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RE: "Truther" in the White House? - 9/4/2009 10:34:41 PM   
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He said the pennsylvania site... im assuming the Flight 93 one?

Oh you're right, sorry ...I don't know why my mind jumped to the Pentagon.

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RE: "Truther" in the White House? - 9/4/2009 10:46:53 PM   
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RE: "Truther" in the White House? - 9/4/2009 10:48:49 PM   
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RE: "Truther" in the White House? - 9/4/2009 10:53:06 PM   
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RE: "Truther" in the White House? - 9/4/2009 11:01:45 PM   
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I believe Popular Mechanics already put the kibosh on these 9/11 conspiricy theroies.

Yeah, I think they've been mostly addressed. I'm not 100% sure we know the whole story, but when do we ever?

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RE: "Truther" in the White House? - 9/4/2009 11:07:20 PM   
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Yeah, I think they've been mostly addressed. I'm not 100% sure we know the whole story, but when do we ever?


We may not know the whole story but we know enough. 9/11 was caused by pissed off Muslims flying planes into buildings. There simply is no credible evidence to show otherwise. Some people, of course, will never be convinced. It just had to be an inside job - their warped little world just doesn't make sense otherwise.


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RE: "Truther" in the White House? - 9/5/2009 5:36:29 AM   
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Status: offline 		The whole story... we will never know. the idea that some people can still parade around and say it was all a hoax... now that's just stupid. Its like saying the civil war was simply a street fight between two men... and no one really got hurt.

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RE: "Truther" in the White House? - 9/5/2009 6:47:12 AM   
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The whole story... we will never know. the idea that some people can still parade around and say it was all a hoax... now that's just stupid. Its like saying the civil war was simply a street fight between two men... and no one really got hurt.


okay okay.  They *might* have used sticks.  But nobody can prove they actually got hurt. 

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RE: "Truther" in the White House? - 9/5/2009 6:55:58 AM   
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knew someone would post something like that! thanks! needed the laugh this morning!

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RE: "Truther" in the White House? - 9/5/2009 9:21:59 AM   
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(Video) - Van Jones: Only ‘Suburban White Kids’ Shoot Up Schools:

http://www.breitbart.tv/van-jones-only-suburbal-white-kids-shoot-up-schools/


If you ever wonder if there really is a media bias, our 9/11 Truther (Van Jones) is a perfect case study to help you decide.

The media reaction when  a Democrat "Truther" says something like that:

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Total words about the Van Jones controversy in the New York Times: 0.
Total words about the Van Jones controversy in the Washington Post: 0.
Total words about the Van Jones controversy on NBC Nightly News: 0.
Total words about the Van Jones controversy on ABC World News: 0.
Total words about the Van Jones controversy on CBS Evening News: 0.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/blogs/beltway-confidential/The-Van-Jones-non-feeding-non-frenzy-57271402.html


Now, imagine the shit storm we would have seen if a Bush advisor or even a Republican Congressman or Governor (who was some kind of a conspiracy nut) had said something similar about black kids, or anything else similarly controversial.




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RE: "Truther" in the White House? - 9/5/2009 9:36:05 AM   
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(Video) - Van Jones: Only ‘Suburban White Kids’ Shoot Up Schools:

http://www.breitbart.tv/van-jones-only-suburbal-white-kids-shoot-up-schools/


If you ever wonder if there really is a media bias, our 9/11 Truther (Van Jones) is a perfect case study to help you decide.

The media reaction when  a Democrat "Truther" says something like that:

quote:

Total words about the Van Jones controversy in the New York Times: 0.
Total words about the Van Jones controversy in the Washington Post: 0.
Total words about the Van Jones controversy on NBC Nightly News: 0.
Total words about the Van Jones controversy on ABC World News: 0.
Total words about the Van Jones controversy on CBS Evening News: 0.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/blogs/beltway-confidential/The-Van-Jones-non-feeding-non-frenzy-57271402.html


Now, imagine the shit storm we would have seen if a Bush advisor or even a Republican Congressman or Governor (who was some kind of a conspiracy nut) had said something similar about black kids, or anything else similarly controversial.





Or imagine what you would be saying right now if 9/11 had happened during Clinton's administration and a Republican was making these ridiculous claims.

You are already promoting a media conspiracy theory right here.






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RE: "Truther" in the White House? - 9/5/2009 9:42:44 AM   
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Status: offline 		What is it with people and the communist label?

