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victorian lifestyle? - 2/21/2006 2:21:23 AM   
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Status: offline 		an curious (sp?) I did a surch of the message board and found mention of victirian lifestyle but nothing that even begins to explan what is ment by this. I saw it in the profiles section and the only thing that came to mind was a pbs special called the 1800's house. aside from dresseing in period clothing what might this entail? i am not expecting a full discorse on it but a rough sketch would be greatly apreciated.

thank u All who wish to respond.

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RE: victorian lifestyle? - 2/21/2006 4:40:51 AM   
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RE: victorian lifestyle? - 2/21/2006 8:38:50 AM   
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Status: offline 		this slave would like to add to Elegant's fabulous advice that slave catherine also has an established yahoo group: therestrainingorder--"a peek into the life of a slave". there isn't much discussion, if any, just her postings about her daily activities, her thoughts and feelings and the events and socializing that they do. it has been very interesting to this slave to peek into her world!! the few times that this slave has commented on something, asked a question, or wished her well, she has always been very gracious with her response.

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RE: victorian lifestyle? - 2/21/2006 8:50:32 AM   
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RE: victorian lifestyle? - 2/21/2006 11:04:20 PM   
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Status: offline 		How very fascinating, I've always been fascinated by the Victorian era but had never considered it able to be adapted to fit my lifestyle.

Now I have some thinking to do. ;)

Thank you very much for this topic.

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RE: victorian lifestyle? - 2/21/2006 11:35:01 PM   
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Status: offline 		The Victorians were silly people, I find the idea of having to cover tables over with long table cloths in case the gentlemen of the house see the table legs and fall into a fit of erotic apoplexy quite amusing.

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RE: victorian lifestyle? - 2/22/2006 10:38:29 PM   
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an curious (sp?) I did a surch of the message board and found mention of victirian lifestyle but nothing that even begins to explan what is ment by this. I saw it in the profiles section and the only thing that came to mind was a pbs special called the 1800's house. aside from dresseing in period clothing what might this entail? i am not expecting a full discorse on it but a rough sketch would be greatly apreciated.



I believe the program was called "Manor House," and it reflected more the Edwardian era than Victorian. It was a fascinating series, and I would recommend it to anyone with an interest in the kind of history lessons one doesn't find in your average textbook. The workings of that household are actually something Master and I have been working towards - to a degree.

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RE: victorian lifestyle? - 2/22/2006 11:42:18 PM   
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Status: offline 		That's just the version they told in polite company. In fact, they were more concerned that the LADIES might see the table legs and succumb to the urge to rub their cunts against them.

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The Victorians were silly people, I find the idea of having to cover tables over with long table cloths in case the gentlemen of the house see the table legs and fall into a fit of erotic apoplexy quite amusing.


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RE: victorian lifestyle? - 2/22/2006 11:50:06 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Lordandmaster

That's just the version they told in polite company. In fact, they were more concerned that the LADIES might see the table legs and succumb to the urge to rub their cunts against them.

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ORIGINAL: MstrTiger

The Victorians were silly people, I find the idea of having to cover tables over with long table cloths in case the gentlemen of the house see the table legs and fall into a fit of erotic apoplexy quite amusing.




Ahh. So -that's- why it was? *laughs* Thanks for the history lesson.

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RE: victorian lifestyle? - 2/23/2006 2:17:36 AM   
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That's just the version they told in polite company. In fact, they were more concerned that the LADIES might see the table legs and succumb to the urge to rub their cunts against them.


That plays such havok with ones french polish! Definatly to be avoided with ones Chippendale

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RE: victorian lifestyle? - 2/23/2006 2:37:53 AM   
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Status: offline 		thank Y/you all very much for responding, the links were very helpfull. and I am sorry I had my hundreds confused it was called the 1900s house, I looked it up to cheak. they also did the 1940'a house and the manor house and one more that i have forgoten.

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RE: victorian lifestyle? - 2/23/2006 3:59:40 AM   
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thank Y/you all very much for responding, the links were very helpfull. and I am sorry I had my hundreds confused it was called the 1900s house, I looked it up to cheak. they also did the 1940'a house and the manor house and one more that i have forgoten.


