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truesub4u -> Collaring/Weddings (2/22/2006 9:56:18 PM)

Most of us out here... have active.... and non active friends and familes.

When people decide to become one... either it being a collaring.. or wedding... and both types of friends and families are invited.... how does one tend to deal with having both?

How does one have the dress attire?..... the ceromonies themselves...rings vs collars...

This isn't a debate over if or would you.. this is a question of how it's done.

Any ideas... or hearing how others pulled this off will be great... thank you... (clocks ticking.. July is getting closer... lol)




BitaTruble -> RE: Collaring/Weddings (2/22/2006 10:01:33 PM)

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Any ideas... or hearing how others pulled this off will be great... thank you... (clocks ticking.. July is getting closer... lol)


Learn from my mistakes.. make nudity optional and not mandatory. Seeing your mother-in-law in the buff makes the whole idea of catering obsolete. ;)

Celeste




truesub4u -> RE: Collaring/Weddings (2/22/2006 10:11:01 PM)

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ORIGINAL: BitaTruble

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Any ideas... or hearing how others pulled this off will be great... thank you... (clocks ticking.. July is getting closer... lol)


Learn from my mistakes.. make nudity optional and not mandatory. Seeing your mother-in-law in the buff makes the whole idea of catering obsolete. ;)

Celeste



LMAO thanks Bita... I'll pass that along... (shivers.......... things that make you go...... blahhhhhhhhh)




Petruchio -> RE: Collaring/Weddings (2/22/2006 10:48:24 PM)

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Learn from my mistakes.. make nudity optional and not mandatory. Seeing your mother-in-law in the buff makes the whole idea of catering obsolete.


(laughing) Very good.

Did you ever see the Star Trek when the ship's counselor's mother got married… in the nude?

(Oops, I just gave away that I'm a geek.)

trusub, to me, collaring is far more personal and private and not for others.





truesub4u -> RE: Collaring/Weddings (2/22/2006 10:52:30 PM)

Thank you Petruchio....

I'm not sure how this is going to happen.. if both can or will done at exact same time. It's not been decided... because of knowing how to mix the two.. or if they should be mixed.

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ORIGINAL: Petruchio


Did you ever see the Star Trek when the ship's counselor's mother got married… in the nude?

(Oops, I just gave away that I'm a geek.)

trusub, to me, collaring is far more personal and private and not for others.





you're talking of when troy's mother got married right?

Her species always gets married in the buff... in Nemisis... they talked of having to do same for Troy and Riker's wedding on her home planet... LOL


Ok enough of being trekkies.. lmao




slavejali -> RE: Collaring/Weddings (2/22/2006 10:58:48 PM)

Well how i see it is, weddings are for a recognition of marriage by a vanilla world, so i would suit the ceremony accordingly. Doesnt mean it has to be in a church, you could have it in some beautiful natural surroundings (Master and i got married in a cave in front of a waterfall).
You could have a prvate collaring ceremony for it and then wear a choker around your neck during the vanilla marriage ceremony, something only you and your Master and those in the know would recognise.

When i said my vows, i couldnt help but grin when i got to the "Love, honor and OBEY" part *grin...

It really depends on you, whatever you do make it special and something to remember when your old and gray when your using canes to walk with instead of play...(thats from a poem i wrote)




truesub4u -> RE: Collaring/Weddings (2/22/2006 11:02:51 PM)

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ORIGINAL: slavejali



When i said my vows, i couldnt help but grin when i got to the "Love, honor and OBEY" part *grin...

It really depends on you, whatever you do make it special and something to remember when your old and gray when your using canes to walk with instead of play...(thats from a poem i wrote)


Grinning from ear to ear I would be myself.

Thank you slavejali..... I'm taking notes on this .... so this is not wasted replies... thank you very much.

Oh and right now.. the thoughts are either on the beach.. or in the mountains.. depending on the heat index in June.. to determine July's heat index.. LOL... both out doors




BitaTruble -> RE: Collaring/Weddings (2/22/2006 11:20:16 PM)

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Ok enough of being trekkies.. lmao


::glances over at the complete Star Trek: TNG series on DVD and every Next Gen book currently in print:: No such thing as 'enough'. hehehe

Celeste




IronBear -> RE: Collaring/Weddings (2/23/2006 12:48:31 AM)




  • Weddings are for family and friends.
  • Handfasting may be for family and friends.
  • Collerings are for a very select few. In House Iron Bear, all members of the House would be there as well as the person who was the chaperone or sponsor or whet ever you call it.. The person who was running shotgun during the early days of the pre-coller relationship...


