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An idea for the Collarme.com community


Option for lifestyle or pro users
  46% (22)
Just keep it the same as before
  53% (25)


Total Votes : 47
(last vote on : 8/23/2009 8:45:29 PM)
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IrishMist -> RE: An idea for the Collarme.com community (8/22/2009 12:58:00 PM)

I have the perfect solution.

You write to someone.
They write back saying that you have to 'pay tribute' to continue the conversation.
You hit delete mail, block sender button.

Problem solved.

Oh wait.

That' won't work. Too much time and effort involved. I forgot. Shame on me.

[&o]




MistressSassy66 -> RE: An idea for the Collarme.com community (8/22/2009 1:16:03 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: IrishMist

I have the perfect solution.

You write to someone.
They write back saying that you have to 'pay tribute' to continue the conversation.
You hit delete mail, block sender button.

Problem solved.

Oh wait.

That' won't work. Too much time and effort involved. I forgot. Shame on me.

[&o]



Thats funny and true [:D]




stella41b -> RE: An idea for the Collarme.com community (8/22/2009 3:16:57 PM)

I know this might sound to some people a somewhat unusual idea, but how about accepting the fact that having a profile and being a free member on this site doesn't entitle you to anything more than that?

How about just letting it go and moving on when someone doesn't meet your expectations?




fluffypet61 -> RE: An idea for the Collarme.com community (8/22/2009 5:52:17 PM)

i voted   "Just keep it the same as before".
 
Use block & delete.  Use the filters.




MadameMarque -> RE: An idea for the Collarme.com community (8/22/2009 8:43:30 PM)

Yes, shame on you for discouraging someone trying to devise a practical solution to what for many, is a problem.  It is their time and their effort being wasted, and life is short, is it not?  Maybe not everyone would like to waste theirs, if there's a practical alternative. 
 
Not to mention the unpleasant experience of contacting people for a very personal, emotionally charged reason, only to find that you just represent money signs $$$ in their eyes.  
 
Is it too much for you to imagine, that some people find that disheartening, after the 12th or the 50th time?  
 
Maybe if your own toes aren't being stepped on, you don't consider it to be a problem.  But please don't discourage those who want to make a positive suggestion, when they see a possibility for improvement.
 
quote:

ORIGINAL: IrishMist

I have the perfect solution.

You write to someone.
They write back saying that you have to 'pay tribute' to continue the conversation.
You hit delete mail, block sender button.

Problem solved.

Oh wait.

That' won't work. Too much time and effort involved. I forgot. Shame on me.

[&o]


Edited to add: I wonder that so many people have a sniping, self righteous attitude, whenever someone makes some constructive suggestion about CM.  How does the original post suggest entitlement?  It wouldn't be the first time CM added a new search option to improve people's experience of the site, and while this suggestion's not a panacea, it would probably be useful in reducing the time aspiring submissives and slaves waste contacting mismatched people. 

Edited twice!  I took out reference to people misrepresenting themselves.




VampiresLair -> RE: An idea for the Collarme.com community (8/22/2009 8:47:12 PM)

require tribute/money (aka PRO)

Actually the vast majority of those requiring "tribute" are not pro. Pros are not quiet about their profession and are not on here to try and trick new customers into their clutches. Most looking for tribute are just that, looking for it.

And an option to state you are a pro or interested in tribute would only be valid if there was some check that they used it. Its no more trustworthy than assuming a 97 lb 7 ft tall slave girl in indonesia really wants to obey my every whim.




MsLadySue -> RE: An idea for the Collarme.com community (8/22/2009 8:54:56 PM)

Why not do a profile search using the term "tribute" then hide all the ones that come up? End of having to see them.




fluffypet61 -> RE: An idea for the Collarme.com community (8/22/2009 9:00:21 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: MadameMarque

Yes, shame on you for discouraging someone trying to devise a practical solution to what for many, is a problem.  It is their time and their effort being wasted, and life is short, is it not?  Not to mention the unpleasant experience of contacting people for a very personal, emotionally charged reason, only to find that they've misrepresented themselves and you just represent money signs $$$ in their eyes. 
 
