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limits - 2/23/2006 5:04:21 PM

DragonNphoenix

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I have come to the understanding that I am not aware of the warning signs that my body is giving me when I have had too much, or almost too much. This is a very scary thought. I was wondering if anyone could give me advise. I know that my Dragon would never want anything to happen to me. Hell.... I have never even used a safe word in my life. My Dragon is good at watching my body... trying to make sure that I dont go too far,,, but shouldnt I be aware also??

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RE: limits - 2/23/2006 6:45:35 PM

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Two words:

Go slow.

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RE: limits - 2/23/2006 7:19:30 PM

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I am not aware of the warning signs that my body is giving me when I have had too much, or almost too much.

What does that mean to you? How is that playing out?

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RE: limits - 2/23/2006 7:49:19 PM

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What warning signs? In retrospect, can you tell? Can you talk to us further about it?

If it is any consolation, i started going into shock over something recently Unbeknownst to me, i started crying, "i'm freaking out over here!!!" hysterically, followed by, "i can't hang on anymore...." It seems when i reached my true "limit' of what i could handle, my brain screamed it through me.

If you don't want to get too detailed in public, i am always open to an email.

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RE: limits - 2/23/2006 8:10:37 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: DragonNphoenix

I have come to the understanding that I am not aware of the warning signs that my body is giving me when I have had too much, or almost too much. This is a very scary thought. I was wondering if anyone could give me advise. I know that my Dragon would never want anything to happen to me. Hell.... I have never even used a safe word in my life. My Dragon is good at watching my body... trying to make sure that I dont go too far,,, but shouldnt I be aware also??

1st Girl Phoenix

Some of us are ruled by our bodies, and others are ruled by our minds, because one can overpower the other sometimes. If you are the latter kind of person, maybe some kind of practice that encourages greater awareness of the body might help you connect wth it better. I can't think of anything specific, but a lot of the oriental arts seem to help with this kind of thing.

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RE: limits - 2/24/2006 7:23:50 AM

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The last time that my Dragon caned me... I was soo into the act that he could have caned me until I bleed to death and I would not have noticed. He stopped and had to carry me to the bed..my legs would not support my weight. Also...I am bruised after every session.. no matter what it is that we are doing. It is always Him that stops and says that I have had enough, even if I am laying there begging for more. It is like the women that would beg for Sade to continue and he would end up killing them. I know that I am lucky that my Dragon knows his own limits and that he is aware of just how much my body can take...

Does this clear things up a bit??

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RE: limits - 2/24/2006 8:02:23 AM

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i have also been in situations where had he not known when to stop, i would have gone over the edge. It is the act of putting our complete trust and care into their hands. It is an ultimate depth of submission. i know that feeling well, of not being able to stand...or of nearly passing out...or of only being able to lay there in a heap afterwards, mumbling, drooling, trembling all over, incomprehensable...

As for your question, if you should also be aware...i'm not really sure how to answer that. If you trust him to know your limits, and to know when to stop, and to read your body and reactions (i am typically quite bruised, or have breaks in my skin), then, as discussed on a different thread, you have given him all control, which may be exactly what he wants.

Have you talked to him about this? Does he feel confident enough to read you? Would he prefer you let go and give all to him...or to learn to be more aware? If he isn't sure of his confidence, then by all means what LA said - go slowly.

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RE: limits - 2/24/2006 8:53:23 AM

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I agree with LA go slow i have not been with my Master all that long and we are into the exploring stage learning what i can and cannot take we are going very slow because he wants it to be good for me also. So just take it slow and trust your Master.

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RE: limits - 2/24/2006 9:21:25 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: DragonNphoenix Also...I am bruised after every session.. no matter what it is that we are doing.
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This in itself gives you someplace to start. If you are bruising badly, you may need to take care of yourself in other ways. Improving your health and nutrition often makes people more aware of their bodies and helps define sensations. This COULD be more of a physical issue than simply "knowing". If your body is not in the proper condition to send and receive signals, it doesn't matter what your heart and brain want to do, the message doesn't get where it needs to be.

