RE: questions from the curious (Full Version)

All Forums >> [Community Discussions] >> Ask a Master



Message


seababy -> RE: questions from the curious (8/30/2009 5:33:17 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: lally2

well, again, oddly, its none of my business atall, but the fact that he is carrying on like that infront of you is in my view 'wrong' right there.




Yes I thought that. It my well be consensual...between the two of them.
If him beating her and using humiliation is part of their dynamic I think its unacceptable to be doing that in front of a third party that is not giving consent (to witness it)




MissBeautiful2U -> RE: questions from the curious (8/30/2009 8:02:16 PM)

It is really hard to say hon.  Some people are abused even within the context of a bdsm relationship.  Certainly some abusers use bdsm as a cover, but many more are good people who just enjoy pain with their pleasure.  Personally I am a bit of a sadist and love to use floggers, paddles, straps etc.  These things often leave marks.  Sometimes tight ropework will as well.  I am very good about giving aftercare, that is lotions and soothing, but that's my style and it isn't everyone's.

Some people crave control, down to what they wear and how they spend their time.  Others only want a spank and tickle before bed.

There is one boy I know from on here whose friend is now a keyholder.  I am calling the shots mainly, she is helping... she's known him for many years but only learned about this side of him in the last few months.  Now based off of her conversations with me, she either has been involved with bdsm or thought about it in the past or else she is one of a surprising few because she has taken to it like a duck to water.  My point in that is she was shocked that one of his old gf's was his Mistress.... and they were good friends.

The best thing you can do for your friend is be an ear to listen to her.  Try to make yourself available.  Don't judge her or criticize the relationship much if you can help it.  If she is being abused, she will eventually open up about it hopefully... and those who are in that situation need friends who can listen and not judge. 

You can also encourage her to take a good multivitamin.  Some vitamins help with preventing bruises and with healing including B, C , D, E, and K.  This is not medical advice just what I've gotten from a google search before for 'vitamins to prevent bruising'.  If she bruises very easily she might wish to be evaluated by a doctor.  My sister has a blood disorder where she is low on platelets which means she bruises very easily.

One of the mantras of bdsm is safe-sane-and consensual.

For you and your friend's sake, I hope all is well.  If it is not, there is not much you can do besides be a friend no matter what.  Just let her know that you accept her explanation but if things should ever change and cross the line that you will be there for her no matter what.

Hope that helps hon.

Miss Robin




DesFIP -> RE: questions from the curious (8/31/2009 3:48:01 PM)

He may well be a dominant, but he isn't a good one. She may have consented to this but you sure haven't. So by forcing it on you, he could be hoping to drive you away leaving her without resources should she get tired of his erratic temper and behavior. And that is classic abuser technique.

Does he also treat her like this in front of her family, and his?




MarcEsadrian -> RE: questions from the curious (9/1/2009 12:32:08 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: curious112

I'm here trying to get an understanding of this lifestyle. My best friend has been seeing this guy...


No, stop. Other people will fill your head with rubbish and "lifestyle" mythology. The only ones who will ever know what's really going on are the individuals involved; no one can speak on their behalf. Please keep that in mind. Some other very wise comments in this thread to note twice:

"Because of the diversity of this lifestyle you will get a million different answers and NONE of them will be the way THEY do it." — SteelofUtah

"I guess what I'm urging is to do your best to avoid preconcieved notions and look at the reality in front of you." — leadership527

"If she's happy... let her be." — DarkSteven

"We can't answer your questions. We don't know your friend, or her friend." — antipode




CNJDom -> RE: questions from the curious (9/1/2009 4:31:03 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: curious112

I'm here trying to get an understanding of this lifestyle.  My best friend has been seeing this guy (I now learn, her Dom) for about a year and I thought he was great at first.  As time when on he became more aggressive to her and more dominating of an increasing amount of her life.  After seeing an occasional bruise a few times while out shopping I asked her if he was abusing her.  This is when she told me about this lifestyle and that they were a part of it.  It explained much of his behavior and the changes in hers as well as made me feel a little better about her bruises and such.  But again the more I see the more I wonder.  I've gone online I've read what I can and I've figured out that the best way is to talk to people that are in this lifestyle.  There are so many things that I see where I am left wondering if it is part of the lifestyle and their dynamic or if hes using it as an excuse to treat her the way he does.  I have talked her several times about it and gotten every answer from I don't understand because I'm not involved to a silence and refusal to answer that has me just as worried.
I know that this is a legit life and though it isn't one that I think I could do any further than the bedroom I know that people in it have wonderful relationships.  I don't want to sound like I think its terrible, I just really care about my friend and I am concerned that even she is loosing sight of the line between this lifestyle and abuse.  So I really hope you all don't mind me pestering you with questions.
Thank you in advance.



Everyone here has a valid point in their reaction to your post, but I think perhaps you should talk with your friend, and back off the BDSM aspect of their relationship with this particular talk.  Remove the BDSM out of the equation.  As a friend or two-friends who will often talk about their relationships (which is natural), discuss how the relationship is first.  Your friend is willing to discuss to help ease your worries to a certain extent, and by letting her know first that as a friend you care about her not only her well-being physically, but also emotionally as well; will make things a little less stressful for you both.

By taking out the BDSM element, you can both be free to focus on the relationship it's self.  Is she happy?  Is her feelings for him based on love?  Does he treat her wrong?  What's her feelings with this overall, and how does the future look as a couple?... that sort of thing, and these questions will come natural to the level of the friendship dynamic that you both uniquely have with eachother.  That discussion is only what you two can have.  After that discussion, then later you can delve into learning more about what makes this lifestyle-choice the thing for her personally.  You both can hold that conversation where it is a natural extension of your friendship bond, without the worry of one defending something on top of trying to open up.  That is a really hard thing to do:  defend something while trying to condone it.  So far, it seems that this has been the case, though you care and want her to be safe and happy.  All good things!  And these things are acheiveable with the inclusion of BDSM into one's life. 

So just be her friend and be supportive of her like you are trying to do.  Friends don't judge and I'm sure you're not, but keep that in mind if your friend is trying more to defend what she does, instead of sharing with you the joy she dervives from being who she is in this lifestyle.  I hope this helps and of course there is more to this than what is presented here, but it is a good start in making you both at ease in bridging understanding, tolerance, and acceptance between those who choose to include BDSM into their lives and those who don't, as well as those concerned and want to learn more about it.  You are a good friend in my book and thank you for taking the time and effort for asking with your good intentions.





cal1951 -> RE: questions from the curious (9/2/2009 11:33:40 AM)

question, new Dom here, been with a sub lady for almost 1 year. she needs reading material about sub women. on line or off to enhance her abilitys. she is a very good sub but needing to understand more then just playtime. thank you cal




Page: <<   < prev  1 [2]

Valid CSS!




Collarchat.com © 2025
Terms of Service Privacy Policy Spam Policy
6.640625E-02