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"So you think you can..." - 9/2/2009 10:18:45 AM   
Mercnbeth


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Didn't want to hijack the "slave Olympics" thread but beth and I enjoyed a good laugh this morning after 'TIVO' watching the latest 'reality' show train wreck; "More To Love". I watch, non-consensually, for amusement. For instance, whether its deliberate or not, EVERY time they show these woman together socializing they are ALWAYS eating, and never a salad. It's always waffles with whipped cream, or deep fried Twinkies or something like that. Never seen one, but similarly do any of the model reality shows show them constantly putting their fingers down their throats to induce vomiting?

Anyway, for those folks lucky enough to have never seen the show; a 6'3" +300 pound bachelor, from beth's home town by the way, represents he doesn't care about looks, particularly weight, and brought in 20 plus sized woman who are 'competing' with each other to 'win' his love and affection. Now, about the saddest thing going is the commentary. Some represented they never have been on a date. Now after a life of private rejection all but one ultimately will experience public rejection. Personally, I think after being rejected the parting gift should either be a opportunity to be on the 'Biggest Loser' show or a gun. Sorry, but I must disclose I do have "limits". As a self professed and proud 'sadist', I wouldn't put anyone through what those woman experience when they are cut.

Now, as beth points out and asks out loud every time it comes on, thinking that the Hi-Def TV includes a commentator response function; "If looks and/or size DOESN'T matter why are ALL the woman involved BBW?" It would be like having a show saying cock size doesn't matter as long as all the contestants were over 10 inches. But that doesn't represents the topic.

Whenever people ask what's the key to long term, or even short term, relationships our answer is one word - FUN. The last few posts in the Olympics thread raised the real possibility that some people take those games, themselves, and perhaps life in general, too seriously. Sure, I've read stories where 'slaves' were punished for failing to 'win' on behalf of their Master/Dom, but other than a rare case when something like that was included in a 'scene', I've never seen it in real life and never have seen it at any of the 'games' I've attended.

Wow - four paragraphs to get to the point! If anyone is still reading, beth and I amused ourselves this morning suggesting potential 'lifestyle' reality shows. We came up with the following:

So you think you can Flog? Skilled contestants perform flogging routines judged by the a panel of 'experts'.

So you think you can Top? Dominants are secluded in a house for a weekend. During that time, they interact. Whichever Top gets the most done for him/her during the weekend by the others wins. Things like getting someone to respond to; "can you please pass the salt?" score points.

So you think you're a slave? submissives, vie for the attention of a Master looking for a slave. The 'winner' getting collared. Will any qualify?

Of course, it got a little raw at the end....

So you think you're a cock sucker?
So you think you can take a strap-on?
So you think you're a slut?

Any others?

There is so much BS and issues in life that we all have to deal with on a daily basis. Working at a relationship shouldn't add to them. Lighten up people, at least with each other. Have fun, get messy, enjoy each other to the fullest. Expose yourself, physically if in an appropriate setting, but mentally and emotionally all the time to your partner and friends. Winning, outside of the professional ranks, is defined by participating.

Today, you have one day less less in your life that you had yesterday to enjoy. What are you doing today to insure that tomorrow you are not regretting what you didn't do yesterday?

I now don't have any idea how this topic, originally about TV reality shows, got to this point.

In summary...HAVE FUN!

We sure as hell do.
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RE: "So you think you can..." - 9/2/2009 10:40:49 AM   
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Status: offline 		first, that show sounds like the height of degradation...but then that seems to be the point with most of those "reality" shows. and who knows, maybe 15 seconds of semi-fame is worth stuffing yourself with deep friend twinkies before your loved ones and all of america? lol.

as for the fun thing...well Daddy and i would probably be among those who folks like you Merc would say take everything way too seriously. our life together, our relationship, the power dynamic we share...it does not revolve around fun. fun is absolutely necessary at some point...just for health and sanity...but for the appropriate time and place. saturday night we went out to a late night horror movie...that was about fun, pure fun, nothing more than fun. and it was! we laughed like crazy, had a great time. but when we get home and he tells me to remove panties, get to my knees and take care of his cock...the last thing on his mind or mine would be whether or not i have "fun" doing so. it is a service like everything else, one of my many duties as his property, and i take it as such.

