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RE: Voter Disenfranchisement OK with Obama - 8/14/2009 7:51:58 AM   
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There was video, widely publicized, and police witnesses, as the local police were called - and again, the career prosecutors were in the final stages of prosecution when high level Obama political appointees stepped in and forced the career prosecutors to drop the charges.

The past preacher link is strong evidence that Obama has ulterior motives for instructing his justice department to drop the voter intimidation charges.

I seem to have a different recollection of events. When this previously came up I do remember seeing a few videos regarding this matter but in the videos the people were being asked to stop recording and a scuffle ensued between the camera people (acting to expose the injustice of people standing around a polling station) and the thugs at the polling station. Yes I'm sure the police got involved and statements were made in terms of how the thugs intimidated the camera investigators but this is hardly sufficient evidence for a prosecution regarding voter intimidation.

I always wondered why the camera investigators didn’t do their investigating from a far and show these people standing around talking aggressively to people going in and out of the polling station or perhaps pretend to be a voter with hidden camera and walk past them into the polling station to see what they did but alas I didn’t see either of these approaches in their investigative journalism...

Unless you saw another video that I could perhaps look at?


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RE: Voter Disenfranchisement OK with Obama - 8/14/2009 8:06:22 AM   
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This case was singled out by a high level Obama operative.

This came straight from the top. The run of the mill, every day prosecutors were overruled by the number three guy in the Justice Department, who (again) was appointed directly by Obama.

It doesn't make logical sense to stop a prosecution for political reasons unless you assume that people in the Obama administration are incapable of seeing what stopping such a prosecution could look like politically (NOW). By the fact itself thus proved.

As I said earlier: if you had an involvement you would see them prosecuted to demonstrate you had no involvement. I doubt anyone in the Obama administration is thinking "We must stop those heroes being prosecuted because they helped get us elected." If there was this grand conspiracy it wouldn’t demonstrate itself to be so overt.


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RE: Voter Disenfranchisement OK with Obama - 8/14/2009 8:20:36 AM   
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Is that a trick question of some sort Domken, of course the courts did not prosecute anyone. The courts don't prosecute. Either the state or the agrgieved parties brings a case. And it has been a while, but as I remember it, while there were lots of allegations in the Media, when it came time to swear under penlty of Perjury, that they had been disenfranchised, no one actually would.

Actually the state of Florida settled that lawsuit but it couldn't over turn the results of the electoral college vote.
http://web.archive.org/web/20060108155841/http://www.choicepoint.net/85256B350053E646/0/16440966B650DEA685256BEB00461242?Open
http://www.aclufl.org/legislature_courts/legal_department/briefs_complaints/naacp_v__harris.cfm
http://www.naacpldf.org/content.aspx?article=80

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RE: Voter Disenfranchisement OK with Obama - 8/14/2009 8:26:18 AM   
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Why is it that as all these things are revealed you on the left start screaming about Bush or Fox News.

Why not stick to the subject at hand?

The subject here is the president of the United States coddling racists who stood outside a voting place with billy clubs.

Not Bbbbbush!

Not Fox News.

Voter intimidation at a polling place.



Pretty obvious isn't it?
They have a game plan, to distort, to distract, to shut down any exposure of the destruction of freedom and the eradication of the rightful heirs of America. This is right out of the Commisars playbook.

The Times report said that the dismissal went at least as high as  Associate Attorney General Thomas J. Perrelli, the number three official at the Justice Department.

That the Voter Intimidation story is NOT major news on all the network news shows is demonstrative of the fact that the "News" is a propaganda arm of the Commissars.