If you aren't already, try starting with multivitamins, but you can get good advice at a GNC or health food store. Watch your food, exercise and weight carefully. Don't be obsessed, just pay attention and make good choices (those choices that are yours to make.) With better health will come a change in perception of the physical body as well as our reactions to stimuli.

I understand that I turned this a different direction that the original thread was intended, but sometimes it's good to see outside the box. The answer could always be on a path we didn't think was going to get us there.

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RE: limits - 2/24/2006 10:26:03 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: ownedgirlie

i have also been in situations where had he not known when to stop, i would have gone over the edge. It is the act of putting our complete trust and care into their hands. It is an ultimate depth of submission. i know that feeling well, of not being able to stand...or of nearly passing out...or of only being able to lay there in a heap afterwards, mumbling, drooling, trembling all over, incomprehensable...

As for your question, if you should also be aware...i'm not really sure how to answer that. If you trust him to know your limits, and to know when to stop, and to read your body and reactions (i am typically quite bruised, or have breaks in my skin), then, as discussed on a different thread, you have given him all control, which may be exactly what he wants.

Have you talked to him about this? Does he feel confident enough to read you? Would he prefer you let go and give all to him...or to learn to be more aware? If he isn't sure of his confidence, then by all means what LA said - go slowly.

He is very confident in what he is doing.. Yes.. we have talked. He recently told me what signs that he looks for in me to let him know that I am close to having enough. So far, I have had to rely on him totally.

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RE: limits - 2/24/2006 10:28:57 AM

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I know that my physical health is always an issue. I have diebetes and graves disorder, so we are constently watching what I eat, making sure I get enough rest, etc. I will discuss with Him about my diet and see what he says.

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RE: limits - 2/24/2006 6:09:08 PM

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quote:

My Dragon is good at watching my body... trying to make sure that I dont go too far,,, but shouldnt I be aware also??

For some, the release of pain can be so intense, that you become only aware of that feeling alone. I am much the same, in that state, nothing else matters except enhancing those feelings. You are very lucky indeed that your Master is so concerned and aware of what you can not be aware of at those times. You obviously trust him at those times. Let your trust in him, and his concern for you rule.

And as LA said....GO SLOW....

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RE: limits - 2/24/2006 10:17:24 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: IrishMist

quote:

My Dragon is good at watching my body... trying to make sure that I dont go too far,,, but shouldnt I be aware also??

For some, the release of pain can be so intense, that you become only aware of that feeling alone. I am much the same, in that state, nothing else matters except enhancing those feelings. You are very lucky indeed that your Master is so concerned and aware of what you can not be aware of at those times. You obviously trust him at those times. Let your trust in him, and his concern for you rule.

And as LA said....GO SLOW....

Yes.. I have spoken with my Dragon tonight. I need to start letting go and letting him be my guide and protector.

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RE: limits - 2/24/2006 10:19:04 PM

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ORIGINAL: DragonNphoenix

Yes.. I have spoken with my Dragon tonight. I need to start letting go and letting him be my guide and protector.

1st Girl Phoenix

From your posts, it sounds like you are in such good hands...

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RE: limits - 2/25/2006 12:25:39 AM

DragonNphoenix

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Yes.. I am. Thank you.

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RE: limits - 2/25/2006 3:36:46 PM

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I think it's a function of sub space myself. We're more bondage oriented and if you went by me, I'd never get untied. But there have been times when he's untied me and wrapped me up while I'm protesting that I'm fine. Afterwards came the pins and needles in my hands which I never even noticed had gone cold and numb. He's careful to touch me all over and check color and temp.

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RE: limits - 2/27/2006 10:22:51 AM

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I know that I lose myslef in subspace. I have asked to be restrained while sleeping... He has said that I am not ready for this. I have to trust him in this and know that he knows what is best for me.

I am glad that you have a caring Dominant.

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