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beawulf123 -> Etiquette for Mistress', Master's and slaves (8/17/2009 3:30:54 PM)

I really need some opinions and advise. I was asked to consider taking courses of slavery and submission given in DC with Dominant affiliates with the Crucible. I have beeen involved most of my life as a slave to women and would also obey anyone She tells me too. This was a committed relationship at the time, and friends were served by me either in manual physical labor or domestics. The dynamics here is that I was the Alpha and she was "the air I breath", my life. Anyway I went to munches with her frquently. Never did I experiance this level knumb nuttery from any man. But for everything there is a first time.  At least 3x's at the muches, there was a male dom there, that was very bolsterous, mouthy and quite disrespectful to many people. I was told he was a former police officer. I told Mistress that I am uncomfortable with this man's behavior. She told me to tolerate it, he is a Master and you are a slave. But though you are not his, respect must be shown. Ok I did as told. My Mistress happens to be a very Dark Skinned Latina. Looking more Morrocan or Ethiopian very exotic looking. So her being stared as though men were giving her x-rays with there eyes, never bothered me. My being secure because of who I am and her collar was what I wore. I would take it more as a compliment, then an insecurity. Besides Mistress will do and have whomever and whatever she desires. It is the lifestyle and I know my place. Long story short, we were at Floating World in Jersey.  Sure enough Master Mouth showed up and had a Lady in a collar and leash. Mistress was talking to her circle of friends. I stood next to her in cow -tow, but I was watching him. He was staring at her and I knew deep down drama was destined. My "Life" looked at me and told me to turn around and to accompany her to a single tail seminar. As we walked away he motioned to her and asked to speak with her. She nodded yes and he told her of her beauty and that he wanted to know what it felt like to be one with her. I thought ok! That was respectful way of asking. She thanked him for the offer but was not interested. We all parted. After we got out of that whip class, sure enough Master Mouth was there and told her she was a c- -t and that all she will ever have is half men to f- - k .  She held my chain tightly and told me to heel. She gave it back to him with emasculating words.
My question to all, Masters and Mistress, and slaves of both Genders. Firstly my thoughts of Female Domination is just that women are superior. So I  see a man as an equal in status to me . But out of common sense of the BDSM -S/m lifstyle. I will acknowledge his role, though I feel differently. Secondly I don't believe my status as a slave should be taken so lightly. One of my duties to Mistress is protect her at all costs! As the day came to a close I did see him, said nothing, but stared him down. Again Mistress warned me for not respecting superiors. So what is the etiquette here. Please explain. Am I a slave to all Doms and Visa \ Versa.? I would appreciate some clarification.
Oh and I did approach him in the parking lot and Yes I beat the hell out of him. And left before the police arrived.      




Politesub53 -> RE: Etiquette for Mistress', Master's and slaves (8/17/2009 3:45:44 PM)

A difficult question, if told by my Mistress to drop the matter, i would have done. If left to my own devices, he would have got a good hiding. I think her wishes should have been paramount though.




Lashra -> RE: Etiquette for Mistress', Master's and slaves (8/17/2009 4:55:15 PM)

In MY own rule book it would have gone like this. I would have told my sub to let me handle it and the reason is I can rock with the best of 'em. By the time I was done making Mister Mouthy look like an uncouth ass, he would have wished that he had kept his big mouth closed.

As for his comment about your Mistress and "half men" that is envy talking hun. He wanted her, YOU have her and nothing he could do could change that. Hold your head up high and be proud that your Mistress handled it like a Lady, because she made Mister Mouthy look like a fool. If you had slugged him then everyone would be calling you an uncouth brute. Let him look like the ass and you the Lady's Knight.

Also as far as I am concerned MY sub belongs to me and no one else. He should be polite, but he does not have to kiss anyone's ass (but mine lol) thats for sure.

~Lashra




trappedinamuseum -> RE: Etiquette for Mistress', Master's and slaves (8/17/2009 5:02:41 PM)

A few things:

1. If I were in that situation, I would let him handle it.  I would assume that someone could be perceived as "weak" if their slave interfered.

2. I don't submit to others.  I always am told "don't be rude, but be firm."  I am not about to submit to someone else just because I submit to one person.  I think that is just asking for trouble. 

