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Caution God At Work - 8/26/2009 10:50:29 PM   
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Governor Charlie Crist of Florida has been sending prayers off to Israel every year…and now he wants to claim responsibility for averting hurricanes. Isn't that just so sweet?

Beliefs in god lead to stupid actions.

Someone else posted about the Jews flying around to have god block the swine flu

Why don't the damn Jews go to space and pray for the whole god damn planet - bastards
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/08/12/world/main5237287.shtml



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RE: Caution God At Work - 8/26/2009 10:54:08 PM   
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Why don't the damn Jews go to space and pray for the whole god damn planet - bastards
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/08/12/world/main5237287.shtml


Because space costs a lot more money than flying a plane... And.. Well... *insert generic "Jews are cheap" joke here*


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RE: Caution God At Work - 8/26/2009 11:26:42 PM   
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Why don't the damn Jews go to space and pray for the whole god damn planet - bastards
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/08/12/world/main5237287.shtml


Because space costs a lot more money than flying a plane... And.. Well... *insert generic "Jews are cheap" joke here*



Well, it works, right?  If prayer was not one of the most effective methods to fight the swine flu they would not be doing it.  After all the bible clearly says all things are possible through faith.

So, even if it cost 10,000,000 to get these Jews to space.  If it saved 10 lives it would be worth it.

No wait a second.  Are you suggesting their faith is misguided?  Jews in a plane will not help the spread of this flu which their god allowed on earth


If this god is real YHVH / Jesus(to christians).  I would much rather rely on it than silly doctors and science to end the swine flu




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RE: Caution God At Work - 8/27/2009 3:59:51 AM   
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If this god is real YHVH / Jesus(to christians).  I would much rather rely on it than silly doctors and science to end the swine flu

Thus far doctors and science have managed to end only the smallpox.

Whereas people in the first millennium were cured by holy water, and whereas the Greeks in his time went to the temple of Apollo to get cured. I sure wish that the temple of Apollo was still functional.

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RE: Caution God At Work - 8/27/2009 6:25:58 AM   
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Whereas people in the first millennium were cured by holy water, and whereas the Greeks in his time went to the temple of Apollo to get cured. I sure wish that the temple of Apollo was still functional.



Well it's no temple of Apollo but you might try this: http://zapatopi.net/afdb/

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RE: Caution God At Work - 8/27/2009 6:51:33 AM   
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Status: offline 		Thank you. Good suggestion. However, I prefer this more advanced model. Neither your suggested hat nor my preference have healing properties, though. So I guess we have to improve on our own methods to cure disease.

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RE: Caution God At Work - 8/27/2009 11:32:29 AM   
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RE: Caution God At Work - 8/27/2009 11:44:26 AM   
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Um.. Jesus and Yahweh aren't the same person and aren't comparable.



Jesus is the Son of Yahweh (God)...well if you are a believer..

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RE: Caution God At Work - 8/27/2009 12:00:35 PM   
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Thus far doctors and science have managed to end only the smallpox.



I know, right?  This is why we need to beg and grovel to our specific religions god through supernatural methods commonly called prayer.  Well, no....  There are more muslims in the world than christians.  So, let us beg and grovel to Allah.  It seems more rational. The more voices who scream the more likely YHVH will be to hear.  Surly as he is a just, loving and all present god he will understand and intervene abolishing the swine flu.

On an off note.  Every serious experiment on prayer($2,000,000 was spent on one over a period of 5 years involving thousands) started with the hypothesis you could scientifically investigate prayer.  The best and greatest minds were always brought in. Then when the results of the study came in - I can imagine the conversations behind closed doors:

"Fuck! FUCK FUCK!  These were not the results we wanted.  We can not bury this study either.  What do we do?  Well, lets just make god off limits off limits to rational understand but suggest you can still understand him".

When the study is done the results are always the same.  Prayer does not work, sometimes it is dangerous.  The conclusion put out from behind locked basement dungeon doors, 'You cant study god'.  I guess it makes him angry?  Such a temperamental fellow.

Science is obviously a creation of the devil


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RE: Caution God At Work - 8/27/2009 12:03:18 PM   
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Thus far doctors and science have managed to end only the smallpox.



