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Esinn -> RE: Dealing with a psychiatrist (9/3/2009 1:07:30 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: curiouskitten8 I feel safe that I'm gonna get sent to inpatient now :) And when I meet with said professional, I'll try to keep the BDSM conversation to a minimum. My hope is that my dad doesn't have a conversation with the (dr/therapist/whoever it ends up being) before hand, about my "problem." So now my question is, at what point to BDSM become a problem, and what says there's a screw loose and needs to be fixed? I like being submissive, its makes me happy I don't want someone to take that away from me. That is your first problem. This is you we are typing about. Your parents have absolutely no right to be involved, interviewed or review any record which is confidential. Just like the right of a top only begins when given permission by the bottom. However, if you personally view your parents involvement, most likely it is foolish, as a positive it is a different story. It really should not matter or be concern if parents are not part of this part of your life. I have no idea how old you are. But, unless invited when time comes these decisions are only for her. Even if invited I would do my best to talk her out of it(such talks are years off). If your parents have a legal right to be involved then you do not belong on this forum. Now by no means should the top be excluded from family affair if a serious relationship evolves, such talk about BDSM just left at the curb. You have gotten some good advice up until this point. I have provided some good links if you desire to look into the modern understanding about BDSM from a psychologists point of view - there are a lot more out there. Some good journals if you wish to see them. Sadly enough it seems everything from this point will will just be more rehash. The gift you offer is one: strength, courage and pride you offer is absolutely beautiful - if you are being sincere. It is not one to be 'meddled' with. If you are it is one of your core and most personal beliefs. Submission is something I personally do not desire to do not do I believe I could. However, property management of a body, mind and 'soul' is something many lack the drive, motivation and discipline to do. I do not believe in 'absolutes'. However, there is never anything which suggests a screw is loose. As a sub/slave you make a "Choice Decision". It is a choice that is given to you to submit. This is a decision which you are held to. Overcoming obstacles, challenges or motivation to new levels initially thought impossible is the job of the top. Obviously there must be trust, communication, love, empathy - you all the 'nilla terms. But, in this context they are given new meaning 100fold. They are more enjoyable, sensual & erotic. Your job with your Master, Daddy, Top, Mentor - what the hell ever is to grease the screws, tighten them, replace them or remove them. There is no such thing as a loose screw. If you look at it that way you will be screwed. Call me mr.verbosity -E

shadowowl -> RE: Dealing with a psychiatrist (9/3/2009 1:15:30 PM)
A good psychiatrist or pyscholigist should tell you as long as you are happy and it doesn't interfer with your well being there is nothing wrong with it. If it's a problem then there is. it's a good idea to make sure any doctor you see has all the information so they can give you a better prognosis in my opinion. if you are worried about your dad telling the dr about the bdsm maybe one of the issues is your dad and his lack of understanding in that area and that might be something that is importent to discuss with the psychiatrist. But that's just my opinion :)

SweetNika -> RE: Dealing with a psychiatrist (9/3/2009 4:18:57 PM)
I see a therapist on a bi-weekly basis and she knows about my life style choices and my kinks. Although she doensn't consider herself a "kink friendly" therapist she is not judgemental and is able to see the difference between self harming and being flogged ect. She has NEVER once threatened to hospitalize me b/c of my sexual interests. Having been hospitalized in the past it takes alot more to be put on a 3 day court ordered hold than ones sexual desires.

LookieNoNookie -> RE: Dealing with a psychiatrist (9/3/2009 6:50:29 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: curiouskitten8 I saw a list like that a while ago. Unfortunately I don't have much of a choice as to who i see though. Hon....last time I checked...this is still America. (You get to pick....honest).

LadyHibiscus -> RE: Dealing with a psychiatrist (9/3/2009 6:53:18 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LookieNoNookie quote: ORIGINAL: curiouskitten8 I saw a list like that a while ago. Unfortunately I don't have much of a choice as to who i see though. Hon....last time I checked...this is still America. (You get to pick....honest). FR She does? Not if she has an HMO!

curiouskitten8 -> RE: Dealing with a psychiatrist (9/3/2009 7:20:35 PM)
Once again thanks everyone for your responses. I'm doing my research and trying to find the right person, who hopefully will be okay with my dad. And whoever mentioned something about my dad being domineering...its true, no one will ever Dom me like my dad....CREEPY. Maybe I should just grow a pair and move far away, then I wouldn't have to deal with any of this. ahhh life!

SweetNika -> RE: Dealing with a psychiatrist (9/3/2009 7:24:51 PM)
curious kitten, Running from your personal issues NEVER works trust me. I moved 3000 miles to get away from mine only to realize I had no choice but to face them in order to move on to have healthy relationships with others and myself.

curiouskitten8 -> RE: Dealing with a psychiatrist (9/3/2009 7:34:00 PM)
>_<

lostyoungling -> RE: Dealing with a psychiatrist (9/4/2009 8:24:11 AM)
I actually told my doc and therapist I was a masochist while in a funny farm. They didn't even blink. My other therapist that I see normally only wants to discuss it on the level that I pursue things safely and intelligently. As long as I'm not doing stupid stuff none of my docs have ever seemed to care.

