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sandra25 -> overweight slave (8/18/2009 1:48:36 PM)

Question to You all!

What are the chances that someone seeks a girl who's overweight, who can be molded physically?




LaTigresse -> RE: overweight slave (8/18/2009 2:06:03 PM)

I don't know many that go looking for one. However, for me, and I am sure I am not alone, if a girl appeals to me as a human being and is someone I want in my life and home, I will create an environment to help them be the best they can. Whatever that entails.




Toppingfrmbottom -> RE: overweight slave (8/18/2009 2:10:59 PM)

LaTigress, there's a whole sub section of kink that are into fat people, usualy called chubby chasers,  or feeders but the only experince I have  had with chubby chasers and feeders, is they want to make the person gain weight not loose. So if the fat girl was looking to loose weight, they wouldn't fit in with a chubby chaser or a gainers desires.




ShaktiSama -> RE: overweight slave (8/18/2009 2:38:26 PM)

So far as women go, I prefer a more voluptuous figure rather than a slimmer one.  I always look for what is beautiful and special about a person, don't get me wrong, but a woman with curves and softness is much more likely to get a visceral erotic response from me than one showing a lot of bones, especially the ribs and pelvis.

What I am not and would never be looking for, however, is a girl who doesn't like her own body and wants me to turn her into something she is not.  "Physically molded" sounds like a person who wants me to control her body and make it fit a mold that you see in fashion and fitness magazines.

I'm not a personal trainer type domme in the first place, but I would also never work against my own appetites by taking a girl with delectable breasts and hips and whipping her into the stick figure that everyone else in my society seems to find so attractive.  [:'(]  Not to mention the fact that as a voyeur and a sensualist, I'm aroused by exhibitionists who find their own bodies sexy.  Not by people who hate and are ashamed of their bodies.




Toppingfrmbottom -> RE: overweight slave (8/18/2009 2:57:41 PM)

It does not automatically mean you hate or are ashamed of your body to want a dom to take control of your weight and body looks and to shape you. I am neither ashamed of my body nor do I hate my body and I would still love a dom to help me with weight loss and exercise, and no I will never be a twig nor do I want to be a twig, but I would like help to weigh less, for my health.
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ORIGINAL: ShaktiSama


I'm not a personal trainer type domme in the first place, but I would also never work against my own appetites by taking a girl with delectable breasts and hips and whipping her into the stick figure that everyone else in my society seems to find so attractive.  [:'(]  Not to mention the fact that as a voyeur and a sensualist, I'm aroused by exhibitionists who find their own bodies sexy.  Not by people who hate and are ashamed of their bodies.




DavanKael -> RE: overweight slave (8/18/2009 6:06:59 PM)

If I care for a person, I'm not terribly concerned with the pieces-parts. 
That having been said, what you described isn't something I would theoretically look for; it is not a physical type I find broadly desirable.  I also don't want to have to micromanage things like a person's weight. 
  Davan




Andalusite -> RE: overweight slave (8/18/2009 6:56:28 PM)

I've done this a bit with a couple of men I've dated, at their request. I wasn't particularly focused on moulding them, but they wanted me to hold them accountable for diet/exercise, and do active things with them like going to the gym, hiking, etc. It's a lot more fun with a workout buddy, and having to report in helped them reach their goals more easily.

I do a form of competitive gymnastics. I eat reasonably well, and am not overweight, but could probably benefit from a little accountability in that area. I appreciate it a lot when my Master helps me with my stretching since it's more fun having him involved, and I can get a better range of motion with his assistance. He and a couple of my friends also spot me in handstands and backbends and such that I can't do without a spotter, and it's lovely to get some extra work in on them in between regular practice sessions.




Loxosceles -> RE: overweight slave (8/18/2009 7:13:07 PM)


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ORIGINAL: sandra25
Question to You all!
What are the chances that someone seeks a girl who's overweight, who can be molded physically?


At 5'8" and 168 pounds, your BMI is 25.5 - barely overweight (and if you and if you lose 5 lbs, your BMI would be 24.8 which would be considered normal)

Not much molding to be done here.




LadyNTrainer -> RE: overweight slave (8/18/2009 7:53:43 PM)

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ORIGINAL: ShaktiSama
I'm not a personal trainer type domme in the first place, but I would also never work against my own appetites by taking a girl with delectable breasts and hips and whipping her into the stick figure that everyone else in my society seems to find so attractive.  [:'(]  Not to mention the fact that as a voyeur and a sensualist, I'm aroused by exhibitionists who find their own bodies sexy.  Not by people who hate and are ashamed of their bodies.


I am a personal trainer type domme, and helping people work towards a goal of being healthier, fitter and sexier can be a good thing.  If someone doesn't find their body sexy, I don't mind helping them work on making it sexier, and that can be a dual process of both the body and the mind. 

It is possible to be both (somewhat) fat and still quite fit however, and society's traditional Twiggy mold is not nearly as healthy as someone with greater muscle mass, good cardiovascular health and some fat padding.

Loxosceles - BMI is a pile of chit.  According to BMI, all bodybuilders are fat.  :/   BF% is a lot more telling.




Loxosceles -> RE: overweight slave (8/18/2009 8:01:55 PM)


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ORIGINAL: LadyNTrainer

Loxosceles - BMI is a pile of chit.  According to BMI, all bodybuilders are fat.  :/   BF% is a lot more telling.


