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CatalinaControl -> RE: Oral Sex, the female, and the femdom (6/12/2006 3:29:54 PM)

For me, oral is limited to my sub/hubby and collared live-in femsub.  They are the only subs who earn that right and I do consider it a right.  I believe oral sex, even more so than intercourse, is a deeply emotional and mental sharing and not something I wish to force.  Since my hubby likes "forced oral" I do indulge him this, on occassion, but it rarely a part of our "normal" playtime.  Long-duration oral sex is not for me....things get a lil tender down there after a while. 
 
As far as chastity devices, they are alright and I do enjoy "locking" someone up, but the devices are far too cumbersome for r/t out of the house activities, and in such cases as the CB3000, there is the issue of cleanliness.  I much prefer mental chastity, controlling when, where and how many orgasms a male (or for that matter, the female) will earn.  On the other hand (pun intended) I derive great pleasure in watching any gender masterbate and be denied until he/she is begging to be released.   
 
Catalina




FloridaISIS -> RE: Oral Sex, the female, and the femdom (6/12/2006 5:21:19 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: cloudboy
Question #1: In male projection fantasy fiction, the femdom is often portrayed as denying the malesub orgasms, making him wear a chastity device, and never copulating with him. To rub things in even more, the malesub is expected to "satisfy" the Mistress orally, bringing her to multiple orgasms while he's locked up.
Next, the malesub is often put "in service" for up to one to two hours giving oral. A pussy collar may be involved, a special bondage chair, or some such other device.
This is the storyline.
My question is, does this in anyway correspond to reality?

Yes, and many subs enjoy this form of tease and denial. The sub's I've had crave this. They enjoy the frustration it brings, and they find their focus is totally on Me instead of on their cock.  I enforce chastisty 24/7 when the sub is not in my presence. I have no problem letting him out daily as long as he's earned it.  Of course this comes with conditions.

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Original: cloudboy
In my experience, which is NOT vast, the women I’ve been with prefer the men to initiate oral. They don’t enjoy forcing men to do it, instead, they prefer "the showering of affection."

Can't say this for all in the lifestyle, but I am guessing this is more of a vanilla problem.  Many vanilla women would rather go about their  "vanilla"  lives than be mortified by asking for what they really want. As a Dominant I enjoy face sitting, and have never had one of my sub's complain yet about being "forced" to perfect his oral skills. A sub who is eager and wants to please me more than what I ask of him would be most welcomed, as long as he's been on his best behavior in all other areas.

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Original: cloudboy 
Next, the women I’ve been with do not like extended oral. At a certain point they have had enough and want me to stop.
What are your thoughts?

There does come a time where it gets too sensitive, just as the glans gets after a male orgasms.  I don't know too many men who can withstand even the lightest caress after orgasm. 
All women are different.  Some can go hours on end with no problems. However, if very intense and focused attention is placed on the area the intense stimulation can totally blow a woman's circuits to where it's just way too intense to withstand.   As long as your partner seems otherwise content and happy, than chalk it up your exquistite lingustic skills.  Watch her face, if she looks bored than it's time to ask her exactly  how she wants it's done. Again this is probably more of the case with vanilla women. Most Dommes are quite vocal about how they want it done.
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Original: cloudboy

Question #2: To include all women here, what are your oral preferences in terms of initiation and duration?

Personally, either one can initiate it,  I love an eager male and I'm comfortable enough to ask for exactly what I want at any time.   As far as duration, as long as I hold out and can have breaks for when it gets too intense,  I can go probably 2-4 hours or more. I am highly orgasmic to the point where I almost pass out, so 8 hrs of near continual orgasm would totally exhaust me (which isn't necessarily a bad thing.)
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Original: cloudboy
Question #3: If in the whole sexual continuum you were to rank receiving oral on a scale from one (1) to ten (10) where would you rank it? ( 1 being "hate it," 5 being "its ok, I can take or leave it," and 10 being "it’s the absolute ultimate to me.")