The Red Scarce, the McCarthyism, now Terrorists (who aren't new at all)--this insanity, this excuse for reaction just won't die, no matter how silly the previous episodes turn out to be. This nuttiness got us into three years of marching back and forth across the 38th parallel in Korea, ending exactly where we started. This myopia got is into the ridiculous mess of Vietnam, accomplishing nothing. We quadrupled our national debt in the 80s outspending a Soviet Union that would fall under its own structural problems anyway in 1991. The Chinese are now our largest trading partner--and the largest holders of our debt. And now we'll be in Iraq and Afghanistan forever and a day, spending away dollars and lives to accomplish...what exactly?

This silly label has been stretched so wide that surely it must offend actual communists. It's an excuse for a non-argument.

So let's just say for argument's sake that yes indeed, Obama is a communist. There. Done.

Now what? What difference does it make?

Oh yeah. None. New label, same day.

Or wasn't he supposed to be a Muslim plant? Or was that Tuesdays and Thursdays? It's getting hard to keep track. Wednesdays and Saturdays he's not really a citizen, right? Or is that Sundays?

It just doesn't matter. The same people will hate whatever he does no matter what. May as well be for communism.


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RE: "Truther" in the White House? - 9/5/2009 9:45:08 AM   
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This scumbag refuses to explain why he signed the "911 Truth Statement".



From your link:


UPDATE: It's worth pointing out that Ben Smith at Politico has spoken to two signatories of that petition, Rabbi Michael Lerner and historian Howard Zinn, who say they were misled about what they were signing.


And the conservative website Little Green Footballs points out that Rachel Ehrenfeld, author of “Funding Evil; How Terrorism is Financed and How to Stop It" has posted on her website, the American Center for Democracy: "PLEASE NOTE: Dr. Rachel Ehrenfeld is not a signatory of the 911Truth.org. She has asked several times to have her named removed from the list, but the organization failed to comply."

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RE: "Truther" in the White House? - 9/5/2009 9:57:50 AM   
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If none of this means anything to you, why do you bother to comment?

Why are you trying to switch the concept of terrorist with that of communist?  It just sounds cool to do it?

So you seriously don't give a shit about the hundreds of millions of people executed in the last century for thier beliefs?  Why would anyone oppose that?  Why would anyone want to have stopped the expansion of N Korea?  Are you pretending China is the same as it was under Mao?  Thats just dumb.


Maybe some of the slower posters will fall for the rhetorical trick of trying to alter my argument, so you can attack it.  I didn't call Obama a "Communist".   

Someone stupid and anti American enough to sign the truther document is in a high level of our Government.

Someone who helped form a Marxist Lenninist (not Communist ML is a very narrow paticular subset of "Communism" a bloodthirsty violent totalitarian subset)  Revolutionary group is working in a high level of our Government.

I have a problem with that, and want to comment on it.   You don't like that.  Too bad.





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RE: "Truther" in the White House? - 9/5/2009 10:03:04 AM   
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A truther on top of being a communist (cofounded a group called Standing Together to Organize a Revolutionary Movement, or STORM, rooted in Marxism and Leninsm.)    Is it ok to call someone who founded a group based on Marxisst Lennism a communnist?  It seems descriptive at that point.


To help your memory.


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RE: "Truther" in the White House? - 9/5/2009 10:04:50 AM   
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Status: offline 		RML, where did he explain or apologize?  Where in what you posted?   

I have no doubt that Zinn is stupid and reflexsivly anti American enough to have fallen for it.  Zinn is a loud, proud Marxist.  Believe me, if Howard Zinn was appointed to a high level Gov position, I would be making noise about it.  Don't know who the others you cite are, or what thier relevance is.

They are not serving high in the Federal Government.  Zinn can believe any stupid thing he wants. But the claims of the truthers were ludicris on the face of it.  And any one dim enough to not have immediatly noticed, should not be in Gov at a level above garbage man.

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RE: "Truther" in the White House? - 9/5/2009 10:06:41 AM   
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RE: "Truther" in the White House? - 9/5/2009 10:07:02 AM   
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I didn't call Obama a "Communist".

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RE: "Truther" in the White House? - 9/5/2009 10:08:01 AM   
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Status: offline 		So you think what you just quoted is about Obama?   That explains your confusion.....

Hey, we all sometimes misread things, no harm done.  IF you want to retract your previous nonsense based on being confused as to who I was refering in the OP, I won't hold it against you.

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RE: "Truther" in the White House? - 9/5/2009 10:08:52 AM   
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