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dixiedumpling -> On growing older (8/26/2004 2:43:04 PM)

I'm being stalked by menopause. I'm 48 and I think my mother was about this age when she had a hysterectomy. However, she had fibroid tumors, like her mother, and was bleeding uncontrollably. That hasn't happened to me, so far. I'm just interested in comments from other women who have gone through it or in the process of it.

Lately, I've been in a strange mood. Anxious, wired, can't sleep. Been bitten by the honesty bug and, apparently, trying to either run off or piss off everyone I know. My hair is getting thin. Haven't been hungry and have lost some weight (not that it will be missed!).

Anybody else experience this with perimenopause? Or am I just a bitch by nature?




proudsub -> RE: On growing older (8/26/2004 4:12:06 PM)

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I'm just interested in comments from other women who have gone through it or in the process of it.


It sucks[:'(]

That said, it seems like it will never end--the moodiness and hot flashes especially. On the bright side--my periods ended over a year ago-makes sex a lot easier[;)] Also my sex drive is as strong as ever, maybe stronger than when i was younger, probably because it's all so much more fun and interesting now, and the kids are out of the house.[:D]

I never took any hormone replacements but black cohosh (an inexpensive herb) does help with the hot flashes and night sweats. Good luck with it dixie.




jillwfsub4blkdom -> RE: On growing older (8/27/2004 7:15:11 AM)

this may sound stupid but how do you know you are going through it? i am 44 and starting to worry.




dixiedumpling -> RE: On growing older (8/27/2004 8:39:02 AM)

The onset varies from woman to woman, but the average age in the USA is 51. A woman is not "officially" in menopause until she hasn't had a period for a year. Until then, changes are said to be perimenopause. My periods, usually like clockwork, have begun to be erratic. I usually have a 28 to 31 day cycle. I've had a 75 day cycle (THAT was fun! toting around food for fred every where I went for 2 months, JUST IN CASE!) this year, as well as a 24 day cycle. I get hot at night. Unbearablely so. I wake up and my hair and pillow are wet from sweat, my body is soaked. Have to get up and try to get cooled off. Grumpy doesn't begin to describe how I feel sometimes. Mean as a snake? Maybe. Emotional. Weeping over imagined slights and silly stuff that I won't list here.

I complained about it to the doctor a couple of years ago and he did a blood test that checked hormone levels and they were normal. I'm hoping to get through this without HRT (hormone replacement therapy) or surgery.

I'm just looking for other women's experiences to see if I fit into the "normal" segment.




proudsub -> RE: On growing older (8/27/2004 9:51:38 AM)

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this may sound stupid but how do you know you are going through it? i am 44 and starting to worry.


The first signs for me were irregular periods, some very light, some very heavy, sometimes every 2 weeks, sometimes nothing for several months, just never knew what to expect. Also hot flashes and night sweats are a sure sign, grrrrr. another sign is crying for no reason, the slightest thing would set me off.




MistressDREAD -> RE: On growing older (8/28/2004 11:41:52 PM)

* raises My hand up towards dixie*
Im guilty and slapped down menophause
as it tried to sneek up on Me several times.
That Bitch tho just wont stay down and really
pisses Me off, of course a moment later Im
a mud puddle and in the next moment have
the strenth of ten Men and out mowin the lawn.
at 45 I had My first bout with acne and oily face.
[ wasent there suppose to be a whole slew of
boys that had fallen for Me during this episode
of puberty gone arye?]oh and dont forget the
bran new beard and mustash [which I personally
like but I am a kinkie freak] and having to wash
your bed linens daily because they have that
just got outta the shower and layed on the bed
s0ppin wet when all you did was sweat the things
to their wetness feel. Your hair starts to come out
as you run your hand thru it in glumps instead of
strands.your favorite chocolate bar, spagetti, soda,
and donuts have a funkie taste to them and are the
most un apeasing things that you now DONT want.
oHH dont forget the splotchie skin that appears over
night.Just sum things I suffer off the top of My wore
down head......JMO




dixiedumpling -> RE: On growing older (8/29/2004 2:00:01 AM)

Gee whiz. This is NOT encouraging. I think I have worse acne now than I did as a teenager. I used to think when I got out of my teens, I'd grow out of it. BUT, nooooooooooo, it's worse. Maybe the other side of menopause will give me a clear complexion. Something to look forward to? And I've lost my sweet tooth. Sweet things are NEVER satisfying. Especially chocolate. I do a little baking for other folks and have to hope it really does taste ok because it sure doesn't to me!




LadyShoshin -> RE: On growing older (8/29/2004 5:45:18 AM)

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ORIGINAL: jillwfsub4blkdom

this may sound stupid but how do you know you are going through it? i am 44 and starting to worry.

Go see your doctor and ask to have your hormone levels checked. Your doctor can tell you. I wouldn't be worried, it is a time in your life when you become free of childrearing, you can toss out all the old underwear you kept for "that time of the month" and you can look at the direction your life has been taking and make some positive changes.