It isn't a "pile of chit" when applied correctly:
http://www.cdc.gov/healthyweight/assessing/bmi/adult_bmi/index.html

yes - it doesn't work for bodybuilders. by her photo, she isn't a body builder.
Statistically speaking, this is probably right on target for her.




pyroaquatic -> RE: overweight slave (8/18/2009 8:56:16 PM)

Damn this penis La Tigress. Damn it.

I would want everyone to be healthy... a healthy ego, a healthy weight, healthy lifestyle.
Activity is important as well as developing the resistance to fatigue.



.....




sandra25 -> RE: overweight slave (8/19/2009 4:00:44 AM)

I agree with LadyN, mine is 31 now.




BoiJen -> RE: overweight slave (8/19/2009 5:21:37 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Loxosceles


quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyNTrainer

Loxosceles - BMI is a pile of chit.  According to BMI, all bodybuilders are fat.  :/   BF% is a lot more telling.


It isn't a "pile of chit" when applied correctly:
http://www.cdc.gov/healthyweight/assessing/bmi/adult_bmi/index.html

yes - it doesn't work for bodybuilders. by her photo, she isn't a body builder.
Statistically speaking, this is probably right on target for her.



Citing the CDC is a really bad idea. They often have far outdated information, for example...the information you cited was compiled with the most recent source being 7 years old (2002) and the oldest source being 24 years old (1985).

Since then, the national standards for measuring appropriate weight has shifted to a body fat content focus rather than BMI...primarily because BMI reported every single major and most minor athletes to be "overweight".

To further illustrate my point, the CDC still tells people that they could possibly contract HIV or AIDS from coming in close physical contact with a positive individual. The CDC is a horrible source of information when it comes to health issues.

Just sayin....

boi




SweetNika -> RE: overweight slave (8/19/2009 5:38:04 AM)

I dont want someone to be w/me because they want to change me, I honestly have trouble w/ that concept. I will never be twiggy. For me it's not about me not excercising or eating healthy its about outside things such as medication and stressors that cause the weight gain.




Andalusite -> RE: overweight slave (8/19/2009 8:18:15 AM)

Sandra, I agree that you don't look overweight, more on the heavier side of the range you look good in. I'm fine from around 115 to 140 - I can mostly wear the same clothes, look good, and am still fit, but sometimes I do want to adjust within that range deliberately. Also, becoming more toned, flexible, developing better balance, coordination, and cardio capacity/endurance can be good goals, even if you don't want your weight to change. If you wanted to lose a significant amount of weight or go on a strict diet, though, I would be concerned about a potential eating disorder. For right now, you might have better luck finding a workout buddy or someone to be accountable to (I think there's a kinky fitness and weightloss group on Yahoo that someone mentioned recently).




LaTigresse -> RE: overweight slave (8/19/2009 9:20:47 AM)

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ORIGINAL: pyroaquatic

Damn this penis La Tigress. Damn it.

I would want everyone to be healthy... a healthy ego, a healthy weight, healthy lifestyle.
Activity is important as well as developing the resistance to fatigue.

.....



Pyro, I have said this before and I will say it again. You are a delightful young man and will, without a doubt, find a woman that knows she has a treasure when she finds you.




shadowowl -> RE: overweight slave (8/19/2009 10:20:04 AM)

Well I'm not a female slave but I am overweight and my Mistress wants me to lose weight and mold me.
She would want to mold me either way but even before I met her I had been working on losing weight, albeit slowly.  
Now that Mistress has told me that I need to be under 200 or she will leave me i've ofcourse stepped up my efforts and hired a personal trainer.
Now it may not seem fair that someone would say lose weight or you're done but she knew I wanted to lose weight and have been working on it so really she is providing more incentive and at the same time taking some control of the situation away from me as now it's no longer I want to lose weight it's now I have to lose weight.
She didn't seek an overweight slave though she sought one that matched her personality and what she wanted.   The fact I'm overweight is just something that has to be worked on but that's the thing it can be worked on and as long as I continue my efforts she will support and help mold me into the image both of us want.

There is an old saying dress for the job you want, not the job you have.   This is very applicable in D/s,  if you want a D that wants to mold you and get you into healthier shape, to attract that sort of D you have to make the effort and start now.   Because a D that does want to do that isn't going to want to waste their time on someone that has no desire to be healthy and in shape so they will look for ones that are putting in the effort and at least trying even if you are not being succesfull at it.   Least that's the way I see it :)




pyroaquatic -> RE: overweight slave (8/19/2009 2:56:07 PM)

Yes, and you will find yours too La Tigress.

:D

I bike. ALOT.

Infact I might be off in a few minutes to go another twelve miles.




MsStarlett -> RE: overweight slave (8/19/2009 3:49:06 PM)

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ORIGINAL: pyroaquatic

Damn this penis La Tigress. Damn it.



I won't damn it... But I wouldn't mind doing rather frightening things to it.  [:)]




fadedshadow -> RE: overweight slave (8/19/2009 5:39:59 PM)

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ORIGINAL: MsStarlett

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ORIGINAL: pyroaquatic

Damn this penis La Tigress. Damn it.



I won't damn it... But I wouldn't mind doing rather frightening things to it.  [:)]



would this involve hot wax and clamps? =P




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