ElanSubdued
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Just a few (admittedly) knee jerk replies to responses I've seen thus far. As follows: quote:
LillyoftheVally wrote: Thing is, and I have said this a few times, if you want to submit then you have to submit to the will of another. That can mean that if they do not want to then they can fuck off for months without talking to you, of course you have to decide if you can cope with that or not. This may look great on paper, but it doesn't work worth beans in actual relationships. A more realistic question to your close is "as a dominant, do you value your partner"? Because, most certainly, if you ignore your partner for days and months on end, it's not likely you'll hold onto them. quote:
LillyoftheVally wrote: One would hope that the responsibility of the dominant is two things, to be happy and ensure the submissives safety, the submissives responsibility is to enjoy ensuring the dominants happiness. This is another example of "looks great on paper", but no so much so in real life. In successful relationships, it has been my experience that all partners are invested and actively engaged in each other's happiness. quote:
cloudboy wrote: It's funny, because I just don't subscribe to the BDSM school of thought that dominants have all the power and can do whatever they want. Short term, that might work, but after that I'd expect HEAVY turnover. Dominants have a responsibility to their partner and their relationship, and if they fail in those areas -- the relationship won't work. I'd may have written this differently (possibly in a more egalitarian way), but essentially I think this is a home run. :-) Indeed, relationships are a two-way street that require commitment and responsibility from all partners. quote:
LadyNTrainer wrote: For the submissive: 1. I feel loved when: 2. I feel dominated when: 3. I feel controlled when: 4. I feel appreciated and valued when: 5. I feel securely owned when: 6. I feel attractive and desirable when: For the dominant: 1. I feel loved when: 2. I feel the desire to be dominant when: 3. I feel confident in my dominance when: 4. I feel appreciated and valued when: 5. I feel secure in my ownership and dominance when: 6. I feel attractive and desirable when: Share your answers, and listen without judging or criticizing. There are no right or wrong answers, only honest ones. For the purposes of your discussion, the word "should" does not exist, and you are not allowed to use it in reference to your partner's feelings. Wow. This is excellent advice. I've yet to see a healthy, long-term relationship that doesn't include liberal amounts of communication, understanding, patience, learning, and compromise from all partners involved. LadyNTrainer, thanks for sharing such a useful recipe for extinguishing hidden expectations and encouraging communication. Elan.
< Message edited by ElanSubdued -- 8/5/2009 9:25:20 PM >
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