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Rhodes85 -> RE: Is there a very fine line? (8/27/2009 10:41:56 PM)
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'Do you know very many pro dommes? Most of the ones I knew in San Francisco were major contributors to the BDSM community. The stereotyped image of the "hooker with a whip" who isn't kinky but just catering to a client's fetishes does exist in real life, but it's rarer than you might think. '
Yes I know a couple of them in Truro and Halifax. I am in no way disputing their contributions to the BDSM or any other community. I did not refer to anyone as a 'hooker with a whip' although I might point out that the concept of the hooker with a whip as you put it, would technically be prostitution. Pro domination borders on it as it is. That being said, go to vegas, or even this website, and then tell me how rare it is.
'You're making statements of fact without evidence, which isn't a good idea. I am aware of a number of studies that explore the demographics of the BDSM community, and absolutely none of them suggest that there is a significant segment of our population - including the commercial end of it - that is diagnosable as sociopathic. That is a pretty serious diagnosis. Do you even know what a sociopath is? '
Yes actually I do know several sociopaths. One of my ex's, my aunt, one of my friends supposed best friend, my lead programmer. Among others. I could tell you stories about them that would make you turn white. Generally a sociopath is a person who is pathologically remorseless and sees people only in so far as how they can use them. They do not show remorse or compassion for their actions, are usually expert manipluators and have no problem exploiting people for their own gain. Many also show psycopathic traits. Incidently I was not referring to members of the bdsm community as sociopaths, I was referring to those that exploit it to get money under the guise of bdsm activities. ie: financial dommes as sociopathic.
I am not making statements without evidence. Before I even go any further here I would like to point out that there is a HUGE difference between a pro domme and a financial domme. I financial domme is it it for nothing more than money and use bdsm as a way to get it. Don't believe me? Look up a few domme profiles here. Things like 'I want to rape your wallet' and 'I want to use you as a cash cow' stand out in obvious contrast to the majority of pro domme accounts which, while they take money for their services, those services are actually bdsm, related, rather than getting some idiot to pay them to see her on cam for a few minutes.
'You're also assuming that anyone who is into "financial domination" or willing to play in this field is otherwise unemployable. This certainly may be true in some cases. The field can attract some people because of its lack of necessary qualifications other than having bewbs and a vaj.'
I said nothing of the sort. I said the financial dommes (not referring to pro dommes here) would have something of a rude wakeup call when they started to get to the point where few if any people would be willing to pay them because their looks or age fade. I say this because it IS just the money these people want. Seriously, how many people do you think would continue to pay them for nothing? Common sense says people would move on to younger people that still have their looks or whatever else said people are into. The 'i'm a princess, pay me and i'll laugh at you if you be my piggy bank' doesn't work with a 70 year old as well as it does with a 20 year old. That being said, you say that this is not limited to women being financial dommes.... Would you mind showing me a single male that does that and actually has women pay him to 'use her as a piggy bank'? Not to sound sexist here but I have yet to see such a person anywhere.
'Is a chiropracter, a massage therapist or a doctor worth paying for their services? Do you feel so angry and outraged at the fact that these professionals do charge for their time, energy, attention specialized skills and expensive equipment that you feel the need to sneer at them publicly? Do you take time to nastily denigrate other kinks that consenting adults engage in? If not, why? What's the difference? More to the point, what's got you so angry about the very existence of pros and their clients? No one is forcing you to buy something you do not want, or participate in a kink you do not share. So why do you have this need to be rude and contemptuous about the choices that other people make? '
First, a chiropractor or a massage therapist are actually providing a service. They do not take your money and then call you an idiot or whathave you and laugh at you, like a financial domme does. So that removes the reference to financial dommes here. As for pro dommes - read what I said again: ''if some 'pro domme' tried to tell me she was worth paying for her 'services' or a financial domme tried to tell me she was worth paying for her attention ' What I said was if she came up to me and said she was worth paying for her attention. I was not disparaging the bdsm lifestyle she has chosen. The 'i'm a princess and you aren't worth my time...but i'll put up with you if you pay me' attitude is what I have a problem with. That being said, I consider bdsm to be a lifestyle, and those that use it as a guise to make money - and I am speaking of financial dommes here, to be exploiting that lifestyle for their own gain. If they want to make money, get a real job instead of exploting people online as their 'piggy banks' Pro dommes on the other hand I don't have a problem with, so long as they don't get pushy about it with me or pull the 'princess' routine. Not that I am trying to imply that many pro dommes do that, but there are a few that do.
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