we don't do a lot of stuff i read about on the boards here. we don't scene, we don't "play," our lives do not revolve around the erotic, and the erotic part of our lives have nothing to do with mutual pleasure/enjoyment/fun. that is not a life either of us would want. years ago on another lifestyle message board there was a discussion about "whimsicle dominations"...orders given for no particular reason other than to be silly and have fun. things like squawk like a chicken, hop on one leg reciting shakespeare, call the Master funny long titles, you get the idea. some were delighted by the concept and eager to suggest games and more and more whimisical "commands." and then were a few submissives who expressed that they could not handle such a thing, as they would take any desire/whim/command of their Master absolutely seriously, and would find nothing fun or funny about it. i fall into that latter group. i like to have fun from time to time, but i am serious about service.

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RE: "So you think you can..." - 9/2/2009 10:48:33 AM   
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Status: offline 		My response will probably be a lot different from most other people. It's also the reason I didn't respond in the slave olympics thread. To put it simply, I hate competing. I really do. It's not that I hate losing because when I've had to compete, I'm a pretty solid competitor, but I hate the idea of having to do something for the sake of winning.

Years back, I was at a slave retreat with a bunch of femdoms and male slaves. One of the events they put together was a, yep, you guessed it, a slave olympics. The women loved it, and it was great fun for them. I participated because it was part of the event, but I did it with the thought that my mistress was enjoying it, so I would try to enjoy it with that in mind. But it was so hard to concentrate that way because too many people were way too into the concept of winning that it was actually making me sick.

Anyway, that's not the main reason I responded, but to comment on the latter part of your post, which asked what would be great bits, like best whatevers, like best slave, and all that. I think if that I was ever entered in a Who's The Best Slave contest, or some reality show, I'd bow out really fast in the competition. I'm a slave because I am most comfortable being a submissive and a slave. To serve means something to me. Almost every reality show I've seen is filled with such fake people who are playing to an audience in hopes of winning. I've seen shows where women are trying to "marry" the rich millionaire, only to reveal after it is all over that they were only interested in winning the big cash prize at the end, and didn't care one iota about the guy they were trying to woo. Reality shows tend to show me the worst part of people, and I'd never want to be a part of that atmosphere. I know I wouldn't do well in it.

But back to what I was trying to say: I know that when I'm serving a woman, I do so with the sole perspective of being the best slave that I can be. I don't purport to be better than I am, nor do I claim to be better than anyone else. I just try to be the best that I can be. But it's not like tennis or baseball where you are playing against someone. It's a lifestyle where you are trying to be the best slave you can be. To "lose" to someone would be completely deflating, indicating that perhaps I'm not as good a slave as I ever wanted to be, that somehow I'm a failure at being a slave rather than not being as good as someone else. I'd never want to be in that type of situation. To me, that would dirty the whole exercise of being a submissive to me and make me start to feel that it's just a game, never meant to be taken seriously.

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RE: "So you think you can..." - 9/2/2009 10:53:43 AM   
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as for the fun thing...well Daddy and i would probably be among those who folks like you Merc would say take everything way too seriously. our life together, our relationship, the power dynamic we share...it does not revolve around fun. fun is absolutely necessary at some point...just for health and sanity...but for the appropriate time and place. but when we get home and he tells me to remove panties, get to my knees and take care of his cock...the last thing on his mind or mine would be whether or not i have "fun" doing so.

Well, prop, we have the same kind of 'fun' pretty regularly.

Never wanted to indicate that your relationship dynamic shouldn't be serious, structured, and respectful. My opinion, based upon reading your posts, if there is any distinction between us, its that my respect for beth is equal to hers of me. If that's true with you, it doesn't come across in your posts, and I apologize for my false perspective. Not that it is necessary or required, or qualifies the relationship as "good/bad", or abusive, in a Master/slave dynamic; but in our case mutual respect is a major part of our dynamic.

So far, non of our 'games' have included "squawking like a chicken" or any of those other things you mention; however if they did and either of us participated, it would not be the catalyst for changing the respect, and admiration we have for each other.

