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slavebf -> tease and denial? (8/25/2004 11:35:19 PM)

A question about tease and denial? I want to know more about this practice because I'm currently suffering this discipline. At one month, sex is a preoccupation with me but I also very moody, bordering on resentment towards my Mistress. My emotions are not what I'm curious about, I'll have to deal with this myself internally. What I'm curious about is the physical effects, I've read there may be physical problems with holding the cum in for so long hence the additional practice of milking. Or is this a fallacy, made up by frustrated male slaves to trick their Mistress inorder to get relief? Would definitely like to hear from Mistresses who has taken their slaves beyond. Would also like to hear from slaves too. What the real deal???



proudsub -> RE: tease and denial? (8/26/2004 9:47:07 AM)

It's probably different for males and a month seems like a very long time if you are continually taken to the edge. The longest i have gone is a week as punishment once, with being taken to the edge several times a day. For me it was almost worth it, the intensity of the orgasm was amazing when i was finally allowed to cum.[;)] I have no idea about physical effects in men, sorry.



perverseangelic -> RE: tease and denial? (8/26/2004 10:04:47 AM)

As far as I know, there are no physical effects in women. My longest period is a month and a half without orgasm. I miss it, but I'm almost positive it has no ill effects.
I don't know about men, though



Sundew02 -> RE: tease and denial? (8/26/2004 9:31:46 PM)

Hello, Just thought I would add a bit of information. And as always it depends on the male. Some men if they are teased to just shy of climax repeatedly will accumulate quite a bit of cum in the tubuals. IF you are suffering sharp pains in your sac then yes, it can become a health issue and you will need to climax to relieve the strain on your body. But most men can tolerate the tease and no for quite awhile. Think of all the males that have foresworn sex for their entire life and have lived to ripe old ages. When your body says enough of this crap it can, again with some males, cause you to have a wet dream. Also when you have a BM the stool will lightly massage your prostate and in essence give you some relief. My opinion of course, smile, as no one is here dicating. Good luck, Sundew



MaitresseEden -> RE: tease and denial? (8/27/2004 12:08:14 PM)

OOoo.. I have oddles to say on this subject, primarily because while I think short term teasing and denial can be great fun, I also feel that long term can be destructful to the relationship.

Furthermore, I simply fail to comprehend why any Mistress would choose to punish herself and deny herself sexual pleasure, and relief, and if she is partnered with a sub, she should teach him how to provide that. It is possible to achieve such while still being sadistic, and still controlling their orgasms. I'm a firm believer that activieties should seek to enhance ones sexuality not suppress it. It is possible to make it hurt so good, and it is also possible to elicit a conditioned behavioral response from a sub so that they are unable to climax without specific stimuli. Of course these things that work, on both the Mistress and the Subs part.

Now I understand that discipline is important, and there are males who can be greedy about there sexual pleasure, however in cases like that the Mistress needs to apply incentives to stick to the regime ascribed, outlets of her choosing that provide release can be ascribed granted they are often not what the male expected.

I think the thing that puzzles me the most is how often I encounter Dommes who don't enjoy sexual contact with their subs, or anyone for that matter. I think it is important to be comfortable relating to each other on all levels, and the D/s can certainly have a role between the sheets.

As for Males shrivelling up for no release.. I highly doubt it as celibacy has been around for centuries. However, the damage to ones self esteem that occurs when hope is taken away, and they are repeatedly rejected when they are willing to give it all can be detrimental to ones health and does nothing but create doormats.

In peace,

Ms. Eden



LadyAngelika -> RE: tease and denial? (8/27/2004 2:07:02 PM)

You raise some important points Eden.

I would like to add that for me it's more about controlling then when, where, how many, how often of it all. My sub usually loves this dynamic as much as I do. Challenging them to do it more often, less often, at a time of day that is different then their routine time (in the case of subs that have a routine like morning shower for example), etc.

I've always considered myself an ethical sadist. I'm not into denying orgasm for long periods of time as I don't want to attract the kind of men and women who are attracted to heartless bitches.

- LA



MaitresseEden -> RE: tease and denial? (8/27/2004 3:21:45 PM)

I've always considered myself an ethical sadist. I'm not into denying orgasm for long periods of time as I don't want to attract the kind of men and women who are attracted to heartless bitches.[/quote]- LA
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I agree.. tis better to be a loving dominant than a cruel heartless bitch. You can still have fun and be in control, and you can still tease and torment, and use chasity as an enhancement to the relationship as opposed to a deterent. Nothing is more fun than locking a sub in a chasity device when you have to be seperated and then teasing him with dirty phone calls, or if in person teaseing him by having him watch you pleasure yourself, or do the things to him that you know can push his buttons..