Is it too much for you to imagine, that some people find that disheartening, after the 12th or the 20th time?  Maybe if your own toes aren't being stepped on, you don't consider it to be a problem.
 

People who misrepresent themselves now will continue to misrepresent themselves no matter what "practical solutions" are put in place.




PrimaFacie -> RE: An idea for the Collarme.com community (8/22/2009 9:01:49 PM)

I would endorse the lifestyle/pro designations for women as long as men are required to designate themselves as either sincere or online wanker.




MadameMarque -> RE: An idea for the Collarme.com community (8/22/2009 9:09:10 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: fluffypet61

People who misrepresent themselves now will continue to misrepresent themselves no matter what "practical solutions" are put in place.


On the other hand, those who are not seeking money will probably be pleased to check the other alternative ("Lifestyle," or whatever it would be called).  That would allow one to search for those who are seeking a personal connection.




MadameMarque -> RE: An idea for the Collarme.com community (8/22/2009 9:19:24 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: PrimaFacie

I would endorse the lifestyle/pro designations for women as long as men are required to designate themselves as either sincere or online wanker.


:D  Start a thread - I'll vote!  While I'm not relying on most wankers to know which box to check, it will give one a bit of moral support, to see it on the search terms.




TurboJugend -> RE: An idea for the Collarme.com community (8/23/2009 3:38:26 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: IrishMist

I have the perfect solution.

You write to someone.
They write back saying that you have to 'pay tribute' to continue the conversation.
You hit delete mail, block sender button.

Problem solved.

Oh wait.

That' won't work. Too much time and effort involved. I forgot. Shame on me.

[&o]


then we would loose all the nice topics and the discussions about it :(
would feel like murder to do that :P




RapierFugue -> RE: An idea for the Collarme.com community (8/23/2009 3:50:10 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: stella41b

I know this might sound to some people a somewhat unusual idea, but how about accepting the fact that having a profile and being a free member on this site doesn't entitle you to anything more than that?

How about just letting it go and moving on when someone doesn't meet your expectations?


... is the correct answer [:D]

I can't see CM making site changes as every site change costs money, and thus as it's run as a free site, and makes its money from ads, there's no pressure on the operators to change a "winning" formula. If you want bells and whistles I would think they'd have to start charging membership fees in order to fund the extra development costs.

The one thing I'd like to see would be a time-delay on being able to send messages from time of setting up an account. This would help to reduce the huge number of "I want master, I ruv you rong time, just send monies!" fakes from Africa and elsewhere, as they can't usually be arsed to wait in order to send messages - I notice CM has more of these than anywhere else I've seen (where such delays are used), but it wouldn't stop me from using the site, it its got to the point where even the better ones can be spotted a mile off, so on second thoughts forget I spoke [:D]




SassyBird -> RE: An idea for the Collarme.com community (8/23/2009 4:00:04 AM)

I voted "Option for lifestyle or pro users". I don't see why people are so afraid of change, and dead set on sticking to a concept so many are obviously not happy about. If it doesn't work it doesn't work, but nothing ventured is nothing gained.




RapierFugue -> RE: An idea for the Collarme.com community (8/23/2009 4:15:11 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: FullCircle

It won't make a difference one way or another, why would a pro restrict the number of eyes looking at their profile and how would you know a pro was worth the expense just because they select the category pro?

People will end up with two profiles and they'll say with one 'oh I love being here for the interaction bla bla bla etc. more bla.' then they'll say 'by the way I am also a prothingey here is my pro profile in case you are interested.'

It's nice to be upfront about it but how often is 'tribute required' half way down the profile page rather than right at the top?


I think there's another potential problem with the proposed system, but being a dom myself I'd need male subs to confirm it ...

My guess would be that genuine "pro" Dommes aren't the problem, so much as scammers who are pretending to be Dommes (often pretending to be female, for that matter), in order to extract money from the unwary. A genuine pro Domme probably won't mind labelling themselves as such in a changed site, but I'm not at all sure it would cut down on the number of scammers, who would just say they weren't pro, but would eventually demand a "tribute" to "show you are genuine" (that's usually the phrase used isn't it?), therefore is it worth making the change?