I'd say 8-9, but it's not all about the sex.
I'm just as content holding the sub in my arms all night long, or having him brush my hair and bathe me.  A nice dinner, a poem, or him even telling me what it means to serve me. The look of sheer adoration in his eyes, and knowing that he chose me to serve over all others..those are the absolute ultimate joys my sub can ever bring to me.
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maledave7 -> RE: Oral Sex, the female, and the femdom (5/18/2007 7:11:49 AM)

I do agree with “the showering of affection”. I would offer myself to the woman. My desire is to give you oral pleasure anytime you want it. I would tell her that I love the way you smell and taste.
I feel that cunnilingus is something that a male submissive should do very well.




thetammyjo -> RE: Oral Sex, the female, and the femdom (5/18/2007 7:40:23 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: BeeQueen

"Quote: original thetammyjo
As you say below the idea of forcing someone to have sex with me is a turn-off really. I mean, if I have to force them how ugly or smelly must I be? Its it more empowering to just be able to touch someone or whisper in their ear and have them respond with passion and desire?"

err..uhm.....i m not sure if i read ur post right.....but
*forced* is relativly.....its about him feeling like hes been forced (by pulling his head..ordering blah blah).....not about ugly or smelly that u are....ehem....

i dont know u or ur idea of female dominance...but for me the thrill of beeing in control is to control his sexual beehavior
humiliate *him* by denying him to touch me...controlling his sexual pleasure for highering my sexual pleasure.

and for sure i dont feel ugly or smelly when i ORDER my sub to lick me.....fingerfuck me....or sit on his face


Sorry it has taken me so long to respond to this.

I take words like punishment and force seriously -- I don't play with them and I know that makes me rare in the scene where we often use terms simply because they turn us on.

As you say at the end, BeeQueen, you order him, you aren't forcing him then, merely commanding and he is obeying.

Frankly isn't that part of what being a slave is about? Obeying.




Cuckme4Life -> RE: Oral Sex, the female, and the femdom (5/18/2007 7:51:30 AM)

Posts like these make me miss my multi-orgasminc and female cum-spraying ex girlfriend (alas vanilla)... Had  a lil playfulness  going our way concerning some early morning wake up to "forced" facesitting and Her flooding my mouth, face and senses.   Sigh!!!!  i tried drinking it all but couldnt keep up with the flooding,,, 




stockingluvr54 -> RE: Oral Sex, the female, and the femdom (5/18/2007 9:45:21 AM)

Somone mentioned a "pussy collar"...can someone enlighten me? (I hope it's what I think it may be)

As far as oral goes...I truely enjoy this and all the forms mentioned sound exciting..."forced", tease-denial, initiated by me or not, queening, the chair thing, etc. If it floats her boat it'll float mine also.....




AAkasha -> RE: Oral Sex, the female, and the femdom (5/18/2007 9:48:23 AM)

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ORIGINAL: stockingluvr54

Somone mentioned a "pussy collar"...can someone enlighten me? (I hope it's what I think it may be)

As far as oral goes...I truely enjoy this and all the forms mentioned sound exciting..."forced", tease-denial, initiated by me or not, queening, the chair thing, etc. If it floats her boat it'll float mine also.....



Here are the details:

Many of you have written to me asking about this "pussy collar" I keep mentioning in my stories.
Well, lucky you..I have decided to give you quite a graphic description of it, how it came to be, and its wonderful uses.
The sound of it alone is enough to get you hard I am sure. I believe the idea came to me when I realized that there were better positions for forced pussy worship than sitting on my sub's face... Not that there is anything wrong with planting my ass on his open mouth, usually with him tied down, spread eagled, helpless. I can do this on my bed and leave myself open for a number of side activities -- like reading a magazine, watching television, or talking on the phone.

The joy in facesitting is two-fold. It is not only about the sensations, it is about the power. I guess it has a bit to do with breath control, too. Or maybe it is the squirming.. Ah, yes, how he squirms so helplessly, his tongue raw and tired. But there is still much to be done. I might give him a new nickname. My Little Cunt Fiend. If he is not doing an adequate job, making me so wet that my juices literally coat his face, I may be apt to pick up a riding crop or pair of nipple clamps and have at it. There is nothing like torturing a man who is doing his best to give you an orgasm. Evil and ironic, isn't it?