The top guy at the White House is Rahm Israel Emanuel:

"The night after Clinton was elected, Emanuel was so angry at the president's enemies that he stood up at a celebratory dinner with colleagues from the campaign, grabbed a steak knife and began rattling off a list of betrayers, shouting "Dead! . . . Dead! . . . Dead!" and plunging the knife into the table after every name. "When he was done, the table looked like a lunar landscape," one campaign veteran recalls. "It was like something out of The Godfather. But that's Rahm for you." 
- "The Enforcer," Rolling Stone, Oct. 20, 2005

Video: Eric Holder Admits–No Equal Protection For Whites, Christians
http://blip.tv/play/AYGQ1R2Pgjo

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RE: Voter Disenfranchisement OK with Obama - 8/14/2009 8:31:17 AM   
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This case was singled out by a high level Obama operative.

This came straight from the top. The run of the mill, every day prosecutors were overruled by the number three guy in the Justice Department, who (again) was appointed directly by Obama.

Perrelli raised $500,000 for Obama.

We are merely combatants, armed only with a "sword of truth," in that  war against the dark, the evil that, apparently, thinks they have won. They are working to amass total power, THEN you will see the Cheka types in action.

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RE: Voter Disenfranchisement OK with Obama - 8/14/2009 9:07:36 AM   
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They have a game plan, to distort, to distract, to shut down any exposure of the destruction of freedom and the eradication of the rightful heirs of America.

Who are the rightful heirs?

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RE: Voter Disenfranchisement OK with Obama - 8/14/2009 9:25:02 AM   
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Pretty obvious isn't it?
They have a game plan, to distort, to distract, to shut down any exposure of the destruction of freedom and the eradication of the rightful heirs of America.


I think there is something pretty obvious here, but that's not it.

I'm just bursting with curiosity.

Who are "the rightful heirs of America"?


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RE: Voter Disenfranchisement OK with Obama - 8/14/2009 11:04:56 AM   
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Status: offline 		Dom ken, which is another way of saying despite the allegations, no one was found guilty of anything. But the NAACP got paid, so the issue ended.

So settlements = guilt. Is that also part of the glourious new future?



I would be curious as to who the rightfull heirs of America are also.

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RE: Voter Disenfranchisement OK with Obama - 8/14/2009 11:07:32 AM   
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So settlements = guilt. Is that also part of the glourious new future?


Give me 50 bucks and I'll tell you.  What other reason would the state have for settling if there was no near certainly provable culpability? 

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RE: Voter Disenfranchisement OK with Obama - 8/14/2009 11:20:29 AM   
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Status: offline 		Right, I got it. The concept of innocent unless proven guilty in a court of law, doesn't apply anymore. It was a rather quaint concept anyway. Its the Radical! (with a capital R and an exclamation point) new reality.

You can of course flip the question and ask why the NAACP et al, settled and allowed an illegal election to stand? If it is so clear cut that guilt was proven. They just greedy hustlers who just wanted 75k?

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RE: Voter Disenfranchisement OK with Obama - 8/14/2009 12:23:39 PM   
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Status: offline 		I would think the millions spent on the defense of the stealing of floridas vote having exhausted the coffers the neo-cons had to throw a bone at the naacp because they couldn't afford the nuisance suit.

I also suspect the naacp after seeing the conservative court legislating from the bench and legitimizing it, said; we've taken this one as far as we can.............

Yeah, the innocent until proven guilty ideal you set forth as being somehow relevant...............where do you stand on Hitler?  Was he given a trial by the jury of his peers and found wanting officially, I mean. 

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RE: Voter Disenfranchisement OK with Obama - 8/14/2009 2:00:21 PM   
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Status: offline 		The settlement wasn't confidential. That alone indicates that the attornies for the state felt they were at a huge disadvantage.

Anyway the point of posting the info was to prove that people did come forward and swear to what happened under threat of perjury. The state of Florida did illegally purge enough voters to change the outcome of the 2000 election.

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RE: Voter Disenfranchisement OK with Obama - 8/14/2009 3:39:21 PM   
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Status: offline 		I don't know about the rest of you...but I'm doing an immediate Internet family history search......who knows,I just might be one of those"rightful heirs of America".
What the hell it's worth looking into.....

