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Musicmystery -> An unknown Dylan accosted while walking (8/15/2009 9:06:05 AM)

"How does it feel - to be on your own - with no direction home - a complete unknown - like a rolling stone ?"
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Rock legend Bob Dylan was treated like a complete unknown by police in a New Jersey shore community when a resident called to report someone wandering around the neighbourhood.

Dylan was in Long Branch, about a two-hour drive south of New York City, as part of a tour with Willie Nelson and John Mellencamp that was to play at a baseball stadium in nearby Lakewood.

A 24-year-old police officer apparently was unaware of who Dylan is and asked for identification, Long Branch business administrator Howard Woolley said Friday.

"I don't think she was familiar with his entire body of work," Woolley said.

The incident began at 5 p.m. when a resident said a man was wandering around a low-income, predominantly minority neighbourhood several blocks from the oceanfront looking at houses.

The police officer drove up to Dylan, who was wearing a blue jacket, and asked him his name. According to Woolley, the following exchange ensued:

"What is your name, sir?" the officer asked.

"Bob Dylan," Dylan said.

"OK, what are you doing here?" the officer asked.

"I'm on tour," the singer replied.

A second officer, also in his 20s, responded to assist the first officer. He, too, apparently was unfamiliar with Dylan, Woolley said.

The officers asked Dylan for identification. The singer of such classics as "Like a Rolling Stone" and "Blowin' in the Wind" said he didn't have any ID with him, that he was just walking around looking at houses to pass some time before that night's show.

The officers asked Dylan, 68, to accompany them back to the Ocean Place Resort where the performers were staying. Once there, tour staff vouched for Dylan.

The officers thanked him for his cooperation.

"He couldn't have been any nicer to them," Woolley added.

How did it feel? A Dylan publicist did not immediately return a call seeking comment Friday.

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[I'm on a music list-serve. Didn't give the source. But a Google search shows it's been around the news already. Sorry if it's old news here!]



DesFIP -> RE: An unknown Dylan accosted while walking (8/15/2009 9:13:33 AM)

Considering how he's had people stealing his garbage over the years, it was probably nice to be anonymous and funny to have to need to be vouched for.



ThatDamnedPanda -> RE: An unknown Dylan accosted while walking (8/15/2009 9:23:06 AM)

"She let go of my hand, and left me here facing this wall... she just acts like we never met."



Musicmystery -> RE: An unknown Dylan accosted while walking (8/15/2009 9:27:01 AM)

I was accosted for sitting in my driveway once.

I did not enjoy the experience.




FullCircle -> RE: An unknown Dylan accosted while walking (8/15/2009 9:33:18 AM)

I doubt I would recognise him by face, or maybe I would think: humm he looks familiar has he been in The Bill?

Obviously I know his name but not his face.

So if I was the police I'd say "Bob Dylan? Oh a smart guy" Then I would whack him around a bit with my daystick and ask "Are you still Bob Dylan now you punk ass mother f'er." (like in the films)

This I why I wouldn't be ideally suited to such a job[8|]



Musicmystery -> RE: An unknown Dylan accosted while walking (8/15/2009 11:07:43 AM)

FC,

Apparently, they had never heard of Bob Dylan at all.

Even if it weren't Dylan, all he was doing was going for a walk. Should ANYONE have been accosted?



Termyn8or -> RE: An unknown Dylan accosted while walking (8/15/2009 11:37:05 AM)

Actually I think sometimes famous people like to be treated just like everybody else. That's why they go out in public in disguise. Years ago I worked at a really high end place and met a few people, football players, owners of sports teams, TV personalities and such. Bob Dylan was one of our customers, although he lived a few states away. We were not known for loss leaders, but we had good deals on high end equipment. IIRC his last name is really Zimmerman.

The way some people swoon over celebrities makes me sick, and I'm sure some of them agree. I agree that possibly he should've been left alone, but an old Man walking around in a bad neighborhood is not always the best idea. I despise random intervention like that, but really, the headline could've read "Bob Dylan killed in robbery".

In most cases, people with money are better off hanging with other people with money. At least they aren't trying to get some, usually. Imagine being the Beatles in the late 1960s. You can't walk down to the corner store to get a six pack, they will hound you. And sometimes people just want to take a walk.

On the flipside, Dylan might just have an idea for a new song now.

A corridor through a field
of angry ex-wives
and open switchknives
will take all you have to yield

Then comes a Man
with a gun in his hand
in a blue suit asking who I am
sporting a numbered shield

OK OK I know that is terrible, but I ain't Bob Dylan.

T



LadyPact -> RE: An unknown Dylan accosted while walking (8/15/2009 11:37:41 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: FullCircle

I doubt I would recognise him by face, or maybe I would think: humm he looks familiar has he been in The Bill?

Obviously I know his name but not his face.

So if I was the police I'd say "Bob Dylan? Oh a smart guy" Then I would whack him around a bit with my daystick and ask "Are you still Bob Dylan now you punk ass mother f'er." (like in the films)

This I why I wouldn't be ideally suited to such a job[8|]


Second thread in a row.

I'm waiting to hear the down side of this.

Yes, yes, Bob Dylan.  Legend.  Not debating that point.