Peace,

Ms.Eden.. (Who finally now figured out the avatar thing)



GoddessJules -> RE: tease and denial? (8/27/2004 4:11:52 PM)

quote:

I've always considered myself an ethical sadist. I'm not into denying orgasm for long periods of time as I don't want to attract the kind of men and women who are attracted to heartless bitches.


Yes yes!!!!! Leave those lookig for heartless bitchess to me *cheesy grin*

Cheers

~Jules~



LadyAngelika -> RE: tease and denial? (8/27/2004 5:21:02 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: GoddessJules

quote:

I've always considered myself an ethical sadist. I'm not into denying orgasm for long periods of time as I don't want to attract the kind of men and women who are attracted to heartless bitches.


Yes yes!!!!! Leave those lookig for heartless bitchess to me *cheesy grin*

Cheers

~Jules~


Jules! You heartless bitch you!

At least we'll never find ourselves fighting over the same guy or girl! ;)

- LA



GoddessJules -> RE: tease and denial? (8/27/2004 5:58:31 PM)

Indeed Angelica!!

And that is what makes all of this so great. We can "partake" in D/s and BDSM in different ways, dress it up differently. . .but at the end of the day, most of us still get along.

Cheers and have a superfantabulous weekend.

~Jules~



worshipswomen30 -> RE: tease and denial? (8/29/2004 2:24:36 PM)

I know I'm vulnerable to teasing, but still haven't connected with sexy dominant woman. If I was "denied" too long (including myself that is), I wouldn't be able to concentrate to get work done. Anyhow, yes, not cumming for too long does create health problems and that's why priests have a higher rate of prostate cancer:
http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns99994861

The US study, which followed nearly 30,000 men over eight years, showed that those that ejaculated most frequently were significantly less likely to get prostate cancer. The results back the findings of a smaller Australian study revealed by New Scientist in July 2003 that asserted that masturbation was good for men.


In the US study, the group with the highest lifetime average of ejaculation - 21 times per month - were a third less likely to develop the cancer than the reference group, who ejaculated four to seven times a month.



slavebf -> RE: tease and denial? (8/29/2004 11:13:48 PM)

Thanks for all the replies, with all the varying responses my Mistress did permitted me the pleasure of masturbating this weekend. Mistress was however silent about my next. So the debate goes on...



LadyAngelika -> RE: tease and denial? (8/31/2004 5:51:36 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: GoddessJules
Indeed Angelica!!

And that is what makes all of this so great. We can "partake" in D/s and BDSM in different ways, dress it up differently. . .but at the end of the day, most of us still get along.


Exactly Jules! I love the variety in this lifestyle. And I do appreciate wonderful open minded people like you.

- LA



MsGenevieve -> RE: tease and denial? (8/31/2004 9:53:53 PM)

It is poppy cock...but it does tend to lend a man focus and aggression to prevent orgasm, which is why it is used by illegal street fighters I know when they are in fighting season, and 6 month prior.

If your body needs to discharge it will have nocturnal emissions. It is simply a lack of will power.



service2U -> RE: tease and denial? (10/2/2004 11:14:46 AM)

The best way to maintain prostate health yet still deny male orgasm/ejaculation is through prostate massage or "milking" as it is commonly called. It relieves the physical discomfort of congestion, but provides no real sexual pleasure. If done right, the male's penis not (usually) even erect. If he has no control, a penis cage or chastity device could be worn. The fluid drained during milking is NOT semen. It is mainly prostatic secretion,which forms the bulk of the material ejaculated during normal orgasm. Prostatic fluid, along with sperm from the testicles and "pre-cum" from the Cowper's gland, mix together to make up semen. The fluid milked out by prostate massage is mostly clearish and runny, not thick and white like semen.



GoddessDustyGold -> RE: tease and denial? (10/2/2004 5:11:15 PM)

Of course if you are living-in then you are most likely in a constant state of tease and denial, even if it is not your Mistress's deliberate intent. The ideal, and a reason for chastity devices (I love them!) is to control the male who does, indeed, think with his cock. I think it is a matter of each individual's need. I watch a male for signs of tension. Weekly ejaculation is good, to work towards monthly is better. But I also have a male cuckold friend who tells Me that if he goes longer than three weeks, not only is his ejaculate darker in color, but the orgasm is almost painful. There are males who wish for lifetime ogasm suppression. I don't understand this need, and I do not milk, so My slaves are allowed regular masturbation at My feet. Besides, it is so much fun for Me to watch! So I guess I fall into the "nice bitch" category? LOL



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