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Esinn -> RE: Government run health care? (8/24/2009 10:42:30 AM)
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ORIGINAL: Mercnbeth
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That's interesting because all the quotes I have seen from dealership owners, except this one, have only complained that the program should last longer. How many more would make it representative of government involvement not solving the problem?
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An unanswered question is whether or not the program released pent-up desires for new cars or did it just move up purchases that would have come later. If the first is true the car dealers will probably be able to whether the cash flow problems. If the later is true there is more trouble on the horizon.
In Stewart’s words, “Did we just borrow business from the future?”
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The title to the couple's slightly damaged old van said it was a "salvage" vehicle, closer to junker than clunker. That difference sunk the deal. The dealership, Dimas explained, had already sealed about 300 clunker-deals but has been reimbursed by the program for only a fraction of them so far. As a result, the dealerships was shying away from "salvage" titled vehicles. "I wish I had known that," Phillip Liao said.
THREE? (Paperwork for an estimated 625 transactions crashed the government's computer. Think they'll do better with 46 Million new insureds to track? quote:
"The government's computer system crashed yesterday," said Rick Szmigiel, sales manager at Ferndale Honda just north of Detroit. "The paperwork is going through the system, but we are seeing some rejections," he said. The store did 22 clunker deals since July.
The Transportation Department's cars.gov Web site for dealers was down for at least an hour Friday afternoon, preventing dealers from filing rebate claims as the four-week program heads into its final days.
FOUR? (From the consumer's side) quote:
Causey’s trade, it turns out, didn’t qualify for a rebate based on the cash-for-clunkers’ mileage requirements. Though she’d signed all the papers, swapped the tags and updated her insurance policy, Causey was called back to the dealership shortly afterward and presented with two options: either accept a new contract — one that would grant $1,000 for the old Buick and require that she pay back the $2,500 difference — or give up the truck. Thinking a deal’s a deal, Causey and her husband chose a third route: they stormed out, and hired a lawyer instead.
“I didn’t even look at the new paperwork,” the 68-year-old Causey said in a telephone interview Friday. “I’d signed a contract. We walked off with the contract thinking we owned a truck.”
As the Obama administration begins winding down the $3 billion cash for clunkers program, similar stories of consumer frustration are popping up nationwide. While a great deal of ink has been used to chronicle the trials of the auto dealers — many of whom have become rankled by the slow pace of federal reimbursement — much less has gone to point out that there are consumers out there feeling roughed up as well.
FIVE? Representing an entire State worth of auto dealers.
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The Virginia Automobile Dealers Association reported late last week that about 25% of its member dealerships had already dropped out of the program because of uncertainty over getting paid for their deals.
Let me know if you want more, there were countless sources from dealers and customers. If you're surprised about this, maybe you should consider reading references and sources that you can sing along with the message.
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Because we all know the health insurance companies are so benevolent and caring?
A similarly irrelevant reply would be; because we all know the government is efficient and functioning.
It would take 7 and a shot of Quervo 1800 for me.
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