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RE: Voter Disenfranchisement OK with Obama - 8/14/2009 4:39:14 PM   
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Status: offline 		I am kind of missing the point on Hitler question, Mnot. He wasn't an American citizen, nor am I aware that he was charged under any American Laws. We declared War on his nation. His henchmen were not tried under American law.

I didn't set the idea forth as relevant that one is considered innocent untill convicted in a court of law. The Constitution did. Several posters consider it irrelevant. Just pointing it out. Radical!!

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RE: Voter Disenfranchisement OK with Obama - 8/14/2009 5:14:12 PM   
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an argument could be made that it wasnt Obama's team who put them out there, but McCain's. im not implying they did. but to assume they are "Obama's boys" based upon their color is just as racist.


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Oh, I get it now...

You think that the Black Panthers might have gotten their marching orders from John McCain...



I can't imagine how I missed reading that into the first post you meant to say it in, except for the fact that it defies all logic!!!



get some glasses. i never said McCain did... in fact i said i wasnt implying that at all. you missed it because it was never said.

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RE: Voter Disenfranchisement OK with Obama - 8/15/2009 12:30:45 AM   
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Status: offline 		Domken, I was wrong that no one came forward, point taken.

However my point still stands, nothing illegal was found. For you to claim so is just empty rhetoric. IF the courts are not legitimate, say it, or accept the rulings. The case was settled, neither side was guilty. The same thing Dems always say with Clinton and Paula Jones. The NAACP got CASH, and a series of reforms were implemented in Florida. No one was found to have committed illegal acts.

The settlement being open or closed means nothing in this context. It was a public case. It had to be open.

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RE: Voter Disenfranchisement OK with Obama - 8/15/2009 12:39:57 AM   
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The top guy at the White House is Rahm Israel Emanuel


Niggers and kikes, eh? It's always the niggers and kikes, what with their drinking the blood of babies and the tricking us into miscegenating to sully our pure strong Aryan blood... I hear they're not even actually humans, they're really shape-changing alien reptiles from an alternate dimension. I know 'cause I red it in the Bible - the real, King James Bible, spoken in Jesus's own English words and not some translation conspiracy. Don't let them talk to you about Greek this or Hebrew that, it's all a lie: the Bible was written in God's own English, like God intended it.

... how was that?

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RE: Voter Disenfranchisement OK with Obama - 8/15/2009 6:23:05 AM   
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They have a game plan, to distort, to distract, to shut down any exposure of the destruction of freedom and the eradication of the rightful heirs of America.ORIGINAL: rfd1



Before we continue this conversation, can we get a definition of who you consider to be the "rightful heirs of America?"

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RE: Voter Disenfranchisement OK with Obama - 8/15/2009 7:20:30 AM   
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Domken, I was wrong that no one came forward, point taken.

However my point still stands, nothing illegal was found. For you to claim so is just empty rhetoric. IF the courts are not legitimate, say it, or accept the rulings. The case was settled, neither side was guilty. The same thing Dems always say with Clinton and Paula Jones. The NAACP got CASH, and a series of reforms were implemented in Florida. No one was found to have committed illegal acts.

The settlement being open or closed means nothing in this context. It was a public case. It had to be open.

No such thing as a public case. Settlements are usually confidential since it gives the the defendant some cover. This settlement is not because the NAACP's lawyers negotiated it to not be which means the attornies for Florida and ChoicePoint knew they would lose, and lose badly, in court.

It is illegal to purge legal voters from the voting rolls to claim otherwise is absurd.

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RE: Voter Disenfranchisement OK with Obama - 8/15/2009 8:59:30 AM   
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Perhaps the lack of outrage when a US governor illegally disenfranchised thousands of US citizens to elect his brother POTUS compared to the claimed outrage over a single precinct in Philadelphia is teh twist kittin refers to?


Good thing it never happened.

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