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ORIGINAL: SimplyV

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ORIGINAL: angelic

the Feminist group is one of the largest political groups in this nation today... That's why i blame the 'group'... please don't misunderstand... i am not dissing Wwomen here... i am totally disgusted with what Oour country has become... it has lost it's sense of fairness

I don't get this whole "loss of fairness" ... When has this country been known for its fairness?

Men don't get the kids mainly cuz well.. ever since .. well.. since forever.. women have been the child caregivers, so women have always gotten the kids. Feminism or not. Actually men are getting the kids more and more now.

And Our country.. has never really been fair. Salem witch trials.. Slavery.. Segregation.. Glass Ceilings.. Gay Bashing.. Racism.. Take your pick.. and I'm sure there are more, and will be more to come.

The country gives up one.. just to find another one to latch onto.

But then.. that could be my pessimist view of the masses leeching out onto my keyboard.

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ORIGINAL: Aimtoplease101

Don't let the pessimism get you down!

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ORIGINAL: Aimtoplease101

Don't let the pessimism get you down!

Great quote! Mind if i use it?

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Again this weird idea that feminism is some monolith system.

Of course it isn't, but some tried to make it so. It was not at all unusual for NOW to eject members who diagreed with their philosophy, including author Camille Pagila. Some groups, like Feminist Action League in New England, wore scissors around their necks to public events and ejected attendees they only THOUGHT would oppose them.

BTW, the first feminist author I'm aware of that advocated universal castration for men was Andrea Dworkin. After being outed at a NYC club as a masochist with a master, she has since backed away from her original posit.

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Not all Feminist hate/disrespect men thats a very big misconception and not all feminists are lesbians either. I'm a feminist, I dont hate/disrespect men and Im not a lesbian. I believe everyone is equal, but I also know in reality that with the laws of the US we aren't all equal, not yet.

Lashra

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ORIGINAL: angelic

For me... i don't want to be equal. i don't want to be able to stand and pee. Now, before i am flamed for that, it is only me i refer to, i do not expect anyone else to subscribe to my way of thinking.

edited to add: although it would be nice if Yya'll agreed with me for once! (disclaimer: that's a joke!!!)

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ORIGINAL: NeedToUseYou

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ORIGINAL: angelic

For me... i don't want to be equal. i don't want to be able to stand and pee. Now, before i am flamed for that, it is only me i refer to, i do not expect anyone else to subscribe to my way of thinking.

edited to add: although it would be nice if Yya'll agreed with me for once! (disclaimer: that's a joke!!!)

I don't think you really believe you aren't equal. Men and women are better at different things. If I just focus on those things that men are better at in general I could build an argument for Male Supremacy, If I focus on those things that women are generally better at I could build a case in that direction. That's what happens when people get into the superiority debate, they focus on what they want to. They just ignore superiority of the other sex in other areas. Men are generally better at Math, Women are generally better in communication related skills. Men are generally Stronger, Women are generally more flexible. Men are generally more visually oriented (sex and relationships), Women are generally more emotionally oriented(sex and relationships). However, there are exceptions to every rule and the degree of the predisposition to general ways of thinking, are as much an effect by environment as genetics. So, who's better, well, it really depends on what you are doing at any particular time, and even then sometimes the best person wouldn't be the general sex related with being better at that task. There is no universal here. There are only general rules when talking of large groups.

Anyone, who states all women are superior, or all Men are superior is wrong. But any woman that states I'm superior to everyone, well, I call that love

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ORIGINAL: angelic

Actually, Sir... i do NOT wish to be equal. i am sure that sounds odd to Mmany but it is truly how i feel. That should not be misconstrued to mean i am a doormat, can't think for myself am not intelligent, etc. It simply means i have been aware of my place for quite some time now and i am very happy with that place.

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ORIGINAL: angelic

Actually, Sir... i do NOT wish to be equal. i am sure that sounds odd to Mmany but it is truly how i feel. That should not be misconstrued to mean i am a doormat, can't think for myself am not intelligent, etc. It simply means i have been aware of my place for quite some time now and i am very happy with that place.

Okay, but do you believe it's a univesal or just in your case. As in Men in general are superior to women.

Sorry reread, I was stuck in the thread topic of all of one sex being superior to all of the other, and took your statement to mean all women, when you were just talking of yourself. (see the communication skills thing showing my inferiority in that regard). Bonks self on head if that's not what you were saying.

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ORIGINAL: angelic

For me... i don't want to be equal. i don't want to be able to stand and pee. Now, before i am flamed for that, it is only me i refer to, i do not expect anyone else to subscribe to my way of thinking.

edited to add: although it would be nice if Yya'll agreed with me for once! (disclaimer: that's a joke!!!)

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ORIGINAL: angelic

For me... i don't want to be equal. i don't want to be able to stand and pee. Now, before i am flamed for that, it is only me i refer to, i do not expect anyone else to subscribe to my way of thinking.

edited to add: although it would be nice if Yya'll agreed with me for once! (disclaimer: that's a joke!!!)

I personally would love to stand and pee and not have it run down My leg...lmao


I have to add that Women are better at some things AND Men are better at some things...
Do WE all have the capicity to be equal?In some ways yes and in some ways no some one has to be the big guy/gal to get the jar open and someone has to be the mom/dad that gets the kids to bed.
What matters is it all works out in the end...doesnt matter who does what,as long as your happy doing it.

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ORIGINAL: angelic

For me... i don't want to be equal. i don't want to be able to stand and pee. Now, before i am flamed for that, it is only me i refer to, i do not expect anyone else to subscribe to my way of thinking.

edited to add: although it would be nice if Yya'll agreed with me for once! (disclaimer: that's a joke!!!)

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ORIGINAL: NeedToUseYou
I don't think you really believe you aren't equal. Men and women are better at different things. If I just focus on those things that men are better at in general I could build an argument for Male Supremacy, If I focus on those things that women are generally better at I could build a case in that direction. That's what happens when people get into the superiority debate, they focus on what they want to. They just ignore superiority of the other sex in other areas.

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ORIGINAL: angelic
Actually, Sir... i do NOT wish to be equal. i am sure that sounds odd to Mmany but it is truly how i feel. That should not be misconstrued to mean i am a doormat, can't think for myself am not intelligent, etc. It simply means i have been aware of my place for quite some time now and i am very happy with that place.

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i doubt you mean this in a human rights way tho

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ORIGINAL: angelic

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i doubt you mean this in a human rights way tho

you are correct RA, i was merely trying to lighten the thread up just a bit.

Having said that, it is still my belief (notice i said my belief) that feminism has to some degree caused the demise of what is truly equal in this country. Can i quote or give facts for that belief? No not really, i read much about what is happening in our schools and our court system. The pendulum is swinging and i believe that at some point true equality will win out. In my opinion, it is not yet there as the pendulum is swinging more toward being fair to women than to men.