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RE: "So you think you can..." - 9/2/2009 11:11:10 AM   
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as for the fun thing...well Daddy and i would probably be among those who folks like you Merc would say take everything way too seriously. our life together, our relationship, the power dynamic we share...it does not revolve around fun. fun is absolutely necessary at some point...just for health and sanity...but for the appropriate time and place. but when we get home and he tells me to remove panties, get to my knees and take care of his cock...the last thing on his mind or mine would be whether or not i have "fun" doing so.

Well, prop, we have the same kind of 'fun' pretty regularly.

Never wanted to indicate that your relationship dynamic shouldn't be serious, structured, and respectful. My opinion, based upon reading your posts, if there is any distinction between us, its that my respect for beth is equal to hers of me. If that's true with you, it doesn't come across in your posts, and I apologize for my false perspective. Not that it is necessary or required, or qualifies the relationship as "good/bad", or abusive, in a Master/slave dynamic; but in our case mutual respect is a major part of our dynamic.

So far, non of our 'games' have included "squawking like a chicken" or any of those other things you mention; however if they did and either of us participated, it would not be the catalyst for changing the respect, and admiration we have for each other.


hi Merc. mutual respect does exist between my Master and i...does he respect me exactly as much as i respect him? i have no earthly idea, have never measured it or thought of it honestly. but he does respect and admire me very much (and shows it), far more than i feel i deserve.

now what all that has to do with having "fun"...i'm not exactly sure. from my limited observations, the primary difference between your relationship with beth and mine with my Master, is the "fun" aspect and the fact that mutual pleasure and enjoyment of most of the things you do together is very important in your dynamic. whether it's beth being ever-aroused, your mutual enjoyment of bdsm activities, or attending a lifestyle-related street fair...fun and good times are obviously a very big part of your lives together as well as the M/s union you share. that is not the case in this household, and respect has nothing to do with it. Daddy is just not wired that way, and i am just not wired that way. He's built to command and use, i'm built to obey and serve....not because we necessarily enjoy it, but because we just plain don't function any other way. to be with a man who focused at all on mutual pleasure/fun would make me really anxious and overstressed.


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RE: "So you think you can..." - 9/2/2009 11:13:46 AM   
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ORIGINAL: littlesarbonn
To "lose" to someone would be completely deflating, indicating that perhaps I'm not as good a slave as I ever wanted to be, that somehow I'm a failure at being a slave rather than not being as good as someone else. I'd never want to be in that type of situation. To me, that would dirty the whole exercise of being a submissive to me and make me start to feel that it's just a game, never meant to be taken seriously.


you are not the only submissive who would be effected in such a way, littlesarbonn.

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RE: "So you think you can..." - 9/2/2009 11:26:31 AM   
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Status: offline 		I am not into reality TV, I avoid them as much as possible. I am usually on the computer, playing Mah-jong (zen bones) or some other computer game. That is, when I am not on CM.

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RE: "So you think you can..." - 9/2/2009 11:35:12 AM   
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to be with a man who focused at all on mutual pleasure/fun would make me really anxious and overstressed.
You'd be surprised how much of what is perceived as "mutual pleasure/fun" is primarily my personal pleasure and fun.

One aspect of beth that you may not have considered, is that her prime motivating factor, call it 'fun' is pleasing me. her "fun" is my pleasure. What we enjoy mutually is coincidental - happy so. I sure as hell don't consider NOT spanking her, whipping her, flogging her, or clamping her tits, just because she may happen to find those activities 'fun' or derive some pleasure from them.

The things I ask her to do, giving her options - she HATES when that happens. The things I tell her to do are not subject to options. I know she'd represent she prefers being told versus asked and wish it would occur much more than it does.

I'm happy you didn't take the respect comment as an insult. I have great respect for the relationship you represent on these boards, but not having the opportunity to see your Master post, I had no way of knowing. If we make up a list of people we haven't met who we know from CM posts, you and your Master would be high up on it. I should have considered, anyone who a slave such as yourself would appreciate and respect, if nothing else, the slave's uniqueness, value, and pleasure she brings to his life. Yes - you DO deserve it!