LadyShoshin -> RE: On growing older (8/29/2004 5:54:40 AM)

With thanks and apologies to the author of the original poem Warning - When I Am an Old Woman I Shall Wear Purple by Jenny Joseph

Warning - When I am an old woman I shall wear PVC

When I am an old woman I shall wear PVC and leather, with a thong that disappears up the crack of my large ass cheeks

I shall spend my pension on vampire gloves, floggers and satin hoods and say we have no money for gasoline.

I shall sit on subbies when I am tired and gobble up the midnight finger food buffets at play parties and loudly proclaim "oh f**k" is NOT a safeword


I will run my cane over subbie butts and make up for the boring vanilla life of my youth.


I shall slap my crop against my bulging thigh high leather boots with the sensible heels and curse at my stay ups that never will.


I can beat the asses of aging, paunchy, balding men and call them "boy" as I make them wince, hoarding clothespins and prickly things in a box.


The world says we must wear clothes that cover us, pay our rent instead of buy that spanking bench, we must not lead subbies on a leash in the street and set a good example for the newbies.


We must not show our friends how much we care by the welts we leave on their backs & behinds.


I gave up such vanilla beliefs long ago, because I am already old & wear PVC & leather.


Sounds humorous, but as a member of the baby boom generation, then the hippie generation, I have to accept the fact that I am growing older.


My lifestyle is generally seen as one meant for the young and limber, those with hard bodies and creak free joints. Yet to look around at a fetish or play party, you will see that many of those in leather, lace, PVC & rubber are in their 30s and above. The stereotype is born in the media and the minds that use the media as a fantasy jumping off point.


As our population ages and learns more about how to stay active far into their "golden" years, the stereotype has to shift to allow for the 19 year old and the 90 year old to both enjoy BDSM in their own way.


Western civilization has much to learn about aging and how not to dismiss the elders of the community. Many cultures revere the elderly and take care of them as they are the repositories of the wisdom of those peoples. Some indigenous North American cultures hold the belief that the very young and very old are closest to Creator as the one has just come from Creator & the other is on their way to meet Creator.

I know there are those who consider me a ridiculous figure in my fet wear, but don't pass judgment on me that I am trying to recapture my youth, I hated my youth. I wouldn't go back for all the tea in China. What I am doing is wearing what makes me feel good about me, what I feel comfortable in, I am acting in a manner that is my own. I may be 54, but the girl of 14, 18, 25 & 30 is still inside this old hide and having a whale of a time at parties. I am having more fun now than I ever did in my teens or twenties.

Because the spiritual path I have chosen is a pagan one, I am looking forward to what is called my croning. As a pagan, I see 3 stages in a woman's life, maiden, mother, crone.


The Maiden aspect represents enchantment, expansion, the female principle, the promise of new beginnings, youth, excitement, and erotic carefree aura. She is innocent in ways, but also an enchantress who recognizes the power of her sexuality. The Mother is ripeness, fertility, fulfillment, stability, and power.


The Mother is ripe, full breasted, at the peak of her womanly powers. She is the one who tenderly and lovingly rocks the baby, but she is also the lioness who hunts to feed her offspring and will fight to the death to protect them.(my note, you don't have to have children to possess Mother qualities)


The Crone is wisdom, and compassion. She is old in age, experience, accumulated wisdom and death. She is the gateway to Death, and the guide to Rebirth.
(copyright MistyMoon)


During the time I was with a native healing circle I went through a ceremony usually done at the onset of menses to celebrate the passage from child to woman, from maiden to mother. Rather than seeing generational changes as something to be feared, I embrace them and treasure what each brings. With the ending of my menses & passing from my child bearing years I want to celebrate the freedom that brings. Therefore I look forward to my croning ceremony with excitement.


We come to BDSM at different ages, some young, some in mid life and some late in life, but we should not be as concerned about chronological age or body image as much as what life's experiences have taught each person around us.


As a crone, freed from family responsibilities I now have the opportunity to be whom & what I want to be. I can fulfill my dream of being a choreographer as I work a sub on the cross or as I myself dance under the lash of a trusted friend. When you see me in my PVC & leather, remember to smile, because someday that may be you.


About the author- Trained in social services and career development Lady Shoshin is now on leave from work and lives about an hour west of Toronto. Being 54 years young, she consider herself an aging hippie with "Peter Pan Syndrome". During her BDSM training, she had a taste of many of the skills and arts BDSM offers. She is currently unattached, a gramma and very proud of her family. Both of her adult children participate privately in BDSM.




Sundew02 -> RE: On growing older (8/29/2004 9:47:30 AM)

Although they can happen at anytime, stress triggers many hot flashes. The reason the night sweats are so obvious is that you are not moving around and therefore the sweat pools (less evaporation). I bluntly refused hormone replacement as it has been proven to increase risk of developing cancer and if you do develop cancer the hormone replacement makes it grow much faster. There are a number of herbs that "help" the symptoms, but the best thing I found was relaxation exercises and summer wt clothes all year round. In the winter I wore a sweater of jacket over them, so that when the power surge came I could remove it and still be fairly comfortable. Drink lots of water and juice this will help keep you hydrated. Look on the positive side. Not having to as you put it feed fred will be an expense gone from your budget, you can go and do whatever be naked for play without worrying will I leak. Life is good, this is just a teeny bump in the road. Don't let a change control you. Sundew




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