Musicmystery -> RE: An unknown Dylan accosted while walking (8/15/2009 11:46:52 AM)

quote:

Actually I think sometimes famous people like to be treated just like everybody else


I would, however, prefer this not be how everyone else is treated.



thishereboi -> RE: An unknown Dylan accosted while walking (8/15/2009 12:55:27 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

FC,

Apparently, they had never heard of Bob Dylan at all.

Even if it weren't Dylan, all he was doing was going for a walk. Should ANYONE have been accosted?



Yea I wondered about that also, and in a low income neighborhood? Maybe they thought he was a burglar with self esteem problems.



SteelofUtah -> RE: An unknown Dylan accosted while walking (8/15/2009 1:33:17 PM)

I am wondering how he was dressed. Lately Dylan has taken to wearing rather strange looking suits of Big Elaborate looking Cowboy Style Hats. I know when I saw him last, if it weren't for the fact that the suit was so clean I would have thought he was a vagerant.

I would assume they thought he was homeless or lost.

Or maybe just afraid that the white man might get killed in that neighborhood.

I would have Recognized him RIGHT AWAY and I am only 28 Bob Dylan worte many famous songs that he never gets credit for and in most cases the raw talent that he has is lost on most people who just don't care for HOW he sings.

Steel



Musicmystery -> RE: An unknown Dylan accosted while walking (8/15/2009 2:01:01 PM)

quote:

I am wondering how he was dressed.


According to one news source, "a blue jacket."

Here's another account:

Residents called to complain there was an old scruffy man acting suspiciously,' said officer Spencer. 'It was an odd request because it was mid-afternoon. But it's an ethnic Latin area and the residents felt he didn't fit in. A 22-year-old officer demanded to see his identification papers.

He assumed she would at least recognise the name if not the face. But she ordered him into the back of her car and took him to his hotel to check his story.

Then she radioed her older colleagues at the police station to ask if anyone knew who Bob Dylan was. 'I'm afraid we all fell about laughing,' said Craig Spencer, a senior officer in Long Branch, New Jersey. 'If it was me, I'd have been demanding his autograph, not his ID.

'The poor woman has taken rather a lot of abuse from us. I offered to bring in some of my Dylan albums. Unfortunately, she doesn't know what vinyl is either.'



PyrotheClown -> RE: An unknown Dylan accosted while walking (8/15/2009 2:20:05 PM)

Who's Bob Dylan?





































I wish I could claim ignorance, Unfortunitly, I was raised by a pack of hippies



thishereboi -> RE: An unknown Dylan accosted while walking (8/15/2009 3:36:08 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

quote:

I am wondering how he was dressed.


According to one news source, "a blue jacket."

Here's another account:

Residents called to complain there was an old scruffy man acting suspiciously,' said officer Spencer. 'It was an odd request because it was mid-afternoon. But it's an ethnic Latin area and the residents felt he didn't fit in. A 22-year-old officer demanded to see his identification papers.

He assumed she would at least recognise the name if not the face. But she ordered him into the back of her car and took him to his hotel to check his story.

Then she radioed her older colleagues at the police station to ask if anyone knew who Bob Dylan was. 'I'm afraid we all fell about laughing,' said Craig Spencer, a senior officer in Long Branch, New Jersey. 'If it was me, I'd have been demanding his autograph, not his ID.

'The poor woman has taken rather a lot of abuse from us. I offered to bring in some of my Dylan albums. Unfortunately, she doesn't know what vinyl is either.'



I knew it....racial profiling.



winterlight -> RE: An unknown Dylan accosted while walking (8/15/2009 3:38:37 PM)

The answer my friend is blowing in the wind.....



petmonkey -> RE: An unknown Dylan accosted while walking (8/15/2009 5:23:48 PM)

Straight outta' "Masked and Anonymous".



FullCircle -> RE: An unknown Dylan accosted while walking (8/15/2009 5:38:40 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Musicmystery
Even if it weren't Dylan, all he was doing was going for a walk. Should ANYONE have been accosted?

I remember once I was walking along a beach taking photos with probably nobody else for ten miles (a good day) except for two police officers following me around in a police car because they thought perhaps I was going to steal some sand.

"Stealing sand again I see well stealing sand is against the law, and sand stealing scum must be dealt with!"

Then I walked past a fridge freezer that had been dumped, where were they then when two people or more were dumping that?

If you are alone they suspect you of something because that is how their minds work.



thishereboi -> RE: An unknown Dylan accosted while walking (8/15/2009 6:26:57 PM)

I used to bake at a restraunt on Palm Beach. I would go for walks while waiting for stuff to rise or proof or whatever and it was usually between 1 and 4 in the morning. I got stopped all the time until they got to know me, but I never saw anyone else around. It was really strange sometimes but I loved it.



littlewonder -> RE: An unknown Dylan accosted while walking (8/15/2009 9:06:48 PM)

I can tell you with no doubt that the millenium generation has no clue at all who Bob Dylan is or anyone older than maybe 30.

They may know a handful of celebrities or events from the 60's and 70's but only because it's splashed on tv often enough for them to recognize the name but that's about it.

I'm not surprised the young police did not recognize him or his name.



LaTigresse -> RE: An unknown Dylan accosted while walking (8/16/2009 6:30:49 AM)

This makes me glad I raised my kids to know more about music and movies, than the current "it" factor.



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