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IronBear -> RE: Oral Sex - A Submissive Act? (2/28/2006 12:41:34 AM)

If the Lady was a Gorean Free Woman, and she did this where she could be seen by others, she would be in breach of the Gorean Couching Laws and be eligable for an exquisit piece of Gorean steel neck jewelery to adorn her neck declaring her new status........ Other than that I'd see it as a Domme taking her pleasure as she wishes...... and more power to her for doing so.




RavenMuse -> RE: Oral Sex - A Submissive Act? (2/28/2006 1:07:45 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Driver1961
What if the 'Precious' Lady sits astride Her One's face (whilst He is laying prone) and thrusts herself to His face. This act to an observer is aggressive and in no way does the sub appear to be acting submissively. Is she acting submissively?


Did he order her to do so because he finds the position comfortable whilst enjoying her?

If my girl did such with me without my direction then she'd be doing so with a cheeky playful grin knowing that she was pushing the bounderys a little and what happened next would be totaly dependent on my mood at the time. Anything from holding her hips in place and enjoying her, or flipping her over and 'reminding' her who is in charge by equaly playfully tanning her hide. IMO she is still submissive, even when she is being playful (I like playful occassionaly [:D]), the dynamic is still in place.

If however I thought it was done in a defiant (Non-submissive) manner then there would be nothing playful about my reaction! But somehow I can't envisage that ever happening[;)]




MHOO314 -> RE: Oral Sex - A Submissive Act? (2/28/2006 4:33:51 AM)


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ORIGINAL: kyraofMists

I am interested in other people's opinions on this question. Is oral sex a submissive act?

So what are other people's thoughts on this?


Knight's kyra



he is My toy, to be taken and used as I see fit---for My pleasure. however that pleasure exhibits itself--and I can assure you when he is chained and gagged and I am playing with sadistic delight or I have his hair firmly in My hands, directing him--there is only one submissive and it isn't Me!




Submotive -> RE: Oral Sex - A Submissive Act? (2/28/2006 1:13:17 PM)

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he is My toy, to be taken and used as I see fit---for My pleasure. however that pleasure exhibits itself--and I can assure you when he is chained and gagged and I am playing with sadistic delight or I have his hair firmly in My hands, directing him--there is only one submissive and it isn't Me!


Again i can only say - oh my my my! How we subs love Your kind MH.

Like everything in D/s for me, oral sex is a matter of attitude. Is my promise to submit, is that my desire or not? That is my question. If my desire is to submit to Him, then anything i give or do for Him is an act of worship and service. He uses me How He enjoys and in that i find tremendous fulfillment.




MstrTiger -> RE: Oral Sex - A Submissive Act? (2/28/2006 1:32:47 PM)

I would not even consider giving my male slaves oral I hate doing it and I don’t think they would like me to do it to them.




swtnsparkling -> RE: Oral Sex - A Submissive Act? (2/28/2006 1:35:41 PM)

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If my desire is to submit to Him, then anything i give or do for Him is an act of worship and service.


I agree




MichMasochist -> RE: Oral Sex - A Submissive Act? (2/28/2006 4:13:45 PM)


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ORIGINAL: kyraofMists

It's Sunday morning and I am thinking about oral sex... *g*

I am interested in other people's opinions on this question. Is oral sex a submissive act?

For myself it is not at all. I do not "feel" submissive at all when I perform oral sex for my Lord. I love doing it and I feel powerful and in control. He is often non-verbal and lost in sensation and all because of me. It is a major turn-on! On the rare occasions that he performs oral sex on me, I in no way see that as a submissive act either. When a sadist has his teeth on my clit, I am quickly reminded of who is in control!


So what are other people's thoughts on this?


Knight's kyra



For myself it's all about the feeling, the mood, of the moment. Does she tell me to do it, or does she ask me? Does she push me to the ground, or bed and straddle me while grabbing a handfull of hair? Am I in bondage? Obviously the person on top is doing the riding. Obviously the person in bondage isn't in control, but bondage isn't needed to be incontrol.