The above is my personal take and concepts which may or may not sit well with others....




Rayne58 -> RE: Collaring/Weddings (2/23/2006 1:15:45 AM)

IronBear I am with you - quite frankly I can't see myself accepting a collar instead of a wedding ring in front of my mother and kids![:D]

We will probably have a simple ceremony in a registry office, followed by a barbie for our friends. Will have to be BYO, because we're not rich. Both of us have done the fancy wedding thing before, and we just want something simple this time around.




SirKenin -> RE: Collaring/Weddings (2/23/2006 2:26:11 AM)

I have mulled over how to mix a Ceremony of the Roses with a wedding for months now. I have religious family on one side, traditional family on the other. In that scenario it does not seem to work...




AlderTheKitty -> RE: Collaring/Weddings (2/23/2006 4:37:54 AM)

i had allways hoped for two cerimonys a simple pagan cerimoney for none lifestyle frinds and family

and a semi eleborate collering cerimony out in the woods with only close lifestyle friends maybe on the shores of a small lake at dawn as the sun is comming up




LuckyAlbatross -> RE: Collaring/Weddings (2/23/2006 6:04:00 AM)


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ORIGINAL: truesub4u
how does one tend to deal with having both?

From what I've experienced, most people who get married in the scene do so as their second marriage. They usually don't go all-out with the white traditional type thing, and have a much smaller affair- either with two ceremonies, one kinky and one vanilla, or a blended affair with mostly kinky people.

And if it's their first wedding, they usually go all out with the vanilla traditional trappings, and do a smaller kinky party later. Over the weekend in Atlanta, there was a couple who had just gotten married that day and came to have their first scene as a married couple. Personally, if I ever got married, going to a club to play would not be my choice for a first night of marriage, but it worked for them.

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How does one have the dress attire?..... the ceromonies themselves...rings vs collars...

Depends on where/what time of day/what the bride and groom desire. Generally, unless it's billed as a kinky wedding, treat it as a normal wedding. If it's billed as a kinky wedding, treat it as a normal kink night out.




jamesthehumanrug -> RE: Collaring/Weddings (2/23/2006 6:05:33 AM)

dear tru- sub 4u2,
greetings,
in regards to: what to wear, or do,in what type-ceremony;bearing "ONE" ,in mind.....

you do both sepparate;
USING, BOTH DIFFERENT BUT ,TRADITIONAL,TO, THAT CEREMONEY TYPE" SEXUAL-ADORNMENTS", OR JEWLRY....and don't forget,to articulate your best features,with, that adornment,if,or when ever possible....ie:, if your nose is your best feature;diamond it....etc.
one, so-called legit ,w/ gold-bands ;forever-stuff ,4 the relatives ,and ,friends/world, & ,again ,for your' tru-lifestyle';committment;
a slave is a slave; be it husband, in suit, or wife in babydolls; whatever...., to solidify it for real, in your own subculture again,IS to make sure you are serious ,and, not kidding ,around, in slave- goddess ;(WHATEVER THE CASE MAYBE,IN ,S AND M,),SO IN ONE CERTAIN CASE YOU HAVE TO leave the disguise, or conservatism veils ,behind WHILE,in the other ,or second-ceremoney....
but for sure ;
the both have to be done sepparately
one for reality and the other ,to let each other know you are serious.(dont wonder what slave- genius got plagiarized ,in that hit-#1.song"lets get serious")
comprenez?!,
or you may ,not be certified; recognized, by those "relavant, or signifigant-others" and ,all those fans ,and hangers,in there,IN your biz. type persons or people....
',BECOMMING ONE' IS A SOLIDIFICATION-CEREMONEY ,OR RITUAL;by principle:A "GOOD THING"(if it truly is a 'good-thing') IS ALWAYS WORTH REPEATING,or doing ,or saying ,again,SO DO IT AGAIN ;2CE!(ya i did that song too,do it again...)
remember:
the important thing is be normal,in all-cases;
"deviants are invisable";
so know your "verbal-community", and , use it,
in each sepparate ceremoney ;ie:
"verbal-community" means talk the same-vocabulary(or use the same-language) ,nothing strange,to,each-sepparate gathering;
talk s and m; buz words,and the like, in the "other ceremoney"
and, talk traditional,in the, forever,to the world-ceremoney...get it?
verbal-community is: a doctor speaks dr.- language to, other doctors, when with ,other doctors ,or colleagues,and.... lawyers do the same thing etc,
....If you talk, s and m, at the traditional party;you become ,so deviant you are ignored and, become ,"invisable"....,and , visa - versa,
if you are too conservative ,at the ,s and m ,thing;
you ,therefore,become so boring;you are an ,outsider and invisable,again,and likely to be totaly; unrecognized again....
and i know you are ,not laymen
....so be sure,to speak the same language, to the audience ,or crowd attending the unification ;they are wittnesses, to the contract.
as far as major investments go,put your money where you want to emphasize this person the most;
they both are going to be recognized,as established contacts.
the" i dont want you to think"....;dont apply here,to the partner;cause,
the partner has to know what YOU want to emphasize-personally ,and,forever;be it legal-or traditional,or slave-bondage;forever ;
they, both apply,anyway,but ,
it's what you want; the partner to know ,as what you want emphasized ,that's important;
no one can read your mind, especially, a lifetime lover;even, as "one";technically;reading each others' minds is forever impossible,so dont count on it,especially ,in this case,of we are one
one...and one what....
REST ASSURED:'primacy / recency law 'applies HERE ,TOO
WHERE
;your s and m partner ,and the world; will always recall in-VIVID-detail ;the first and last; ceremoney ;event ;etc. ,
so dont worry ;whatever you Want to emphasize; the partner will never forget ;or be able to forget, both first and last ceremoney,in detail;PERIOD,SO....
YOU REALLY CANT CONTROL WHAT THE PARTNER EMPHASIZES, IN MEMORY, AS BEING EMPHASIZED;IT'S USUALLY 'SITUATION DEPENDANT',ANYWAY,BUT SAY EXACTLY WHAT YOU WANT EMPHASIZED, AND PUT THE MONEY THERE,TOO.