Because the hotter I get, the more his tongue flickers in just the right way, the more I am forced to literally grind my pussy down into his face..the more I want to hear muffled gasps of pain. And desperation. Sometimes, as I cum, I tighten the last clamp just right, or start a mad rampage on his balls with my riding crop. After all, a woman in the height of passion sometimes is unaware of her strength. But, back to the pussy collar. It occurred to me that I wanted a new forced pussy-worship position. I wanted to be able to lie back at my leisure, reclined fully, comfortable, so I could remain for long periods of time. That is when the pussy collar came into being. In my big toychest of bondage gear I had a set of thigh cuffs used often with a spreader. My slave, of course, was kneeling patiently at the bedside wearing nothing but his slave collar -- a simple leather collar with several D-rings. Like many hungry femdoms, when I have a goal in mind there is no stopping me. Soon I had my thigh cuffs and a few metal clasps in hand.

You should have seen the look on my poor slave's face when he saw me putting the thigh cuffs on *myself*! I believe he thought I may be turning sub on him. He looked bewildered. He swallowed hard. It wasn't until I start locking clasps to his collar that I saw the realization in his eyes. And the fear. ** It begs the question -- what fear can there be of being trapped between your Mistress' legs? Well, maybe it is the fear of exhaustion, or being long forgotten down there as I relax on my bed, enjoying the sensations with nothing to stop me now. When I locked the other ends of the clasps to the D-rings on my thigh cuffs, he knew what was coming. And who was going to be cumming - a lot. Sliding to the edge of the bed, taking his precious neck with me, I eased back onto the bed, my head propped up by a few pillows so I could enjoy the show. With his collar locked on both sides to the insides of each of my thighs, I had complete control of the position of his head. He could not back up, could not get away. He could go nowhere. He was effectively trapped between my thighs. And when I untensed my legs, let them close naturally a little, his head had more freedom. Should I open my legs more, his head would be trapped again. I found that certain movements would direct his head right where I wanted it.

And best of all, I found that if I kept my legs in that position, he could not back up at all. He was, effectively, trapped. Trapped with his face buried in my pussy. Glorious.




stockingluvr54 -> RE: Oral Sex, the female, and the femdom (5/18/2007 10:22:16 AM)

OMG....!!!!!!  Now that's just plain flat out fuckin hot!!!!! When you explained how the device works by the position of your legs was the clincher for me. I have a new fantasy! Thanks for the excellant description and kudos to you for your obvious creativity!!!!




mp072004 -> RE: Oral Sex, the female, and the femdom (5/18/2007 3:53:53 PM)

I don't like to receive cunnilingus. I've had good cunnilingus, and I've had bad cunnilingus, and I've concluded that the physical sensations that lips and tongues lend themselves to just aren't nearly as much to my taste as other forms of stimulation. I don't hate it--I'm mostly indifferent to and occasionally bored by it, honestly. I can recognize adept cunnilingus (I should be able to--I fuck women!) but even the best cunnilingus isn't as much fun to receive as other things are. Most women, in my experience, are more pleased by some form of cunnilingus than I am.




SDFemDom4cuck -> RE: Oral Sex, the female, and the femdom (5/18/2007 3:58:10 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: cloudboy

Question #1: In male projection fantasy fiction, the femdom is often portrayed as denying the malesub orgasms, making him wear a chastity device, and never copulating with him. To rub things in even more, the malesub is expected to "satisfy" the Mistress orally, bringing her to multiple orgasms while he's locked up.

Next, the malesub is often put "in service" for up to one to two hours giving oral. A pussy collar may be involved, a special bondage chair, or some such other device.

This is the storyline.

My question is, does this in anyway correspond to reality?

In my experience, which is NOT vast, the women I’ve been with prefer the men to initiate oral. They don’t enjoy forcing men to do it, instead, they prefer “the showering of affection.”

Next, the women I’ve been with do not like extended oral. At a certain point they have had enough and want me to stop.

What are your thoughts?

Question #2: To include all women here, what are your oral preferences in terms of initiation and duration?

Question #3: If in the whole sexual continuum you were to rank receiving oral on a scale from one (1) to ten (10) where would you rank it? ( 1 being “hate it,” 5 being “its ok, I can take or leave it,” and 10 being “it’s the absolute ultimate to me.”)



