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Politesub53 -> RE: I was wondering where "See Me" Cindy Sheehan's been (9/3/2009 10:54:58 AM)
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ORIGINAL: Loki45
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ORIGINAL: Politesub53
You still dont get it do you. You tried to make a link between 9/11 and the invasion of Iraq copied below.
I'm afraid it's still *you* that doesn't get it. After the quote you decided to pull out, you blatantly ignored the following:
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Original: Loki45
Not so long as we understand the fact that while he had nothing to do with 9/11, he did in fact support suicide bombers....going so far as to award the families of suicide bombers with large sums of money for their "service."
Also not so long as we all realize what the OP in this thread contained in its link. Such as the following quote from that link:
"She told US peace activists to wake up and protest Obama's escalation of the war in Afghanistan, and complained that despite the president's anti-war stance, US troops remained in Iraq."
As you can see in that quote, "See me Cindy" doesn't distinguish between iraq and afghanistan. Not only that, but she apparently can't follow a simple presidential election. Obama was against the iraq war. But he OPENLY stated in many debates and addresses during his campaign that he was going to finish the fight in afghanistan.
Here, let me highlight some important parts you missed...such as "See Me" Cindy's own comments:
"She told US peace activists to wake up and protest Obama's escalation of the war in Afghanistan, and complained that despite the president's anti-war stance, US troops remained in Iraq."
Which was immediately followed by my last comment (same post, mind you):
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Original: Loki45
As you can see in that quote, "See me Cindy" doesn't distinguish between iraq and afghanistan. Not only that, but she apparently can't follow a simple presidential election. Obama was against the iraq war. But he OPENLY stated in many debates and addresses during his campaign that he was going to finish the fight in afghanistan.
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ORIGINAL: Politesub53
Once you had been pulled up on the fact this wasnt true, you agree Saddam wasnt involved in 9/11 but paid money to families of suicide bombers ( So does Saudi, our so called allies btw ) From how I see it, you were caught in a lie and then moved the goalposts. Next you will be telling us he had weapons of WMD`s, which he hadnt, maybe we just invaded because he had ginger hair.
I really don't care "how you see it." I wasn't caught in anything. I acknowledged freely that I knew saddam had no link to 9/11. However, since "See Me" doesn't distinguish between the two wars in her protest, and since her protest was the subject of the OP, then someone commenting on that OP about "this useless war" should clarify which war they mean, if not both. As no distinction was made, either by "See Me" or anyone else, then one can only go by what's been posted. As such, I responded the way I did, and then had the dialogue with rml that followed. You'll notice in that dialogue I made no claims whatsoever that saddam had a link to 9/11. But so far, no one has disputed that he did, in fact, support terrorists.
If anyone was "caught in a lie," it was "See Me" Cindy who continues to protest Obama despite his campaign promise of "finishing the war against terror in Afghanistan."
Furthermore, since you bring up "why we invaded' iraq, I can only answer that I don't give a shit. The funny thing about all the "controversy" surrounding our invasion was that everyone seemed to agree that he was a bad guy who needed to go. Everyone agreed that he was guilty of attrocities and needed to answer for them. If that's the agreement on the outcome, pardon me if I don't give a rat's ass what excuse we used to invade. He was a bad guy, a war criminal, and now he's dead. Good riddance.
The partial quote I used was in post 40 below
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One more thing, kitten. In response to your continued reference to the "un-neccessary" nature of this war. Since Sept. 11, 2001, the terrorists have been fighting us on *their* turf, as opposed to ours. They've been taking losses as great as, if not greater than our own.
When you continue to call this war 'un-neccessary,' I can't help but wonder. Did you enjoy Sept. 11, 2001? Would you like something like that to occur again? Because, of all the bone-headed things Bush did while he was in charge, the undeniable truth is that the terrorists have an awfully hard time hitting us like that again when they are busy fighting us on their own soil.
I guess you'd prefer to fight them here? Because let me say this as clearly as I can, those people who think it's justifiable to bring down civilian buildings, killing thousands of citizens who are *not* soldiers....they don't want "peace" with us. They never have. They are not going to be convinced one day that "oops, they made a mistake" and we're really "nice people" they want to be friends with. It ain't gonna happen. If you gave those people a nuke tomorrow, we would lose a city the following day. Of that you can be sure.
So *you* can sit there behind the anonymity the internet grants you and claim all you like about this war. The fact is, we would be fighting this war whether we were 'over there' or not. The difference is, if we weren't fighting it 'over there,' we'd be fighting it 'over here.' You're apparently fine with that.
I'm not.
The part you claim i blatantly missed wasnt even in the some post, but in post 43 some 5 odd hours later, after Rule had pulled you up.. Kittin posted the following.
"It's funny. I would have thought that you guys could find a less harmless figure to crystallise your hate upon than a middle-aged lady who lost her son to a useless war."
Since Casey Sheehan was killed in Iraq, its obvious what war she was referring to, At least to those able to keep up. Dont blame me for your own words, or even suggest that what I quoted was somehow the first part of a post some 5 hours later.
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