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wildflower26 -> rule lapses in Dom's absence (8/23/2009 11:33:21 PM)

I'm in a fairly new D/s relationship. I am a slave on lease right now.
Anyway, my Dom goes on business trips fairly often, and very soon into this relationship, he left for one for four days. He has set several rules that are designed to help me out in my life -- rules regarding things like eating, going to sleep at reasonable times, pretty reasonable stuff.
When he left for the trip, a young part of me was afraid he wouldn't come back. That, particularly with this being such a new relationship, he may use his time away to reconsider the relationship.
Following these rules deeply bonds the little girl side of me to the Dom, and I was scared to follow them with him gone for that reason.
He's back from his trip and worried about what my abandonment fears might mean for the relationship and if this is something we can both handle -- my trauma history (I am in therapy) and my kid side/s.
The plan as of now is to keep talking this through. He also plans to deliver some fairly severe punishment to keep this from happening in future.

I need to find ways to cope with the lostness I feel when he's gone for days and find ways to keep things on track and to keep a sense of trust and of his presence. I highly suspect those things will come with more time in the relationship.
Pretty hungry for thoughts on all this....enlighten a new slave/leasee?





Eivarden -> RE: rule lapses in Dom's absence (8/24/2009 1:02:40 AM)

Hm, I don't fully have a great grasp on things, like how long you have been together, you say new, but it almost sounds a bit longer than what I would consider "new".

If you really haven't been together long. I would assume things can get better by continuing to talk and being honest.

Let him know when you get this way, but also make sure he knows you still want to overcome this. Make sure he knows it's not "personal" towards him.

You'll probably get your punishment sessions because of it, but deep down, that should be enough... (maybe)

Now I can't give a number, but after so long, and the trust issue continues, and both of you are really displeased, I could only suggest professional help.

But without trust, it's either near impossible, or impossible to keep your relationship together.

I also don't know just how extreme the insecurity is. I can only imagine it being "slightly" there.

So yeah, talk it out, remain honest, if things don't work, they don't, but if he's willing to work through it with you, I'm sure you two can.





eyesopened -> RE: rule lapses in Dom's absence (8/24/2009 5:15:18 AM)

Your abandonment issues are not specific to D/s.  They would exist regardless of the type of relationship.  Understand that first.

I didn't even recognize my own abandonment issues.  I kinda knew that I was sabotaging my relationships, vanilla or otherwise.  I kinda knew I was most comfortable in non-committal relationships.

What turned things around for me and made me most ready for the relationship I am now in was when I changed my internal dialogue from thinking "What if this doesn't work?  What if he leaves for good?  What if he breaks up with me?"  to thinking "What if this works!  What if we are together for good!  What if we have the rest of our lives together!"




DarkSteven -> RE: rule lapses in Dom's absence (8/24/2009 5:17:42 AM)

widlflower, if the young part of you has had abandonment issues before, then simply the pattern of leaving/returning will make a statement and will build trust over time.

Is there some way he could keep in contact while gone?  Phone calls, texts?




cpK69 -> RE: rule lapses in Dom's absence (8/24/2009 5:59:40 AM)

 
Just some thoughts; ask yourself:
 
What does abandonment mean to me?
 
What is the worst that can happen if he doesn’t come back?
 
What will happen if I continue to not follow his rules?
 
Who is in control when I am feeling ‘lostness’?


quote:

ORIGINAL: wildflower26

Following these rules deeply bonds the little girl side of me to the Dom, and I was scared to follow them with him gone for that reason.


Who is 'I' in the above sentence?

Kim




MaitreAZ -> RE: rule lapses in Dom's absence (8/24/2009 6:16:52 AM)

Call me a hopeless romantic but I find that following Master's rules, especially in his absence, keeps his presence with me the entire time he is gone... a constant reminder that he has considered my submission into his everyday life. Perhaps he takes more confidence in your submission simply because you continue to behave while he is away.

As for the abandonment - You cannot control what happens to the future of your relationship in regards to how and when it ends... but you CAN control how you enjoy it while it lasts. To be held for a day is better than to be afraid for a lifetime. Savor the moments where you give yourself over to him with wreckless abandon, and know that if the day were to come when he is no longer yours, then your heartache will be a final act of servitude for him.

Fear of abandonment is a learned response from past life lessons. Your Dom is your new teacher... learn new responses.
~Doux~ 





whiteslavebitch -> RE: rule lapses in Dom's absence (8/24/2009 3:45:29 PM)

quote:

Fear of abandonment is a learned response from past life lessons. Your Dom is your new teacher... learn new responses.
~Doux~


Having had to deal with my own (many) issues, this statement fairly well states how I have had to learn to deal with things.

On occasion, I will still after 4 years find myself responding in my old ways, and I have to give myself a mental slap to clear my head.

I have to remind myself that I am in my first healthy relationship, and I don't need to fight the demons of my past any longer. MasterK has earned my trust like no one else ever did, and he earned it for a reason.




