Collarspace Discussion Forums


Home  Login  Search 

The Grim Reaper and the Corporate Behemoth


View related threads: (in this forum | in all forums)

Logged in as: Guest
 
All Forums >> [Community Discussions] >> Dungeon of Political and Religious Discussion >> The Grim Reaper and the Corporate Behemoth Page: [1]
Login
Message << Older Topic   Newer Topic >>
The Grim Reaper and the Corporate Behemoth - 8/12/2009 7:15:56 AM   
CallaFirestormBW


Posts: 3651
Joined: 6/29/2008
Status: offline 		We've had such fun with Tazzy's thread speculating on the end of organized religion that I thought I'd take things in a divergent but similar direction. (Thank you, tazzy, for the idea!)

I woke up this morning wondering what would happen if, tomorrow, the concept of incorporation and the creation of corporate "legal" entities/persons were to end, and there was no possibility of restoring the concept.
  • What do you think would happen to businesses ethics if every business had to answer to its immediate clientele, suppliers, and local community?
  • What do you think would happen if there were no more 'chains' and megacorporations?
  • What do you think would happen to the legal system if there were no way to hide from our responsibilities on EITHER side of the tort issue -- IE, there were no major corporations to get millions of dollars in settlements from, because the place you bought your coffee was just a neighborhood mom and pop -and- there was no "legal corporate person" to hide behind if a manufacturer or businessman decided to put out shoddy goods or steal from his employees or customers?

Imagine.

Dame Calla

< Message edited by CallaFirestormBW -- 8/12/2009 7:16:36 AM >

_____________________________

***
Said to me recently: "Look, I know you're the "voice of reason"... but dammit, I LIKE being unreasonable!!!!"

"Your mind is more interested in the challenge of becoming than the challenge of doing." Jon Benson, Bodybuilder/Trainer
Profile   Post #: 1
RE: The Grim Reaper and the Corporate Behemoth - 8/12/2009 7:25:34 AM   
Musicmystery


Posts: 30259
Joined: 3/14/2005
Status: offline 		It wouldn't matter. International multicorporations are so integral today that first the entire economy would collapse.

Local stores/consumers aren't much use if they've no assets. The vast majority of Americans have no savings at all, and most are seriously in debt.

There would be total chaos. Law and order would be nonexistent (it costs money). The government would probably have to turn to martial law, but it's a very big country, and the government needs revenue and assets too. We would have to rebuild from the chaos.

And speaking of business ethics--how many consumers happily pay more from less efficient local operations? Large business exists because the largest force by far in the economy, consumers (2/3 of GDP), support them.

People bitch. If they couldn't bitch about corporations, they'd bitch about the corner store.


< Message edited by Musicmystery -- 8/12/2009 7:38:17 AM >

(in reply to CallaFirestormBW)
Profile   Post #: 2
RE: The Grim Reaper and the Corporate Behemoth - 8/12/2009 7:31:40 AM   
Mercnbeth


Posts: 11766
Status: offline
quote:

What do you think would happen to businesses ethics if every business had to answer to its immediate clientele, suppliers, and local community?
They do - if business immediate clientele, suppliers and the local community doesn't buy their product or service they close.
quote:

What do you think would happen if there were no more 'chains' and megacorporations?
Prices would increase due to the reduced buying power.
quote:

What do you think would happen to the legal system if there were no way to hide from our responsibilities on EITHER side of the tort issue -- IE, there were no major corporations to get millions of dollars in settlements from, because the place you bought your coffee was just a neighborhood mom and pop -and- there was no "legal corporate person" to hide behind if a manufacturer or businessman decided to put out shoddy goods or steal from his employees or customers?
A positive outcome - there would be fewer lawyers.

(in reply to CallaFirestormBW)
Profile   Post #: 3
RE: The Grim Reaper and the Corporate Behemoth - 8/12/2009 7:58:03 AM   
servantforuse


Posts: 6363
Joined: 3/8/2006
Status: offline 		I'm not sure on the exact percent, but the number of people who are actually employed by large corporations in the US is somewhere between 15 and 20%. The rest work for small companies or for themselves. I'm tired of hearing about 'corporate greed'...

(in reply to Mercnbeth)
Profile   Post #: 4
RE: The Grim Reaper and the Corporate Behemoth - 8/12/2009 10:16:23 AM   
UncleNasty


Posts: 1108
Joined: 3/20/2004
Status: offline 		It would tear a hole in the known universe and life as we know it would end.

Uncle Nasty

(in reply to servantforuse)
Profile   Post #: 5
RE: The Grim Reaper and the Corporate Behemoth - 8/12/2009 4:14:07 PM   
tazzygirl


Posts: 37833
Joined: 10/12/2007
Status: offline 		lol... your wecome Calla!

hopefully you have a more fruitful discussion than i did.

_____________________________

Telling me to take Midol wont help your butthurt.
RIP, my demon-child 5-16-11
Duchess of Dissent 1
Dont judge me because I sin differently than you.
If you want it sugar coated, dont ask me what i think! It would violate TOS.

(in reply to CallaFirestormBW)
Profile   Post #: 6
RE: The Grim Reaper and the Corporate Behemoth - 8/14/2009 10:07:24 PM   
Vendaval


Posts: 10297
Joined: 1/15/2005
Status: offline 		Most Western societies would implode, there would be massive social and political unrest and guerrilla warfare for starters. And full scale warfare for severely limited resources; petroleum, water, crops, medical supplies, etc.

_____________________________

"Beware, the woods at night, beware the lunar light.
So in this gray haze we'll be meating again, and on that
great day, I will tease you all the same."
"WOLF MOON", OCTOBER RUST, TYPE O NEGATIVE


http://KinkMeet.co.uk

(in reply to CallaFirestormBW)
Profile   Post #: 7
RE: The Grim Reaper and the Corporate Behemoth - 8/14/2009 10:22:57 PM   
DarkSteven


Posts: 28072
Joined: 5/2/2008
Status: offline 		Alfred Sloan is frequently credited as the father of the modern corporation.  He had to integrate several autonomous companies into General Motors.

The corporation is a fascinating beast.  To an extent, it acts like an individual and can sue or be sued.  It actually allows the common people to own it through the sale of stock.  The idea of the people controlling the means of production is revolutionary, when compared to nations where the governments own them.

In the ideal world, corporations provide goods or services to consumers, jobs to its employees, and returns to its stockholders.

The fact that corporate greed has perverted this, and is now squeezing its workers and ignoring its customers while destroying the wealth of its shareholders, has shown that the model is not guaranteed.  IMO, the government now has an obligation to let the sucky corporations fail.  No bailouts.  No stimulus.  If you can't create value for your customer, you do not deserve to live.

After the lousy companies die, they will be replaced by healthy ones.


_____________________________

"You women....

The small-breasted ones want larger breasts. The large-breasted ones want smaller ones. The straight-haired ones curl their hair, and the curly-haired ones straighten theirs...

Quit fretting. We men love you."

(in reply to Vendaval)
Profile   Post #: 8
Page:   [1]
All Forums >> [Community Discussions] >> Dungeon of Political and Religious Discussion >> The Grim Reaper and the Corporate Behemoth Page: [1]
Jump to:





New Messages No New Messages
Hot Topic w/ New Messages Hot Topic w/o New Messages
Locked w/ New Messages Locked w/o New Messages
 Post New Thread
 Reply to Message
 Post New Poll
 Submit Vote
 Delete My Own Post
 Delete My Own Thread
 Rate Posts




Collarchat.com © 2025
Terms of Service Privacy Policy Spam Policy

0.063