3. I was on your side until you said "Oh and I did approach him in the parking lot and Yes I beat the hell out of him. And left before the police arrived."

I sincerely hope you are joking.  That just shows that you are as much of an uncouth ass as he is, and a criminal / coward at that. 






DarkSteven -> RE: Etiquette for Mistress', Master's and slaves (8/17/2009 6:09:37 PM)

Your Mistress handled the situation well.

There's more to the lifestyle than being led around on a leash.  You have to obey when told to.

I would have no problem with you attacking the guy if you thought that he posed a physical; danger to your Mistress.  He didn't.  So (assuming that your story is true), you attacked a man who was an ex-cop and trained in self-defense who did not pose a threat to your Mistress because you felt that your feelings about the situation were more important than hers.  If she finds out that you attacked someone when she clearly did not wish it, breaking the law and putting yourself needlessly in physical danger, you're out as her slave, buddy.




LadyPact -> RE: Etiquette for Mistress', Master's and slaves (8/17/2009 6:25:29 PM)

In My opinion, the Mistress did handle the situation appropriately.  Such a thing would have gotten a reaction from Me, but I don't care for anyone insulting My sub.

However, if I were the Mistress in question and My sub did what you did, I'd have punished him.  I think My sub is well aware of the fact that I would be looking at the whole picture, and him risking jail time or his career over such a thing would not have met with My approval.  I have no issue with him defending himself if there is a threat to him, but chasing down someone who insulted him doesn't cover that.  I'd have already handled that and he would have to accept My authority that it was over.




fadedshadow -> RE: Etiquette for Mistress', Master's and slaves (8/17/2009 6:45:50 PM)

if i were you, i would have done as my mistress said and i wouldn't have attacked the guy




MissCake -> RE: Etiquette for Mistress', Master's and slaves (8/17/2009 6:59:43 PM)

I think you would have been right to obey her, but also right to feel protective of her and offended by this man's behavior.  While I would likely want to handle such a man myself, I also enjoy hearing from my subs that they feel so strongly and would be willing to step in and defend, to champion me, so to speak.  Your instincts were not wrong, but you needed to obey her wishes, especially since she was in no danger from this person.

Some years ago I was doing some volunteer outreach work alongside my former sub, who failed to step in when I was being loudly berated and nearly assaulted by a homeless man.  There is a time and place where the taller, physically stronger male sub should "man up".  Of course, I hadn't ordered him to stand down.  He was just a wuss.




sweetsub1957 -> RE: Etiquette for Mistress', Master's and slaves (8/17/2009 7:01:02 PM)

Were Sir & I in such a situation, I would let Him take care of it.  I would be obedient  and not take matters into my own hands later on.  Even though I'm a "girl," I can be tough when necessary, but obedience is always better than hot-headedness.




lilsubrt -> RE: Etiquette for Mistress', Master's and slaves (8/18/2009 4:34:46 AM)

     Dude, this subbie has one simple question, What did She Tell you To Do ? It appears She said to, " Heel ". that my friend means HEEL, not take matters into your own hands. It was there that you crossed the line and broke the Rules of Etiquette, ya Can't Do That my man. She calls the shots not you. She gave you a Specific Command, not a suggestion open to your interpretation. If Idiot boy had attempted anything physical, She Would have given you the Green Light, then by all means Protect Your Mistress and do it like a Pit Bull. She most likely knew he was  all mouth and Woof Cookies and She could easily beat him down. Your Primary job as Her sub is to Obey and leave the Thinking to Her. She will let you know what to do and when. 

    lilsubrt
    Owned by Goddess since 4/10/05




slavekal -> RE: Etiquette for Mistress', Master's and slaves (8/18/2009 7:45:42 AM)

Your Mistress will let you know when she needs you to step up.  Like she would with a big dog.  My Mistress would have let me off the leash right off the bat, and I would have straightened out that guy fast, but your Mistress has her own style.  You have no obligation to submit to anybody.  That big mouthed jerk is only a "master" because he says he is.  It's not like he's a general and you're a private. Your Mistress is mistaken about him being your superior.




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