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RE: "So you think you can..." - 9/2/2009 11:36:58 AM   
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better yet - we have a reality tv show here called 'Im a Celebrity Get me out of here' - theyre plonked in the middle of some rain forest and put through a variety of disgusting, awful, horrible tasks and the one who survives with a smile and some aplomb wins the show.

so:  'im a vanilla get me out of here' would be an amusing take on that and maybe finally we might come up with a clear line between where vanilla ends and BDSM begins - or not, who knows 

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RE: "So you think you can..." - 9/2/2009 1:23:22 PM   
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Status: offline 		To get an understanding of Merc and beth you really need to see them together. Even this post does not do justice to the type of relatioship that they have.

They are in perfect balance at least of what I have seen from them. There really are no Expectations, and I am sure I need to explain that.

For whatever their relationship was in the very beginning I cannot say but as it stands now, there are no "Orders" given, no force, in short they are nearly the perfect example of what defines a relationship free of a power struggle.

beth WANTS to do everything that she can to make his life easier, she does not need to be requested to do so she looks for what it is. Perhaps the only expectation that Merc might have is that beth do her best. Even at that one cannot really call it an expectation ..... it just IS how it IS.

They truely have FUN, in fact mush of their life revolves around the idea of having FUN and doing what is FUN. In most ways at least what I see and what most who have met them agree with the whole partnership is nearly effortless.

So on Topic as for what Kind of LIfestyle "Game Show" or "Reality TV Show I would like to see.... I guess I would have to say.......

Mystery Mate.

Like Mystery Date and Love Connection Combined only the Picker (Dom or sub) gets to choose from 3 Potential Partners, Based only on the questions they ask.

"Mate Number 1, If we were at a dungeon and I was afraid to be tied to the St Andrews Cross, what would you do to put my mind at ease?"

"Well girl, first I would grab you by your hair and drag your happy ass to the Cross and tell you to Suck it up and quit your whining, then I would Shove a WHOLE CHICKEN Up you ass and bring out the 12' Bull whip and Show you exactly how much you should fear ........ wait...... I think I misunderstood the question"

"Mate Number 2, If you were at the same play party and you saw Mate Number 1 getting warmed up what would you do?"

"Well, I've been a DM for 17 Years, Both in D&D and in On-Line Chat Rooms, I would Find the OP and have his IP Banned from the Server...... Oh this is REAL, HOLY SHIT, You Fuckers Do this for Real? SICK BASTERDS!!!!"

You get the Idea. I think it would funny as hell.

How about the Newly Collared Game.

Three Newly Collared slaves and thier Masters see how well the really know each other. The Key to Winning is always answering... "What ever Master wants" The game would get boring eventually but I am sure they would eventually have someone dumb enough to actually try and answer the questions.

I wonder how many collars would be pulled after a show like that?

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RE: "So you think you can..." - 9/2/2009 3:45:48 PM   
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Today, you have one day less less in your life that you had yesterday to enjoy. What are you doing today to insure that tomorrow you are not regretting what you didn't do yesterday?


Trying not to get sucked into the "make every day count" whirlpool where every day becomes a yardstick.


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RE: "So you think you can..." - 9/2/2009 4:13:58 PM   
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So you think you can take a strap-on?


this is one Olympic event I want to attend!

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RE: "So you think you can..." - 9/2/2009 4:20:21 PM   
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So you think you're a cock sucker?



Just one question....if I have no contenders, do I win be default or do I still have to prove my skills???   rofl


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RE: "So you think you can..." - 9/2/2009 4:40:28 PM   
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Status: offline 		somehow ... Reality and TV together just don't seem to make alot of sense to me... I never saw the connection... nor have I found it all that entertaining... pathetic in most cases.

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RE: "So you think you can..." - 9/2/2009 4:45:27 PM   
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RE: "So you think you can..." - 9/2/2009 4:51:06 PM   
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RE: "So you think you can..." - 9/2/2009 5:10:32 PM   
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Depends on what my position is...

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RE: "So you think you can..." - 9/2/2009 5:20:27 PM   
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RE: "So you think you can..." - 9/2/2009 5:46:16 PM   
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RE: "So you think you can..." - 9/2/2009 5:49:22 PM   
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