HisGirl8 -> RE: Collaring/Weddings (2/23/2006 7:11:14 AM)

Excellent topic. And funny too cause last night I decided I wanted to ask something similar since I know I'm going to have to think about it soon.

I think I'd probably do something vanilla and big for all the friends and family and then something very small with a very select group of friends. Albatross was right- for my first (and hopefully last) wedding that's what I'd do.

What I do want to know, and may have to post somewhere else, is what vows have been written that may center around D/s. I'd really like to know if anyone has written vows that express these feelings. I know, personally, I will write something that shows my giving of myself to him and my submission. To me that's a big part of our wedding...




DragonNphoenix -> RE: Collaring/Weddings (2/23/2006 7:28:34 AM)

When my Dragon and I got married in Dec, we had a very public handfasting/wedding. (the pics are on our profile). We could not do a collaring at that time because of the public nature of the handfasting. But there were things wrote into the ceramony that only those in the lifestyle would have gotten. Like the fact that I 'gave myself' to Him for this life and all to come. I bonded my very soul to him. I am totally his and noone elses. Also... The black choker that you see in the pics is my 'dressy' collar. (the one I wear when I am dressing up). It has a silver dragon that was put on it when I was first collared.

I hope that you have a wonderful ceramony, what ever way you chose to go.

blessings

1st Girl Phoenix





DragonNphoenix -> RE: Collaring/Weddings (2/23/2006 7:30:46 AM)

Our vows ~ our bonding ~ was more than just a wedding/handfasting. We wrote them to express my totally submission and the complete giving myself to him. Also that he would have and keep me for all time.

1st Girl Phoenix





HisGirl8 -> RE: Collaring/Weddings (2/23/2006 7:42:05 AM)

Awww I love that. That's exactly what I want to do. Congrats on having such a wonderful ceremony and Dragon. You seem very happy :)




truesub4u -> RE: Collaring/Weddings (2/23/2006 9:52:27 AM)

I feel like a seperation between State and Church happening.

I'm gathering having both at same time isn't wise... or adviseable.




LuckyAlbatross -> RE: Collaring/Weddings (2/23/2006 9:56:53 AM)


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ORIGINAL: truesub4u

I feel like a seperation between State and Church happening.

I'm gathering having both at same time isn't wise... or adviseable.


Depends on your church. Most people in WIITWD keep their vanilla life almost/nearly completely separated from their Ds/kink life (this doesn't mean they aren't Ds in vanilla situations, only that they keep the social mixing and referencing completely separate).

Thus it can be hard when you are making a celebration of a deep part of your whole self to suddenly try and divvy it between groups of people who all want to celebrate with you.

But, if you are a generic traditional christian in the US, with a traditional christian family you are NOT out to, separation is probably the easier course.




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