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Aswad -> RE: Your opinion about breath control (9/5/2009 5:24:35 PM)
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ORIGINAL: MissDita
Thanks Aswad, I didn't know that. Very useful information.
You're welcome, of course. It's worth what you paid for it, though, so double-check it with your doc before basing anything on it. I have been wrong in the past.
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ORIGINAL: RavenMuse
Probably the safest method is what is known as rebreathing.
Significantly safer, but I would prefer the mask approach myself. Barring that, an up to date diving first aid course and suitable CPR gear is a definite plus. Ventilators are pretty inexpensive, and cardiac compression units are dropping in price (not the same as defib gear). From what you describe, oxygen deprivation is part of the goal, since the alternative is to breathe twice as fast as normal, without temporarily witholding air. Hence the gear. Not the cheapest, certainly, but as we say in the laser hobby: if you can afford to do it, you can afford certified goggles (i.e. if goggles break the budget, you don't have the budget to do it safely). That's "just" eyes, though.
Incidentally, fluid bonding isn't the only thing to be aware of when rebreathing
If one of you has, or has had, significant pulmonary issues, like asthma, tuberculosis, recurring bronchitis and so forth, or one of you has a compromised immune system, then there is also the real possibiltiy of transmitting A. fumigans spores, which can colonize the lung in people who for one of the aforementioned reasons has "room to spare" in their lugs. By breathing in through her mouth, you are effectively bypassing most of the filters that reduce the number of spores making it to the lungs. Most of us inhale a few hundred of them every day, but generally through the nose, and those aren't fresh out of a suitable habitat (which means lungs and mouth, in this case).
Aspergilloma is usually asymptomatic, but can cause long term problems.
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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer
I think you're right when you say ' very few people can convincingly fake putting one in real danger'.
Yeah, you see this when training Czech wolfdogs (the dog breed, not actual hybrids) for body guarding and the like. A mock assailant closes on them with a knife, and they'll just sit there, head tilted, tongue lolling and tail wagging, or they'll come up to the mock assailant to play. Simply put, they sense that there is no intent to do harm. However, if you close on them (or a member of their family unit) with the intent to do harm, they go for the neck and hamstring right away. Brilliant pet for high risk kids, too.
Humans have the same sense, but most of us are too civilized and too used to a comfortable, safe life to trust it.
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That would be downright satanic! But . . . you've spilled the beans now, and I'll know what's going on should the same trick be tried on me. This was why I was recommending a 'pool of fear-inducing tricks' shared privately amongst dominants.
As Venatrix pointed out, it's not at all the same thing to know as to experience. Think back to other first experiences, and you'll prolly find that you had a lot of ideas about what they would be like beforehand. And, most likely, a lot of them turned out very differently. No less so with fear based mind games. That is even a part of actual interrogation, at least if you're "keeping the gloves on," so to speak: sensory deprivation, confusion, immediacy, etc., all conspire to convince.
Still, keeping it private helps avoid recognition, yes.
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ORIGINAL: Venatrix
Which is why mindfucks can be so much fun.
And also why they can be dangerous.
As you say, rational thought goes out the window.
Health,
al-Aswad.
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