I knew this thread seemed familiar and then I relaized it was over a year old. LOL. I'm going to answer it anyway since it's been reintroduced.

Question #1. Yes, it certainly does correspond with MY reality.

Question #2: Initiation or force(demand) doesn't matter to me either way. Although I will say being woken up first thing in the morning by a warm soft licking makes me purr much more readily than being awakened by the shrill alarm. Ahhh. However, if I'm not in the mood then any unwanted attention will definitely be dealt with post haste.

Question #3: I would go with a 15 on this. But that's just me.




subfever -> RE: Oral Sex, the female, and the femdom (5/18/2007 10:41:51 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: AAkasha

Yes, this is absolutely realistic. The trick to keeping a guy locked in a pussy collar and forcing him to service me for two hours or more is changing of positions, interrupted teasing and denial, moments to pause and slap him around to get me even more turned on. It's not just two hours-sitting-on-his-face. Unless I am into the smothering aspect of it, and then it's more about time periods and less about him actually using his tongue.

The trick is also to not cum too quickly or too often, but hold off cumming until the end. The pussy collar "ritual" and the various stages of facesitting/smothering/thigh torment are all part of a game that builds intensity and passion.

Akasha


Damn... that's freaking hawt!




TexasMaam -> RE: Oral Sex, the female, and the femdom (5/18/2007 10:50:08 PM)

I've often been amused by the stereotypical portrayal of a wimpy, thin, emasculated male sub, collared, leashed, blindfolded, wearing a chastity device, looking at the camera with this famished look as he sticks out his tongue to head for the split tailed prize....

......  But then, we all know the porno kings are pandering to the masses.

Almost every sub I have ever known has seemed a bit confused by My penchant for putting off oral service when they first seem to be so very eager to serve Me in that way.

I can almost see the wheels turning: Gee, I thought subs were supposed to do oral; I love oral; I want to please her, I'm here to do oral, I can't imagine why she won't let me????  The expressions on their face is hilarious - the initial confusion, and then the reluctance to approach Me about it again like a whipped puppy: priceless!

The truth is, there are damned few men who have a clue how to muffdive, and even fewer who can be taught how to meet My preferences for oral service.

Most men, submissive or not, seem to tackle wet labia like an off balance Cessna headed down a runway.

Or, they affect some weird role reversal of some passage I can still remember reading in the Happy Hooker back in the 70's!  You know: the butterfly flick, the lollipop lick, absolutely silly attempts at technique that border on the ridiculous.

I happen to LOVE to put a sub male in a full body harness, including having his legs webbed tight, hands bound at his sides where he cannot use them, then lay him on his side on the bed in a foetal position, blindfolded.  When I am in the mood for oral, I'll position myself on my side almost perpindicular to him, adjusting his head to rest between my legs, cheek upon my thigh with his face in my crotch. Then he'd better follow instructions!

He doesn't get to that point in My service, however, until he develops enough sensitivity with his tongue to be able to complete two assignments:

1. He must learn to section a peeled grapefruit, in it's entirety, using only his tongue.  Not only does he have to supreme the grapefruit into clean, peeled sections - using his tongue -he has to be able to separate each individual pulp from at least 4 whole sections - with his tongue - before tiring.

Once he's mastered that trick he can move on to phase two:

2. He must learn to hollow out a Reeses' peanut butter cup using only his tongue, hands tied behind his back, without breaking the sides or the bottom of the chocolate cup, and he must lick it clean of all peanut butter.  Easy, you say?  Hardly!  It will take a slow, methodical series of licks with a soft, relaxed tongue, to melt the top layer of chocolate and sucessfully hollow out the cup without the entire thing ending up a melted blob of goo on his desk.  The last sub I assigned that task took 3 dozen cups to get the hang of it: he got sick and tired of Reeses' peanut butter cups!  But by golly, he learned to lick cunt and lick it right!

Only when a sub has learned to follow my directives on where to place his tongue, how to use his tongue, how to differentiate between firm licks, lengthy thrusts and soft, supple laps, is he allowed ANYWHERE NEAR My "fountain of joy".