Is oral sex a submissive act? Is giving a gift a submissive act? When my girlfriend allows me to dine on her delicious kitty my thoughts are of how wonderful she tastes and smells, the softness of her. My sole desire is to cause her climax. Reading this last line I realize that when my mistress commands me to do this. My motives are the same. In both cases I don't want to piss her off, or otherwise make her unhappy.





redheadedfire4u -> RE: Oral Sex - A Submissive Act? (3/1/2006 12:39:20 AM)

The "Precious" Lady is following direction (not just jumping on top lol) and also her One is just enjoying while she is doing all the work so to speak lol and she is also aware that her position is entirely subject to His permission and can be changed at any minute with no warning lol

definately submissive lady and one who she might add so enjoys the reward of this position

warm smiles to all




BitaTruble -> RE: Oral Sex - A Submissive Act? (3/1/2006 12:50:19 AM)

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What if the 'Precious' Lady sits astride Her One's face (whilst He is laying prone) and thrusts herself to His face. This act to an observer is aggressive and in no way does the sub appear to be acting submissively. Is she acting submissively?


Maybe it's just Himself and the way he thinks, but he would never put me into such a position astride him. I know this, because I asked him after I read this post. I'm rather grateful he feels this way because the idea of it makes me very uncomfortable.

Celeste




Bunkerchief -> RE: Oral Sex - A Submissive Act? (3/1/2006 1:18:13 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: kyraofMists

It's Sunday morning and I am thinking about oral sex... *g*

I am interested in other people's opinions on this question. Is oral sex a submissive act?

For myself it is not at all. I do not "feel" submissive at all when I perform oral sex for my Lord. I love doing it and I feel powerful and in control. He is often non-verbal and lost in sensation and all because of me. It is a major turn-on! On the rare occasions that he performs oral sex on me, I in no way see that as a submissive act either. When a sadist has his teeth on my clit, I am quickly reminded of who is in control!


So what are other people's thoughts on this?


Knight's kyra


Simply because the human anatomy is what it is means that sexual acts are inevitably same whether in BDSM play or vanilla so it all comes down to context, psychology and the nature of play.

I have a relationship with a woman who I met through my business. She lives 8,000 miles away from me so we only see each other three or four times a year, though for substantial amounts of time. When she performs oral sex on me it is very much in a submissive role because she only does it when I order her to do it or it is the context of a face fuck when she is in bondage.

Quite often when the mood is apparently none sexual I've ordered her to get on her knees with her hands behind her back and to stick out her tongue and I've simple laid my cock on her tongue and ordered her to hold that position. OK I find this a turn on as I watch her struggle and knowing she feels a sense of humiliation as she inevitably dribbles but I also know that this is a turn on for her. It's even more a turn on for her when I first put my cock on her tongue and it is slack and it grows hard on her tongue. I also know it is a frustration for her when I take the game no further and simply put my cock away and tell her we have work to do and to get off her knees as she looks foolish. This game playing turns her into a volcano that threatens to explode but I never allow her to cum until I've had my wicked way with her which could be the next day if we really do have so much work to do. Though I have to admit this is something of a sacrifice for myself but it keeps oral sex as a submissive act which is how I enjoy it most so I eventually do get my satisfaction as does she and she herself prefers it this way.





truesub4u -> RE: Oral Sex - A Submissive Act? (3/1/2006 10:16:05 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Bunkerchief


the mood is apparently none sexual I've ordered her to get on her knees with her hands behind her back and to stick out her tongue and I've simple laid my cock on her tongue and ordered her to hold that position. OK I find this a turn on as I watch her struggle and knowing she feels a sense of humiliation as she inevitably dribbles but I also know that this is a turn on for her. It's even more a turn on for her when I first put my cock on her tongue and it is slack and it grows hard on her tongue. I also know it is a frustration for her when I take the game no further and simply put my cock away and tell her we have work to do and to get off her knees as she looks foolish. This game playing turns her into a volcano that threatens to explode but I never allow her to cum until I've had my wicked way with her which could be the next day if we really do have so much work to do. Though I have to admit this is something of a sacrifice for myself but it keeps oral sex as a submissive act which is how I enjoy it most so I eventually do get my satisfaction as does she and she herself prefers it this way.





Damn and I got frustrated just reading this... LOL

(got to make sure Master doesn't read this post... LOL)





KnightofMists -> RE: Oral Sex - A Submissive Act? (3/1/2006 11:53:47 AM)


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ORIGINAL: truesub4u




Damn and I got frustrated just reading this... LOL

(got to make sure Master doesn't read this post... LOL)




ooooooooohhhhh so your hiding things from your Master tsk tsk tsk *G*




redheadedfire4u -> RE: Oral Sex - A Submissive Act? (3/2/2006 6:18:30 PM)

