders if I'm not actually at my computer. What would some other software offer in the way of utility that doesn't already exist?

If you can find some utility for it to offer that isn't currently available in other software... you might have something. Otherwise, I think it'll just be another novelty item for geeks.

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RE: Virtual Master online - from a masters point of view. - 7/31/2009 5:49:35 PM

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Is this a joke? It's about as good as a virtual slave.

Mike

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RE: Virtual Master online - from a masters point of view. - 8/1/2009 1:16:04 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: SteelofUtah

I would say that it is an excersize in triviality.

I would have to say that I think the program is just another form of mental masturbation for those who would rather sit behind a screen rather than get out and meet a real person.

Steel

Agree with this. Way too many people hide behind the net and become convinced that this is real. Like the people that want to be my "friend" because they have chatted for a couple of minutes on messenger. To me it cheapens the meaning of friendship just as a Virtual Master cheapens the idea of a M/s relationship.

oops posted by a sub...... because in this virtual world, I can

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RE: Virtual Master online - from a masters point of view. - 8/1/2009 7:14:52 AM

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Sounds like the program is about as useful as a blow-up doll with a pussy hole in it. Like Coke, there is nothing like the real thing..

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RE: Virtual Master online - from a masters point of view. - 8/1/2009 7:58:48 AM

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If the extent of the relationship(s) you seek is virtual, then it would work fine. Otherwise, no.

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RE: Virtual Master online - from a masters point of view. - 8/1/2009 8:11:12 AM

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From a sub's point of view, I would not waste my time auditioning for strange guys, and I am uninterested in obeying orders that have no rational basis, or that are one size fits all.

Meaning if he doesn't know me, how can he tell if he should tell me to go to bed by ten or by midnight? And if he does know me, and knows I'm asleep by 11 all the time, then why waste time with an order to do just that?

What use is a 'simulated master'? There's no connection there, no chemistry. Yes I'm submissive, but not to all and any. Only to one. A computer program can never be my one.

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RE: Virtual Master online - from a masters point of view. - 8/1/2009 9:40:32 AM

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quote:

My thought was, would a web based version be usefull,

Considering the vast numbers of cyberfreaks on the interwebthingie, might very well be. But you will not get relevant answers in forums, because the majority of the cyberfreaks don't hang out in forums. They're more the instant gratification set, probably more in chat rooms. Having said that, with the number of males doing internet-only things, I am not seeing where the need would be. The cybermastersirlordkings do a very good simulation of really badly written software.

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RE: Virtual Master online - from a masters point of view. - 8/1/2009 10:23:44 AM

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Be like Steel. Don't mental masturbate do it for real. antipode I dissagree with you. You can get very informative answers by reading the forms. Don't stay in one section of the forums use the other sections also.

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RE: Virtual Master online - from a masters point of view. - 8/1/2009 4:06:24 PM

SteelofUtah

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Dnomyar

Be like Steel. Don't mental masturbate do it for real.

Damn Raymond Are my Hairy Palms THAT Obvious? I had always played it off that I am Half Wookie.

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RE: Virtual Master online - from a masters point of view. - 8/1/2009 9:16:29 PM

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Sounds like D/s for the profoundly lazy. What's the freakin' point?!
Davan

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RE: Virtual Master online - from a masters point of view. - 8/2/2009 5:49:39 AM

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It is rather challenging (even daunting) to try to understand those who seek or accept non-human sources for sex and even emotional comfort. But people have been exhibiting this same behavior with sexual fetishes for thousands of years. Even higher animals sometimes develop fetishes. I think people can do this sort of thing because we imagine. The same capacity that allows us to immerse ourselves in a book or movie or interactive game and, for a short while, suspend reality in favor of the fantasy allows us to get psychosexual gratification from a non-human and even non-living source because we create or "imbue" the object or process or whatever we fetishize with meaning. The literature on fetishism is extensive. If I remember correctly, Different Loving touched intelligently upon this topic as it relates to bdsm fetishes but there is also a huge body of literature about sexual fetishism in general.

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RE: Virtual Master online - from a masters point of view. - 8/2/2009 2:10:42 PM

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For the current time it works for me && in some ways I change or bend what it says just based on who I am:
virtual master: clean the kitchen. That would be nice if I had one. I have a fridge && microwave on top of each other, I cleaned them && my bathroom to kind of make up for it though.
"He" can't know my entire life. "He" is a computer program.
They however do have the slave training program, which any master can alter and program to what he likes and even the virtual master you can go into the readme file and change as you wish.
I think it works for some, and not for others.

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RE: Virtual Master online - from a masters point of view. - 8/2/2009 8:09:23 PM

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You raise an interesting point regarding motivation, SubmissiveAbbi. I know that there are times when I am (Or ought to be doing something) that thinking if I were doing it for someone dear to me, that would light a fire under me. I have also heard/read people propose keeping one's self in generalized readiness for a potential Master (Interestingly enough, haven't heard of the converse...that's another topic entirely, I suppose, though) and if you need the structure that the program provides to feel more purposeful, I see that as making far more sense than someone using the program within the context of a relationship. Thanks for the different track of thought. :>
Davan

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RE: Virtual Master online - from a masters point of view. - 8/3/2009 12:17:29 PM

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Well, I've been doing the virtual D/s thing for almost a year now. My Dom and I have had some physical contact, twice to be exact. Otherwise, it's all been online. Personally, I can't handle it. We live in the same town for god's sake, and I need the here and now, physical real time. I respect him greatly, but I had to ask to be released today. I'm terribly sad, but I know we would never get to the kind of relationship I need.

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RE: Virtual Master online - from a masters point of view. - 8/3/2009 12:30:04 PM

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quote:

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Well, I've been doing the virtual D/s thing for almost a year now. My Dom and I have had some physical contact, twice to be exact. Otherwise, it's all been online. Personally, I can't handle it. We live in the same town for god's sake, and I need the here and now, physical real time. I respect him greatly, but I had to ask to be released today. I'm terribly sad, but I know we would never get to the kind of relationship I need.

Mu condolences.
I feel for you and have been through similar.
There can be loneliness in this lifestyle.
But have faith.
Where there is a vacuum there will come something, someone, so much better to fill your needs.

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