And for Goodness' sake, don't try that old worn out 'butterfly flick' on My clit unless I tell you to.

As for how I would rank oral?  That's easy.  When I WANT ORAL, it ranks at the top of My list.  Just not all of the time.

; )

TexasMaam






AcademyForSlaves -> RE: Oral Sex, the female, and the femdom (5/19/2007 10:39:18 PM)

I love oral. Sometimes I like to postpone cumming so I know the slave is really suffering and working hard at it. I've even smothered a slave during it and that makes me excited and cum faster.

Should a slave be chastised? Oh absolutely!! At the Academy we like to chastise slaves and make them beg for orgasms and they have to do it by our strict commands!!




YesMistressIrish -> RE: Oral Sex, the female, and the femdom (5/20/2007 2:22:45 AM)

Ok AAkasha, roflmao!

Super hot toy. Super hot writing. Kudos2U.

*licking my lips as I write it down on the top of my 'must have in May Toys list'.

Edited to say...The Pussy Collar.... of course!




stockingluvr54 -> RE: Oral Sex, the female, and the femdom (5/20/2007 8:14:25 AM)

lol.... gotta agree! The day I read that wonderful description I was a bowl of jelly the rest of the day and half the night! Had a hell of a time dealing with customers on the phone....all I could think of was the "PC"....




subfever -> RE: Oral Sex, the female, and the femdom (5/20/2007 8:15:47 AM)

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ORIGINAL: YesMistressIrish

Super hot toy. Super hot writing. Kudos2U...



AAkasha writing is among the best, probably at least partially because she understands the malesub psyche better than most. I began reading her stories back in the mid-late 90's. Some of them gave me insomnia... [:)]

Hmm... maybe her post give you insomnia. I see you went on posting into the wee hours of the morning... [;)] 




nonu -> RE: Oral Sex, the female, and the femdom (5/20/2007 12:47:59 PM)

As far as the 3 questions are concerned, i guess they have been answered by A/all, in T/their own ways. As correctly pointed out by some, the preferences vary from one Woman to another, and the discussion could therefore go on forever.

However, what struck my submissive mind the most, were the comments and descriptions that were used in answering these questions. What with the truly graphic and mouth-watering description of the use of a Pussy Collar from Ms. Akasha, this thread has by far had some of the most enticing experiences and thoughts described by these Goddesses on Earth.

I was compelled to pinch myself, to be convinced that what i was reading, indeed came from the experiences of real Women on this very same planet! To compare that to the situation in my own country makes it all the more lamentable and depressing. Womandom (a more respectable term for Femdom) is still in its initial stages in India, in spite of there being a surplus of males in the country, who live to be dominated and controlled by the Women in their lives.

That calls for a small tribute to Ms Akasha:

Maybe one day we will too,
Be proud of having amongst us,
A Glorious and exquisite Goddess like You,
Who'll make the best lickers out of us.




useme58 -> RE: Oral Sex, the female, and the femdom (5/20/2007 7:53:10 PM)

Cloudboy

In my very limited experience it seems that females enjoy both ends of the spectrum. I have had one Domme who had me down there for sometimes up to an hour and a half (i was talking funny for a while after that), and I have had a Domme who didnt want me down there at all because she didnt like it. It seems like that idea is pretty common among the board. My advice is to keep doing those tongue exercises because if you find a Domme who wants it for a while you really have to be in shape!




slaveboy04276 -> RE: Oral Sex, the female, and the femdom (5/21/2007 3:57:40 AM)

Ms. Akasha, I LOVE the way you think!!!




lewdy -> RE: Oral Sex, the female, and the femdom (5/21/2007 5:05:47 AM)


mistress sassy says
quote:

For the submissives that pay for services...they get no relief(orgasm). For the submissives I "play" with making them orgasm on command is way more challenging and fun. No male submissives are allowed to lick My Private Area for one they are not worthy enough of being able to enjoy such a treat and for another slave bishop gets that Honor for being a good girl(and she happens to be the best at it)...a good slave needs a good reward.



'Such class' Id like a day in your boots.

To wildsue6- go girl!

And Im supposed to go to sleep now YoHoHo




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