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ORIGINAL: truesub4u

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bunkerchief


the mood is apparently none sexual I've ordered her to get on her knees with her hands behind her back and to stick out her tongue and I've simple laid my cock on her tongue and ordered her to hold that position. OK I find this a turn on as I watch her struggle and knowing she feels a sense of humiliation as she inevitably dribbles but I also know that this is a turn on for her. It's even more a turn on for her when I first put my cock on her tongue and it is slack and it grows hard on her tongue. I also know it is a frustration for her when I take the game no further and simply put my cock away and tell her we have work to do and to get off her knees as she looks foolish. This game playing turns her into a volcano that threatens to explode but I never allow her to cum until I've had my wicked way with her which could be the next day if we really do have so much work to do. Though I have to admit this is something of a sacrifice for myself but it keeps oral sex as a submissive act which is how I enjoy it most so I eventually do get my satisfaction as does she and she herself prefers it this way.





Damn and I got frustrated just reading this... LOL

(got to make sure Master doesn't read this post... LOL)





eeeek!!!!!!!!!!!!!

OMG: that would kill me, can you die from fraustration? I think this little scenario would prove it one way or the other ... how does it go "what does not kill you only makes you stronger"?

sorry I just joined truesub4u's camp ... please if there is a god do not let Sir read this.


warm smiles to all




ownedgirlie -> RE: Oral Sex - A Submissive Act? (3/2/2006 8:30:37 PM)


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ORIGINAL: redheadedfire4u



eeeek!!!!!!!!!!!!!

OMG: that would kill me, can you die from fraustration? I think this little scenario would prove it one way or the other ... how does it go "what does not kill you only makes you stronger"?

sorry I just joined truesub4u's camp ... please if there is a god do not let Sir read this.


warm smiles to all


~ adds myself to the "distract-Master-from-the-Board" club.




truesub4u -> RE: Oral Sex - A Submissive Act? (3/2/2006 9:41:14 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: KnightofMists


quote:

ORIGINAL: truesub4u




Damn and I got frustrated just reading this... LOL

(got to make sure Master doesn't read this post... LOL)




ooooooooohhhhh so your hiding things from your Master tsk tsk tsk *G*



Not hiding....... distracting!!!!!!!

LMAO




Driver1961 -> RE: Oral Sex - A Submissive Act? (3/3/2006 3:02:58 AM)

He enters. dips His lid to all.......particularly K.O.M.

umm, tsk tsk, I like that, but what is that I spy 'on knees' in the corner?

Subbies with lips, open, tongue protruding and dribbling actual dribble?

Wild! (redheadedfire4u) Will you come here, kneel the fuxx down, shut the fuxx up, and hold that tongue out!

and NO DRIBBLING---------

8 hours later......... He thinks, " that may teach her to publicly declare her dribbling"

A laugh to all..................




Bunkerchief -> RE: Oral Sex - A Submissive Act? (3/3/2006 4:14:28 AM)

Hey! Glad to be of some service...well in a perverse way. Subs should be frurstrated, for at least a time, it makes them all the more pleasureable when they are allowed to vent their frustration in ways to please their dom and I'm sure they are always hiding something to deserve their frustration. I know my sub usually deserves it but hell, if she doesn't, I don't care. <evil grin>




kyraofMists -> RE: Oral Sex - A Submissive Act? (3/3/2006 4:29:22 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: KnightofMists


quote:

ORIGINAL: truesub4u
Damn and I got frustrated just reading this... LOL

(got to make sure Master doesn't read this post... LOL)




ooooooooohhhhh so your hiding things from your Master tsk tsk tsk *G*


I think that would be really hot! Of course anticipation is one thing that really turns me on, that and contrasts.... you know, the super soft slide of hand along flesh followed by a slap or punch.... off to work to think of wicked things *g*

kyra




IronBear -> RE: Oral Sex - A Submissive Act? (3/3/2006 5:11:35 AM)

“Oh give me a suck,
Where the jumbucks to fuck,
I need a head job five times a day.

Submit to me now,
You bloody great cow,
Or the bulls will take you away.”



I'm innocent 'tis the water,.................................




Facect -> RE: Oral Sex - A Submissive Act? (3/25/2006 4:50:36 PM)

Oral sex is a paradox, its both submissive and Dom in my view, At times I feel completely submission giving oral, especially under. A women grinding her on my face, mouth and tongue, she is in total control. But with her on her back, I am more in control even if I have to beg for her to let me eat her (which is a major turn on) my movements of the tongue, lips, nose, Humming, using fingers, icy hot, etc., that make me feel more in control. Either way I  love it.




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