Missokyst -> RE: Dealing with a psychiatrist (9/4/2009 8:33:50 AM)
That is the best reason to move in my opinion. Have you considered you may be pursuing an interest in bdsm because it is what you are most familar with, having grown up in a household under an iron rule? If it were me.. and though I am shy I have been very cutting in my remarks to transgressors, I would say "Dad, I am used to being dominated. Now I want to find someone who does it without implying I am wrong for thinking the way I do." quote: ORIGINAL: curiouskitten8 And whoever mentioned something about my dad being domineering...its true, no one will ever Dom me like my dad....CREEPY. Maybe I should just grow a pair and move far away, then I wouldn't have to deal with any of this. ahhh life!

IronBear -> RE: Dealing with a psychiatrist (9/4/2009 10:04:19 AM)
BRAVO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Esinn -> RE: Dealing with a psychiatrist (9/4/2009 10:37:08 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SweetNika I see a therapist on a bi-weekly basis and she knows about my life style choices and my kinks. Although she doensn't consider herself a "kink friendly" therapist she is not judgemental and is able to see the difference between self harming and being flogged ect. She has NEVER once threatened to hospitalize me b/c of my sexual interests. Having been hospitalized in the past it takes alot more to be put on a 3 day court ordered hold than ones sexual desires. There are always many exceptions to the rule. However, this does not mean 'the rules' change.

Esinn -> RE: Dealing with a psychiatrist (9/4/2009 10:50:00 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SweetNika curious kitten, Running from your personal issues NEVER works trust me. I moved 3000 miles to get away from mine only to realize I had no choice but to face them in order to move on to have healthy relationships with others and myself. Tell that BS to a single mother who grew up and is raising her 3 boys in an area described as a ghetto. Tell her that 'running away' from problems will not greatly impact her life. I disagree. I point to my self as evidence. Relocation can do a lot. Friends, family, set, setting, scene, people, life, language....... Everything can instantly change. Problems follow us, so before that objection arises I know I am not a dolt. But a new view out of something as simple as hole in the wall covered by glass can and does change a shit ton. Of course personal motivation and courage are needed not to fall back into the 'same-ole-same-ole'. It is not 'running' it is gathering the courage to know there is better elsewhere. Sometimes just finding that courage within ourselves is meaningful. I have not followed many of kitten's personal posts. Possibly your comments to her are relevant. Still on the grand scale I believe you to be misguided. We really have no clue what the hell the kitten's problems are. So, honestly we can offer no advice if moving can or can not help, such advice is out of line. However, in the context I mentioned we can assume it might [8\|]

fredllfixit -> RE: Dealing with a psychiatrist (9/5/2009 2:07:06 PM)
Ah, the so-called psychiatrists and psychologists! To say I treat them cum salo granis would be an understatement, I use a whole sackfull of the stuff. They are influenced by fashion as one poster has pointed out, just as much as anyone in the rag-trade as an example. They are probably doing the best they can, often under serious work overload, but this of course doesn't help the client. Only time and self-understanding can do this. They operate mentally just the same as the rest of us. Their "world" is the world as they see it. This private world may not be all that close to the truth, as if any of us get close to the Goddess of truth. Daddy Fred.

SweetNika -> RE: Dealing with a psychiatrist (9/5/2009 3:05:52 PM)
Esinn I was not speaking in general terms I was speaking from MY own experiences.. for ME running from my issues did not resolve them. I still was forced to deal with them due to the nature of MY issues.

Prinsexx -> RE: Dealing with a psychiatrist (9/5/2009 3:19:31 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: fredllfixit Ah, the so-called psychiatrists and psychologists! To say I treat them cum salo granis would be an understatement, I use a whole sackfull of the stuff. They are influenced by fashion as one poster has pointed out, just as much as anyone in the rag-trade as an example. They are probably doing the best they can, often under serious work overload, but this of course doesn't help the client. Only time and self-understanding can do this. They operate mentally just the same as the rest of us. Their "world" is the world as they see it. This private world may not be all that close to the truth, as if any of us get close to the Goddess of truth. Daddy Fred. You say: ~ They operate mentally just the same as the rest of us.~ I'm staying out of the debate.

MasterSteve57 -> RE: Dealing with a psychiatrist (9/5/2009 6:20:39 PM)
I read an interesting article about BDSM and mental health care professionals. The DSM manual that psychologists and psychiatrists use to diagnose mental disorders includes a definition of a dominant mental disorder as well as a submissive one. Homosexuality used to also be listed but it was removed from the manual and instead labeled a lifestyle choice. Now there's a raging debate going on about whether or not being a dom or a sub is really a mental illness. I predict that soon both will be given the same exclusion as homosexuality. - SadoDOM55

CalifChick -> RE: Dealing with a psychiatrist (9/5/2009 8:53:26 PM)
Do you have a link to the article or a dx code associated with those disorders? Cali

DearJessicaD -> RE: Dealing with a psychiatrist (9/5/2009 10:49:39 PM)
I did. I had PTSD after getting out of an abusive relationship with a guy who called himself a dom. What she said to me at the end of the first session was that as long as I was not about to hurt anyone else, or hurt myself, she would just strongly ask me to talk to her before I was about to let someone else hurt me. And she told me flat out that while I was still exhibiting signs of PTSD on a regular basis it was not in my best interest to be in a relationship with someone hurting me, even with my consent. I was not put into a mental hospital. It wasn't even brought up.

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