DesFIP -> RE: rule lapses in Dom's absence (8/24/2009 4:00:23 PM)

Instead of setting rules for you to do on your own, have the tasks be centered on him. Two emails a day, bake and freeze his favorite cookies for his return. Find pic of three toys you would like him to use on you. Write a fantasy story of him and you, send to him but also tell him if this is something you just want to fantasize about or would like to come true.




porcelaine -> RE: rule lapses in Dom's absence (8/24/2009 6:02:22 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: wildflower26

I need to find ways to cope with the lostness I feel when he's gone for days and find ways to keep things on track and to keep a sense of trust and of his presence. I highly suspect those things will come with more time in the relationship.
Pretty hungry for thoughts on all this....enlighten a new slave/leasee?



developing a pattern of continuity and dependability is important when these fears exist. his pattern of leaving is a trigger, but you must remind yourself that although he leaves he also returns as promised. you can allow the reactions and the negative consequences of his travel to become a factor in your lives, or view this as an opportunity to grow and hopefully heal in the process.

i don't know if centering your activities on him will make you feel better at this point. before you can truly take care of another and give your all you must be willing to care for yourself. perhaps when he is gone there's an opportunity to be both obedient and a little indulgent. do something nice for yourself. meet with friends, engage in some pampering, but most of all don't sit alone dwelling on the fact he isn't there. keeping your mind actively engaged and focused on positive thoughts and the pleasures to come when he returns.

when the feelings surface don't feed them by wallowing and allowing the doldrums to fester. get it out. exercise, write, do whatever is necessary to purge and then let it go and carry on with your day. i wish you luck.

porcelaine




wildflower26 -> RE: rule lapses in Dom's absence (8/26/2009 12:25:17 AM)

just an update -- we met in person for the first time since he returned from the trip, and the meeting went quite well. i think that seeing that he came back will be very helpful to me in future.
things seem on track. thanks for the replies. i took some things in and was able to do further processing. :)





DarkSteven -> RE: rule lapses in Dom's absence (8/26/2009 6:39:33 AM)

OP, I'm glad to hear that things are going well again.




MasterSlaveLA -> RE: rule lapses in Dom's absence (8/26/2009 8:15:31 AM)

Your "Dom" is not qualified to address these issues with you; but your Therapist is.  My suggestion is to have your Dom PARTICIPATE in your therapy and not lead you in it (i.e., maybe attending some sessions with you and/or working on the things your Therapist suggests) as he is no more qualified to do so (unless this is his profession) than a Salesman trying to do the job of a Mechanic.  Too many in this whacky world of BDSM think their Dom/me has all the answers.  They don't, and any GOOD Dom/me knows this. Primum non nocere... First do no harm.





maia09 -> RE: rule lapses in Dom's absence (8/27/2009 1:36:00 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: wildflower26

I'm in a fairly new D/s relationship. I am a slave on lease right now.
Anyway, my Dom goes on business trips fairly often, and very soon into this relationship, he left for one for four days. He has set several rules that are designed to help me out in my life -- rules regarding things like eating, going to sleep at reasonable times, pretty reasonable stuff.
When he left for the trip, a young part of me was afraid he wouldn't come back. That, particularly with this being such a new relationship, he may use his time away to reconsider the relationship.
Following these rules deeply bonds the little girl side of me to the Dom, and I was scared to follow them with him gone for that reason.
He's back from his trip and worried about what my abandonment fears might mean for the relationship and if this is something we can both handle -- my trauma history (I am in therapy) and my kid side/s.
The plan as of now is to keep talking this through. He also plans to deliver some fairly severe punishment to keep this from happening in future.

I need to find ways to cope with the lostness I feel when he's gone for days and find ways to keep things on track and to keep a sense of trust and of his presence. I highly suspect those things will come with more time in the relationship.
Pretty hungry for thoughts on all this....enlighten a new slave/leasee?




The "lostness" as you describe it, imho, simply amounts to you wanting FROM him, rather than contributing TO him. You've termed yourself a slave. i can only relate to my own understanding of that word. To me a slave is one who serves the Owner, who seeks ways to be useful and make his life easier, not someone who craves his attention all the time. Now, you are new both to the lifestyle and one another. But i agree, your abandonment issues are not new and they're something to stand face to face with. Your feelings are your responsibility not your Owners. Fear is something we all have to face regardless of its type or apparent reason. In all honesty i don't know what will be accomplished with punishment, as this is how you feel, not something you've done to disobey - or did your fear cause you to disobey him? Oh and btw, i have no idea what this leasee thing is. Typically a lease warrents a specific amount of time. Has that been provided? Yes, communication is critical. However, i also think one needs to understand that there are things that are the slave's responsibility and things that are the Master's responsibility.

In our relationship i am not with Master from Sunday evening through to Friday evening. So, in essence i am with Him for weekends, holidays, vacation etc. When away from Him i things to do and develop to keep myself an interesting and useful asset to Him, not someone who's shivering because of what He may or may not do, think or not think. If nothing else a slave with a healthy concept of the assets she offers is valuable to an Owner. One who looks to the Owner to provide what they need and want all the time becomes only another chore for them to handle.

i attempted to look at your profile and found none. i have no idea how old you are. But in any event, if you desire to be a slave, i recommend thinking carefully about what that means and what it entails realistically. It's an extremely rewarding life, but not always easy. Sometimes the best service a slave can provide is to wait for the Master's return in the state of contentment. Hope this helps.




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