I'd be interested to hear replies from male subs as to whether my guess holds any water, or whether I'm just talking crap - try to be gentle though chaps, eh? I'm a sensitive sort [:D]

PS: I've just thought about it, and I'm not sure how a male sub would know from the above whether they were dealing with a genuine "pro" or a scammer, so maybe it's un-provable anyway [:D]





RapierFugue -> RE: An idea for the Collarme.com community (8/23/2009 4:26:43 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: SassyBird

I voted "Option for lifestyle or pro users". I don't see why people are so afraid of change, and dead set on sticking to a concept so many are obviously not happy about. If it doesn't work it doesn't work, but nothing ventured is nothing gained.


In my case it's got fuck-all to do with being "afraid of change" and everything to do with knowing how much site changes cost, and not wanting this site to end up as a pay-site. Once you start tinkering with this and that you open the floodgates to changes here, there and everywhere, and every change on a large-scale site costs money to design, build, test and deploy.

I'm not anti- the idea, you understand, I'm just not pro-it enough to care one way or the other. I frequently get messaged by scammers posing as subs, but all I do is block them as soon as it's clear what they're up to. I don't see why everyone else can't do the same.

Out of interest, what was the last major site change of this kind that was implemented by CM, and when? I've been a member for a while and I can't recall the functionality (outside of the ad provision, which isn't strictly speaking a functional change from the user's POV) changing all that much over time. Anyone know?




subtlebutterfly -> RE: An idea for the Collarme.com community (8/23/2009 5:28:22 AM)

I did vote for option for lifestyle/pro however then there would be another problem. Some pro's are also looking for submissives for themselves along with looking for clients. If they had to choose being a pro they'd be forced to have 2 profiles..n really that just takes time n effort.
However, I'd prefer seeing more checkboxes in the search criteria (like when picking your interests!) rather than having to pick one from a list..but that's anotha thing[:D]




stella41b -> RE: An idea for the Collarme.com community (8/23/2009 5:46:34 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: SassyBird

I don't see why people are so afraid of change,



It's got nothing to do with being afraid of change but by being happy with the way things are.


quote:

ORIGINAL: SassyBird

and dead set on sticking to a concept so many are obviously not happy about.



Oh right, so what? The mods are going out kidnapping people and forcing them to set up accounts on CM? At gunpoint perhaps?

Collarme is not the only site on the Internet, there are others, nobody is forcing anyone to be here.

You will never make everyone completely happy.


quote:

ORIGINAL: SassyBird

If it doesn't work it doesn't work, but nothing ventured is nothing gained.


If what doesn't work? This site? Well I've made contact with people and met them, and I know so many other people have, so I would assume that on this basis this site works quite well.

As far as I'm aware the only people who are unhappy are the ones who are logging on and not finding immediately what they want when and where they want it.

How about some of these people waking up to reality and modifying their expectations to match it? How about accepting what is as opposed to going on about what should be?




RapierFugue -> RE: An idea for the Collarme.com community (8/23/2009 6:06:54 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: subtlebutterfly

I did vote for option for lifestyle/pro however then there would be another problem. Some pro's are also looking for submissives for themselves along with looking for clients. If they had to choose being a pro they'd be forced to have 2 profiles..n really that just takes time n effort.



Good point. Doesn't apply to me, mind, but as a matter of principle I'm against anything that takes time and effort and isn't fun.

quote:

ORIGINAL: subtlebutterfly

However, I'd prefer seeing more checkboxes in the search criteria (like when picking your interests!) rather than having to pick one from a list..but that's anotha thing[:D]



I've seen the way alt does it and, while it seems somewhat interesting, surely (if you've got a very specific set of criteria, and you wouldn't want a complex search without it would you?) it must be pretty depressing to put 10,000 criteria in, find there's one person that matches you on planet earth, but they're already taken, or live 5,000 miles away [:D]




subtlebutterfly -> RE: An idea for the Collarme.com community (8/23/2009 6:14:09 AM)

ha! yea..but like bein a lesbian you can only like either bisexuals ooor lesbians and if you're bisexual you can only be lookin for either men or females n either bissexuals or lesbians and yanno then ya gotta pick da "all" and then all da straight bastirds get in your way[:D]

but yup too many options can be a pain in da ass!

Simple is definitely the best way to go![:D]




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