I know, right?  This is why we need to beg and grovel to our specific religions god through supernatural methods commonly called prayer.  Well, no....  There are more muslims in the world than christians.  So, let us beg and grovel to Allah.  It seems more rational. The more voices who scream the more likely YHVH will be to hear.  Surly as he is a just, loving and all present god he will understand and intervene abolishing the swine flu.

On an off note.  Every serious experiment on prayer($2,000,000 was spent on one over a period of 5 years involving thousands) started with the hypothesis you could scientifically investigate prayer.  The best and greatest minds were always brought in. Then when the results of the study came in - I can imagine the conversations behind closed doors:

"Fuck! FUCK FUCK!  These were not the results we wanted.  We can not bury this study either.  What do we do?  Well, lets just make god off limits to rational understanding and investigation.  We will still insist you can understand god through that thing called faith - thank god for faith".

When the study is done the results are always the same.  Prayer does not work, sometimes it is dangerous.  The conclusion put out from behind locked basement dungeon doors, 'You cant study god'.  I guess it makes him angry?  Such a temperamental fellow.

Science is obviously a creation of the devil



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RE: Caution God At Work - 8/27/2009 12:03:58 PM   
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Thus far doctors and science have managed to end only the smallpox.



I know, right? 



Has god found a cure for any of the diseases? Common cold, OCD, cancer, drippy nose?

Rev. Ron of the church of jesus christ!!!! what's happenin now?

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RE: Caution God At Work - 8/27/2009 12:06:35 PM   
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Um.. Jesus and Yahweh aren't the same person and aren't comparable.



Jesus is the Son of Yahweh (God)...well if you are a believer..


Modern Christianity accepts this idea, yes. However, they are still not the same... Unless you get into that trinity idea, but even then, that's just within Christianity. That comments is like comparing apples to oranges.


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RE: Caution God At Work - 8/27/2009 12:06:52 PM   
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Thus far doctors and science have managed to end only the smallpox.

Whereas people in the first millennium were cured by holy water, and whereas the Greeks in his time went to the temple of Apollo to get cured. I sure wish that the temple of Apollo was still functional.


What color is your sun?

Or are there multiple suns in your world?

Do the animals talk?



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RE: Caution God At Work - 8/27/2009 1:30:49 PM   
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Um.. Jesus and Yahweh aren't the same person and aren't comparable.



Jesus is the Son of Yahweh (God)...well if you are a believer..


Modern Christianity accepts this idea, yes. However, they are still not the same... Unless you get into that trinity idea, but even then, that's just within Christianity. That comments is like comparing apples to oranges.



Yahweh is the name of God in judeism not?
There for propably also of christianity...
If christianity is not right..what makes you right?

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RE: Caution God At Work - 8/27/2009 2:25:49 PM   
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Thus far doctors and science have managed to end only the smallpox.

Whereas people in the first millennium were cured by holy water, and whereas the Greeks in his time went to the temple of Apollo to get cured. I sure wish that the temple of Apollo was still functional.


What color is your sun?

Or are there multiple suns in your world?

Do the animals talk?

I erred, it wasn't Apollo, but his son. My bad; doesn't happen often. I did a google for what I actually meant. I quote:

"One of the most famous (and well-used) monuments in Corinth was the Asklepieion. This was a sanctuary to the Greek god of healing, Asklepios. Built in the fourth century B.C., this was a place for the sick and maimed to go to be healed. An ill person would go to the Asklepieion and offer a terra cotta figurine. These figurines were usually in the shape of genitalia, heads, eyes, hands, or whatever particular body part was failing. After bathing in the sea and offering honey cakes at the god’s altar, the patient would then be taken to be cleaned in an inner room (an abaton). The patient would then lie down on a mat on the floor and go to sleep, awaiting the god to visit during sleep (often in the form of a snake), and cure the illness".

As for the curative properties of holy water during the first millennium, I think that I read about it in Bede's history of England, which mostly was about England during the first millennium. I may have read a corroboration elsewhere in folklore, but if so, I unfortunately cannot recall where.

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