Frontier House would be the other one. "Manor House" was originally shot as "Edwardian House", but the name was changed for American audiences because <koff> they didn't think we Americans would know when the Edwardian era was (for those of you scracthing your heads - it was right after the Victorian era - aka early 1900s).

Alright. Geek moment coming on.

The Victorian era was commonly known as the "Golden Age of Servants". While there tends not to be a huge amount of information online about Victorian BDSM households, there is a huge amount of information out there on servants of that era, what their specific duties were, manners, what their life really was like. My suggestion? Incorporate concepts that you enjoy into your life and toss the rest.

So, I grabbed a stack of books and such off my bookshelf for a mini-resource guide to servants in the Victorian/Edwardian eras:

DVD:

Gosford Park
Remains of the Day
Manor House (ahem...Edwardian House)
Upstairs, Downstairs (BBC series)
Duchess of Duke Street (BBC series)

Books:

My two favorites, that break down types of servants & specific duties:

The Rise and Fall of the Victorian Servant, Pamela Horn
Life Below Stairs, Frank Huggett

other books:

Manor House: LIfe in an Edwardian Country House, Juliet Gardiner (the book that goes with the series)
Not In Front of the Servants, Frank Victor Dawes
Behind The Scenes, Christina Hardyment
Life IN The English Country House, Mark Girouard
Roberts' Guide for Bulters & other Household Staff, Robert Roberts

Practical useful info for the "modern" Victorian servant:

Dinner Is Served, Arthur Inch
A Butler's Life, Christopher Allen

And about the era in general:

Inventing the Victorians: what we think we know about them and why we're wrong, Matthew Sweet

Most of these books are in fact out of print, but with by using the used book functions on amazon.com and other online used book sellers like abebooks.com, you can typically find them for a reasonable price.

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RE: victorian lifestyle? - 2/23/2006 4:49:02 AM   
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Upstairs, Downstairs (BBC series)
Duchess of Duke Street (BBC series)


Oooh, I loved those series. I may have to go watch Upstairs, Downstairs later after I've read all the boards.



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RE: victorian lifestyle? - 2/23/2006 4:59:16 AM   
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Oooh, I loved those series. I may have to go watch Upstairs, Downstairs later after I've read all the boards.



Gosford Park is probably a better condensed version if you just want to observe the interaction between servants and The Family, but yep....I love Upstairs Downstairs too.

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RE: victorian lifestyle? - 2/23/2006 5:17:52 AM   
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Oooh, I loved those series. I may have to go watch Upstairs, Downstairs later after I've read all the boards.



Gosford Park is probably a better condensed version if you just want to observe the interaction between servants and The Family, but yep....I love Upstairs Downstairs too.


I adore Gosford Park, but it's been ages since I've watched Upstairs Downstairs...damn, nope, can't do it. I've got to settle with "Sense and Sensibility" *is such a period drama geek. ^_^

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RE: victorian lifestyle? - 2/23/2006 5:25:16 AM   
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I adore Gosford Park, but it's been ages since I've watched Upstairs Downstairs...damn, nope, can't do it. I've got to settle with "Sense and Sensibility" *is such a period drama geek. ^_^



LOL I just used a clip from "Remains of the Day" as a visual aid for a communications presentation - Stevens inability to listen to Ms Kent because of prejudices

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RE: victorian lifestyle? - 2/23/2006 5:15:00 PM   
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LOL I just used a clip from "Remains of the Day" as a visual aid for a communications presentation - Stevens inability to listen to Ms Kent because of prejudices


I'm so glad I'm not the only one who does/did stuff like that.. :)

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RE: victorian lifestyle? - 2/23/2006 7:13:44 PM   
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Status: offline 		Have you seen (Her Majesty) Mrs. Brown? Judi Dench & Billy Connelly. Fantastic movie, about Queen Victoria in her mourning period.

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RE: victorian lifestyle? - 2/23/2006 9:51:42 PM   
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Status: offline 		*shifty eyes* I own it. It's good, but I adore Billy Connelly. "The Man Who Sued God" Is another fave of his.

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RE: victorian lifestyle? - 2/23/2006 10:01:15 PM   
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Status: offline 		~ grin ~ i own it too. He was fantastic in that movie. Never heard of the other movie. Will look it up - thanks!! By the way, you are the only one i know who knows of Mrs. Brown.

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